I didn't believe the government would be shut down.

I think we're beginning to get an insight into Republican bargaining tactics.

But that's OK, McG. If you don't know what the GOP is willing to give up, I understand. After all, the GOP doesn't know what the GOP is willing to give up, so you're in good company.

As for what the Democrats are willing to give up, they haven't identified anything substantive. That's understandable, given that the Republicans haven't identified anything either. If I demanded that you give me $100, I imagine your response would be something along the lines of "go to hell." And if I then demanded that you give me $50 instead, I'm pretty confident you wouldn't interpret that as a compromise on my part.

McGentrix wrote:

What are the Democrats offering?

They don't need to offer anything. No compromise means that the will of some of the voters is honored, and that the Democratic platform becomes federal policy --- which is the natural baseline when Democrats win the presidency, keep the Senate, and win the popular vote for the House and use parlor tricks to pass bills.

I really hope Obama is secretly working on his executive order to print that trillion-dollar platinum coin.

So basically you're saying that the Democrats will not negotiate then?

You know which ACA I am referring to right? The immutable "law of the land" that keeps getting brought up. The one that has been changed 19 times since it became a law?

So basically you're saying that the Democrats will not negotiate then? You sure use a lot of unnecessary words to say such a simple thing. But, you harp on the Republicans for being unwilling to negotiate? I don't get it Joe. Why harp on one side when neither side are willing to negotiate? Reflex?

The Republicans have stated that they would like a 1 year extension for the general public from the ACA just like Big Business received from Obama.

You know which ACA I am referring to right? The immutable "law of the land" that keeps getting brought up. The one that has been changed 19 times since it became a law? I am sure you know the one I am referring to.

After those 2 "economic housekeeping items" are tended to, the Republicans have nothing left to barter with. The House controls spending and that is what they are doing. Blame the constitution for so many checks and balances.

For starters you're wrong. The organizer of Honor Flight spoke to a nameless bureaucrat in DC about their next scheduled flight and was told anyone crossing the barricades would be arrested.

Irrespective of anything one believes about the government "shutdown," barricading the WWII memorial was not an unavoidable consequence, it was mean-spirited, petty and spiteful, and it was, in a very warped way, intended to irk conservatives.

I fixed your statement for you Thomas to more accurately depict the situation.

And while a CNN/ORC International survey also indicates that slightly more people are angry at Republicans than Democrats or President Barack Obama for the shutdown, it is clear that both sides are taking a hit.

The poll, conducted over the weekend, was released on Monday, nearly one week into the partial shutdown over a push by tea party backed GOP lawmakers trying to dismantle or defund Obama's signature health care reform law.

According to the poll, 63% of those questioned say they are angry at the Republicans for the way they have handled the shutdown.

"But the Democrats are not getting off scot-free. Fifty-seven percent of Americans are also angry at the way the Democrats are dealing with the shutdown. And a 53% majority say they are also angry at President Obama," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "It looks like there is more than enough blame to go around and both parties are being hurt by the shutdown."

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And while a CNN/ORC International survey also indicates that slightly more people are angry at Republicans than Democrats or President Barack Obama for the shutdown, it is clear that both sides are taking a hit.

The poll, conducted over the weekend, was released on Monday, nearly one week into the partial shutdown over a push by tea party backed GOP lawmakers trying to dismantle or defund Obama's signature health care reform law.

According to the poll, 63% of those questioned say they are angry at the Republicans for the way they have handled the shutdown.

"But the Democrats are not getting off scot-free. Fifty-seven percent of Americans are also angry at the way the Democrats are dealing with the shutdown. And a 53% majority say they are also angry at President Obama," says CNN Polling Director Keating Holland. "It looks like there is more than enough blame to go around and both parties are being hurt by the shutdown."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/10/07/cnn-shutdown-poll-plenty-of-blame-to-go-around/?hpt=hp_t1

hawkeye10 called it right yet again, weeks ago. the polls three weeks ago had the R's blamed more by 15%, now we are down to 5%. Obama and the D's miscalculated thinking that they could not lift a finger to keep the nation out of crisis and then milk the situation politically, the American people are not so easy to manipulate anymore, many A2K'ers excepted.

Keep dreamin'!

The Republican shutdown will cost them dearly in the coming elections.

Once they get Obamacare and can see for themselves how the Republicans lied about it, there may not be many Republicans left.