Snowdon is a dummy

.where would you go if you could move where the government is so much better?

Frank said

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.where would you go if you could move where the government is so much better?

This is paraphrasing the love it or leave theme.

You say you aren't saying this, but you are.

This is dishonest on your part.

Where is it said that if I criticize my government I SHOULD leave my country?

That the citizens control government is a BS arguement and I had expected better of you.

This is nothing more than than the old, have you tasted a saltier dik than mine, question.

If you have to get into this calling me a liar nonsense...get into it. I will not engage in it with you.

Frank,

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If you have to get into this calling me a liar nonsense...get into it. I will not engage in it with you.

LMAO A cut and paste from Frank's post that proves he lied is "nonsense."

Not surprising.

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ci hates America...and should be man enough to just leave.

lie1 [lahy] Show IPA
noun
1.
a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood. Synonyms: prevarication, falsification. Antonyms: truth.
2.
something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.
3.
an inaccurate or false statement; a falsehood.
4.
the charge or accusation of telling a lie: He flung the lie back at his accusers.
verb (used without object), lied, ly·ing.
5.
to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive. Synonyms: prevaricate, fib.
6.
to express what is false; convey a false impression.

No; the proof was posted, and you can deny it till hell freezes over.

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lie1 [lahy] Show IPA
noun
1.
a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood. Synonyms: prevarication, falsification. Antonyms: truth.
2.
something intended or serving to convey a false impression; imposture: His flashy car was a lie that deceived no one.
3.
an inaccurate or false statement; a falsehood.
4.
the charge or accusation of telling a lie: He flung the lie back at his accusers.
verb (used without object), lied, ly·ing.
5.
to speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive. Synonyms: prevaricate, fib.
6.
to express what is false; convey a false impression.

Your lie about your lie only proves you cannot be trusted.

Frnak said
Huh???

A question that cant be reasonably answered which is what you are posing with your love it or leave it statement.

And your right about not having anymore to say. I will stay here and complain about my government and try to change it in spite of people like you who seem to think criticism is unamerican. My last comment to you on this subject.

Have it your own way, Frank. Others who has responded to your lie can't be wrong.

Some have even supported my love of my country, the US of A, and I have also explained the reasons for it.

Maybe, you know me better than I know myself.

Your condescending bull shyt that goes way beyond your self-importance.

Of coarse only you are right and truthful. LOL

Yes I did.

You wrote: "This is nothing more than than the old, have you tasted a saltier dik than mine, question."

I have no idea of where that came from...or how it applies to what we are discussing.



URL: http://able2know.org/topic/217301-453

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Yes I did.

You wrote: "This is nothing more than than the old, have you tasted a saltier dik than mine, question."

I have no idea of where that came from...or how it applies to what we are discussing.



URL: http://able2know.org/topic/217301-453

It relates to the kind of questions you enjoy asking. Answer the question. A yes admits to sucking diks. A no admits to sucking diks. So no matter what answer one gives it puts him in a bad light because of the way the question is put. It is the same as accusing some one of being a dik sucker without coming out and saying it. Not a direct lie, just stretching things a little.

I think anybody who spends as much time as ci telling us what a disgusting place America is...should leave.

The American Middle Class Is No Longer the World’s Richest
APRIL 22, 2014

By David Leonhardt and Kevin Quealy

While the wealthiest Americans are outpacing many of their global peers, a New York Times analysis shows that across the lower- and middle-income tiers, citizens of other advanced countries have received considerably larger raises over the last three decades.

After-tax middle-class incomes in Canada — substantially behind in 2000 — now appear to be higher than in the United States. The poor in much of Europe earn more than poor Americans.

The numbers, based on surveys conducted over the past 35 years, offer some of the most detailed publicly available comparisons for different income groups in different countries over time. They suggest that most American families are paying a steep price for high and rising income inequality.

U.S. students lag around average on international science, math and reading test

By Lyndsey Layton December 3, 2013
Scores in math, reading and science posted by 15-year-olds in the United States were flat while their counterparts elsewhere — particularly in Shanghai, Singapore and other Asian provinces or countries — soared, according to the results of a well-regarded international exam released Tuesday.

While U.S. teenagers were average in reading and science, their scores were below average in math, compared to 64 other countries and economies that participated in the 2012 Program for International Student Assessment, or PISA. That pattern has not changed much since the PISA test was first given in 2000.

“Our scores are stagnant. We’re not seeing any improvement for our 15-year-olds,” said Jack Buckley, commissioner at the National Center for Education Statistics, the research arm of the Education Department. “But our ranking is slipping because a lot of these other countries are improving.”

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I think anybody who spends as much time as ci telling us what a disgusting place America is...should leave.

And hyperbole aside, that's exactly what the supporters of the Vietnam war were saying to anti-war activists: if you hate America, why don't you go to Russia?" The word "love" in "America, love it or leave it" is rhetorical, it's there for the euphony with "leave"... It doesn't imply that one needed to luuuuuuve America allheartedly to be allowed to stay. It just meant, as you say now, that people who criticise the US too much should leave the US.

I never said the US was a "disgusting place." Those are not my words. My wife and I love our home here in Silicon Valley, and I've said so many times before on many different forums on a2k.

Frank doesn't know how to separate my disgust with our political system vs my love for this country. It's the place where our family has done very well; it's the country that provided us all the opportunities to become successful. It was a time when the politics of this country didn't affect the younger generation of its day like it does now when government really worked.

Today, the middle class isn't even keeping up with inflation. Our standard of education is falling behind most developed countries.

From the NYT.

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The American Middle Class Is No Longer the World’s Richest
APRIL 22, 2014

By David Leonhardt and Kevin Quealy

While the wealthiest Americans are outpacing many of their global peers, a New York Times analysis shows that across the lower- and middle-income tiers, citizens of other advanced countries have received considerably larger raises over the last three decades.

After-tax middle-class incomes in Canada — substantially behind in 2000 — now appear to be higher than in the United States. The poor in much of Europe earn more than poor Americans.

The numbers, based on surveys conducted over the past 35 years, offer some of the most detailed publicly available comparisons for different income groups in different countries over time. They suggest that most American families are paying a steep price for high and rising income inequality.

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U.S. students lag around average on international science, math and reading test

By Lyndsey Layton December 3, 2013
Scores in math, reading and science posted by 15-year-olds in the United States were flat while their counterparts elsewhere — particularly in Shanghai, Singapore and other Asian provinces or countries — soared, according to the results of a well-regarded international exam released Tuesday.

While U.S. teenagers were average in reading and science, their scores were below average in math, compared to 64 other countries and economies that participated in the 2012 Program for International Student Assessment, or PISA. That pattern has not changed much since the PISA test was first given in 2000.

“Our scores are stagnant. We’re not seeing any improvement for our 15-year-olds,” said Jack Buckley, commissioner at the National Center for Education Statistics, the research arm of the Education Department. “But our ranking is slipping because a lot of these other countries are improving.”