"Spying on Americans en masse," to which I say it doesn't matter to me; whatever it takes to safeguard America is fine with me. ... If the US government's monitoring all calls will prevent another 9/11, that is OK with me.
We will never agree on this point. On the 150th anniversary of the Battle of Gettysburg when 50,000 Americans gave their lives to try to forge a country that was just slightly more just than what it had been, I will never sign away my constitutional freedoms for an illusion of security. So what are you getting for giving up all your freedoms? Through May, four citizens have been killed by terrorists (in Boston). Eleven citizens have been killed by toddlers wielding hand guns in the same time period. In 2011, there were 32,376 deaths in auto accidents. For the same year, there were 32,163 deaths due to guns. If you really wanted the government to protect you, why don't you demand the ban of cars or guns? We Americans talk a big game. "Give me liberty or give me death!" We refuse to wear motorcycle helmets, drive 55, and wear seatbeats when there is hard evidence that these will each save thousands of lives. When the government tries to mandate rules for health insurance or energy conservation or reasonable gun control, there are protests in the street. But when terrorists offer the slightest threat, we are ready to throw away our rights. Not only are you willing to do "whatever it takes", to give up your basic constitutional rights to reduce those four deaths to maybe two, you are willing to give up mine. Mine aren't for sale for a miniscule amount of security or the illusion of safety. They just aren't and even if you want to give up yours, you can't give up mine.
Engineer, my husband and I are two Americans who simply do not care if we are spied on; we don't have anything to hide....we are transparent.
I've asked this question a couple of times and I guess you've answered it here. If an NSA agent knocked on your door and said "Hello sir. I would like all your Internet traffic and information on all of your calls to promote national security. Please turn it over." Would you be ok with that? You're saying "yes, let me get it for you." I'll say "my information will not help you but if you want it you will have to have a warrant." That is what is happening today except the NSA is not being polite enough to knock and ask. When we lose the right to tell our government no, the terrorists have won. Mobs are fighting in Egypt right now for what you are willing to throw away. I object not because I don't love my country, but because I do.
Every single claim you have stated against Snowden can be equally said about Ellsberg, the pledge of confidentiality, the betrayal of government, going directly against his superiors, etc. The reaction to him was pretty much exactly the same as the reaction on this thread. Why is he a hero and Snowden a traitor? Explain the difference to me. I think they are both heroes.