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Ted Cruze is blaming Reid for holding the American People hostage

 
 
IRFRANK
 
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Reply Tue 15 Oct, 2013 06:00 pm
I wonder if this is how the Nazi's came to power?
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Tue 15 Oct, 2013 06:40 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

Then again, the Democrats can continue to refuse to compromise while holding the Republicans up to well deserved ridicule, and eventually destroy the idiot teabagger hold on Republican politics, which is only motivated by electoral fear.

Hi, Setanta.

For the Republicans to have refused to sign the budget unless ObamaCare was removed was an unpatriotic abuse of power, and they should never have done it. For them to refuse to sign the budget because they actually don't agree with what's in the budget, or some feature of what money is being spent on, is actually their proper role.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 15 Oct, 2013 06:48 pm
@IRFRANK,
Sounds a wee bit familiar. People are unhappy - they bring to power a nut with grandiose ideas, and the next thing you know, they kill off millions of people they believe are sub-humans. Yup, history repeats itself.
IRFRANK
 
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Reply Tue 15 Oct, 2013 07:03 pm
@cicerone imposter,
After I posted that, I went out and read a few history lessons. Now, I am even more concerned. Disrupt the government, then take control. Wonder if the TEA Party shirts will be brown? The next year is very important to America.
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Reply Tue 15 Oct, 2013 07:06 pm
@IRFRANK,
Quote:
I wonder if this is how the Nazi's came to power?



Bingo! I take a look at Ted Cruz and think "here is a 2013 up-and-coming Hilter" and his ilk with Mike Lee as his Goebbels, minister of propaganda during the Nazi era. This latest development by John Boehner to withdraw his plan to avoid the Debit default was/is a crushing blow. The Ted Cruz faction makes one believe this was the Tea Party's intent all along, to destroy the current government or bring it to its knees.
Kolyo
 
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Reply Tue 15 Oct, 2013 07:26 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
Moment-in-Time wrote:

The Ted Cruz faction makes one believe this was the Tea Party's intent all along, to destroy the current government or bring it to its knees.


Why else would their Fox News allies be calling the government shutdown a "slimdown". "Slimdown" has a positive ring to it, no?

Why else would they advocate reopening parts of government?

My take on the GOP's recent actions is that they are a deliberate attempt to knock huge chunks of government without ever having been given a mandate to do so.

Also, they don't want us running deficits. What better way to prevent deficits than by completely destroying our credit rating (through a default)?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 15 Oct, 2013 07:28 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
It's quite easy to imagine Ted Cruz with a Hitler mustache and saluting "heil," and the Tea Party following with more "heils."

They may start with our black president who's not Aryan or of 'pure' race.
IRFRANK
 
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Reply Tue 15 Oct, 2013 07:40 pm
@cicerone imposter,
The recent flag waving demonstration at the vets memorial. The secret meeting with the Tea party, leaving out Boehner. I hope this doesn't steamroll. The upcoming election for governor in VA and the senate race in NJ is important.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 15 Oct, 2013 07:49 pm
@IRFRANK,
They have the gall to demonstrate in front of the vets memorial when they're the ones responsible for its closing. That's too simple a relevance issue for the republicans who run at the mouth while they're the ones holding our government hostage; ALL public parks are closed.

TNCFS
IRFRANK
 
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Reply Tue 15 Oct, 2013 08:22 pm
@cicerone imposter,
The truth of any of this doesn't matter. They stir up the faithful. There are many Americans who are fed up with govt, even though we have such a high standard of living. All this rhetoric supports their anger. They can easily find others to blame, other ethnic groups, the poor, liberals. It is disturbing. Nationalism, readily available scapegoats, an unsettled govt.. Promise them lower taxes.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 15 Oct, 2013 08:43 pm
@IRFRANK,
we have "such a high standard of living"? lets see, we have a third world passenger rail system, bridges that fall down while in use, water mains that break, broken justice/education/government/medical systems, high getting higher poverty rate.....where is this high standard of living of which you speak? with in three days of getting off the plane in Munich I was amazed at how much better the germans lived than we did, and this was back when America was the one and only superpower, back before the **** really began to hit the fan in America.

you are blind man, the entire society is becoming unglued, non functioning government is one part of the iceberg only.
IRFRANK
 
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Reply Tue 15 Oct, 2013 09:34 pm
@hawkeye10,
I don't have to go out and look for food every day. The grocery store is full. I have a car and a truck. I can afford gas. I can watch HD TV every night. Yes, it's been better. I can see that things are tougher for younger people. I would agree that many of the things you mentioned are broke. And, currently I am very concerned about the govt. But they are fighting over the wrong things. Things can get much worse. The TEA party is not the answer. Divisive politics is the problem.
Moment-in-Time
 
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Reply Wed 16 Oct, 2013 10:04 am
@IRFRANK,
Quote:
The TEA party is not the answer. Divisive politics is the problem.


Houston newspaper regrets support for Ted Cruz
ON POLITICS
Catalina Camia, USA TODAY 10:10 a.m. EDT October 16, 2013
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Look like the loudmouth Texan Senator, Ted Cruz, is getting some push-back from his home state for contributing to the "chaotic, hyper-partisan atmosphere" in Washington. Oh yes, there are regrets!!!!!
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/onpolitics/2013/10/16/ted-cruz-houston-chronicle-regret-endorsement/2992953/

Talk about regrets. Sen. Ted Cruz's hometown newspaper in Texas is now voicing its disappointment about endorsing the Republican for U.S. Senate.

The Houston Chronicle pays tribute to Cruz's predecessor, Kay Bailey Hutchison, in an editorial that takes him to task for contributing to the "chaotic, hyper-partisan atmosphere" in Washington. The headline: "Why we miss Kay Bailey Hutchison."

Hutchison decided not to run for re-election last year, after 20 years in the Senate, and was known for her staunch advocacy for all things Texas. The Republican also, as the editorial notes, was known for "reaching across the aisle when necessary."

"When we endorsed Ted Cruz in last November's general election, we did so with many reservations and at least one specific recommendation — that he follow Hutchison's example in his conduct as a senator," the Houston Chronicle editorial says. "Obviously, he has not done so. Cruz has been part of the problem in specific situations where Hutchison would have been part of the solution."

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 16 Oct, 2013 10:24 am
@Moment-in-Time,
in five years when he faces the voters again what the Houston Chronicle editorial board thinks might matter, but probably wont. this is assuming that it still exists by then, no sure thing.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 16 Oct, 2013 10:37 am
@Moment-in-Time,
Houston "now regrets" electing Cruz? I betcha dollars to donuts he gets reelected.

Even after Houston has lost much in the way of business and tax revenues.

They're all looneys!
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 16 Oct, 2013 10:51 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Houston "now regrets" electing Cruz? I betcha dollars to donuts he gets reelected.

Even after Houston has lost much in the way of business and tax revenues.

They're all looneys!

the texas econony is booming. you might at least attempt to make your arguments fact based.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Wed 16 Oct, 2013 10:58 am
@hawkeye10,
so the Senate is going to vote to end this skirmish and to set up to do it all over again in a couple of months. Joy.
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Moment-in-Time
 
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Reply Wed 16 Oct, 2013 03:31 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:

Houston "now regrets" electing Cruz? I betcha dollars to donuts he gets reelected.


Possibly....he might get reelected as senator, after all a senator serves 6 years and he was just elected 9 months to go. If he were to keep a low profile, then time might be the great healer for him. However, it wasn't easy sailing for him to get across the board elected in Texas; the Tea Party is his benefactor. There are people in Texas who would have been hurt terribly had there been a debt default....poor people and middle class....some were out of work because of the government shutdown. Some people only live from check to check, so if there had been a debt default, Cruz would have been blamed. We just barely missed the default, but there must have been many anxious people in Texas as around the US. The government shutdown hurt us economically and I think we just scarely missed a credit downgrade.

Cruz might have blown up his bridge when it comes to running for the US presidency and whether he's elected by the Tea Party again is up to them. Cruz might be too much of a liability at this time and in the future, i.e., too much negative baggage.
IRFRANK
 
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Reply Wed 16 Oct, 2013 03:39 pm
@Moment-in-Time,
A guy like Cruz will never be elected to the presidency. They can't gerrymander the district. The rest of the country is not Texas.
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 16 Oct, 2013 03:43 pm
@IRFRANK,
His filibuster at the beginning of this whole hoohaw was a planned entry for him. He wanted to introduce hisself to the electorate. I too think he got some really bad advice
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