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The moral differences between the holocaust and bombing Japan

 
 
oralloy
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 09:10 am
@JLNobody,
JLNobody wrote:
David is such a jerk.

I like him. Nice and logical.
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 09:21 am
http://www.nuclearcrimes.org/coomer.pdf

Carolyn Coomer
Medical Consequences of Nuclear War: Radiation
I was among the first few foreigners to reach the site of this historic bombing and
walked for nearly two hours today through streets where the stench of death still
pervades and survivors or relatives of the dead, wearing gauze patches over their
mouths, still probe among the ruins for bodies or possessions.
(Lawrence, “Visit to Hiroshima,” 1)
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 09:25 am
@Setanta,
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I have repeatedly pointed out that the United States used the atomic bomb because the Japanese would not surrender, and they needed to end that war, they wanted to end the madness.


That's not a lawful excuse to resort to war crimes. It is also a lie, but lies comes easy to a people who have lived horrible lies for their entire existence.

Quote:
i was pointing out your deep sorrow for the Japanese, but apparent indifference to what everyone around them suffered.


You really are an amazing hypocrite, Setanta.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 09:28 am
Could it be possible that I am the only one who thinks it is silly to suggest that true knowledge can only come from a book?

reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 09:47 am
What do you all think about some of our new weapons "depleted uranium"?

JTT
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 09:53 am
@Setanta,
Quote:
Snotty remarks about a "holy grail" doesn't alter the valid criticisms i've made of you. You're ignorant, and the very avatar of invincible ignorance. You think this is all some word game. You're scum.


And what of the valid criticisms of you, Set, that you are studiously avoiding? Speaking of "invincible ignorance", you excelled at that in the Peeves thread just as you are doing in this thread.

What of the lies that you are perpetuating?
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:06 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
With Nagasaki and the firebombing, the purpose was to destroy Japan's war industry.

Hiroshima was a strike directly at Japanese soldiers.


More Oralboy lies. These were racist strikes made by the US to make a political statement to the Russians.

I read that ground zero was centered on, if I remember correctly, the Shiina Hospital.
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:07 am
@oralloy,
More Oralboy lies. You are a congenital liar, lad.
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:09 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
I saw no lies in anything he wrote.


That's not at all surprising, Oralboy, considering what a renowned liar you are, what a gullible propaganda slurper you are.
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JTT
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:15 am
@OmSigDAVID,
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Do u think that any of the survivors of the Rape of Nanking of 1937
considered the Japs to be "innocent" ??


Do you think that any of the survivors of the Rape and Pillage of the Philippines in 1898 to this day considered Americans to be innocent?

Do you think that any of the survivors of the Rape and Pillage of Nicaragua in successive invasions to this day considered Americans to be innocent?

Do you think that any of the survivors of the attempted Rape and Pillage of Vietnam in successive invasions to this day considered Americans to be innocent?

Do you think that any of the survivors of the Rape and Pillage of [fill in any of the 200 illegal US invasions] to this day considered Americans to be innocent?
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neologist
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:49 am
Perhaps we should just check with the scorekeeper.
The total population of Hiroshima and Nagasaki before the bombing was 450,000 +/-
Approximately 200,000 were killed directly, but lets assume somehow the total death toll to be more than the total population, or 500,000, truly a devastating attack.

By contrast, the holocaust had approximately 6,000,000 victims. So, based on only the two events cited in the OP, the score:

Evil Nazi Holocaust 6,000,000
Evil USAAF A-Bomb 500,000

At worst, a 12 to 1 margin

To God, the death of even a single human is an abomination. He, also, is keeping score.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:52 am
@neologist,
Quote:
To God, the death of even a single human is an abomination. He, also, is keeping score.


What does he think about the trinity bomb? Do you think he wants the credit?
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 10:54 am
@neologist,
neologist wrote:


To God, the death of even a single human is an abomination. He, also, is keeping score.


Neo...since your god worked it out so that EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING will die...

...how can you come to the conclusion that the god thinks each death is an abomination?
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 11:03 am
@neologist,
Quote:
Perhaps we should just check with the scorekeeper.
The total population of Hiroshima and Nagasaki before the bombing was 450,000 +/-
Approximately 200,000 were killed directly, but lets assume somehow the total death toll to be more than the total population, or 500,000, truly a devastating attack.

By contrast, the holocaust had approximately 6,000,000 victims. So, based on only the two events cited in the OP, the score:

Evil Nazi Holocaust 6,000,000
Evil USAAF A-Bomb 500,000


A completely specious argument, Neo. Pointing to a crime of greater number doesn't in any fashion absolve others for their crimes.
JTT
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 11:04 am
@Frank Apisa,
Gee, you focused in on god awfully fast, Frank. How come you failed to address this?

"Evil USAAF A-Bomb 500,000"
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neologist
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 11:08 am
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
Neo...since your god worked it out so that EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING will die...

...how can you come to the conclusion that the god thinks each death is an abomination?
Not my God, but the god who first appeared in Genesis chapter 3.
neologist
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 11:10 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:
. . . .A completely specious argument, Neo. Pointing to a crime of greater number doesn't in any fashion absolve others for their crimes.
A completely supercilious response, JT, as that was not the intent of my post.
Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 11:13 am
@neologist,
neologist wrote:

Frank Apisa wrote:
Neo...since your god worked it out so that EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING will die...

...how can you come to the conclusion that the god thinks each death is an abomination?
Not my God, but the god who first appeared in Genesis chapter 3.


Perhaps you did not understand my question.

Since YOUR god (wherever that god came from) worked it out so that EVERY SINGLE HUMAN BEING will die...

...how can you come to the conclusion that the god thinks each death is an abomination?

neologist
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 11:14 am
@reasoning logic,
reasoning logic wrote:
. . . What does he think about the trinity bomb? Do you think he wants the credit?
Which god are you referring to?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Fri 9 Aug, 2013 11:14 am
@neologist,
Your God
 

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