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What are your pet peeves re English usage?

 
 
Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jan, 2007 07:49 am
Mates, we're quickly slipping off the solid rock of pet peeves and into the dangerous waters of geography here.
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jan, 2007 07:54 am
Okay- without looking- what sea area are the Channel Islands in?

(And sorry foreign friends, I thought this was the British Thread....I got confused Embarrassed )
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jan, 2007 07:57 am
All I know is that the Channel Islands are not in LaManche. But I'm a Yank. WoddooIknow?
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jan, 2007 07:58 am
I'll answer on the Brit thread
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McTag
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jan, 2007 08:00 am
Merry Andrew wrote:
All I know is that the Channel Islands are not in LaManche. But I'm a Yank. WoddooIknow?


We got Old Joisey. Smile
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Letty
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jan, 2007 03:46 pm
Another redundancy. Just saw someone write, "revert back."
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jan, 2007 05:19 pm
Letty wrote:
Another redundancy. Just saw someone write, "revert back."
well thats not as bad as revert forward. (which is not actually tautological or redundant, just daft)
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Letty
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jan, 2007 05:36 pm
Right, Steve. Also saw someone who wrote a contraction without the apostrophe. Razz

Incidentally, Brit. Do you know the difference between an apostrophe and a soliloquy in Shakespeare? Just having some fun now, 'cause I feel good this evening.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jan, 2007 05:53 pm
Letty wrote:
Right, Steve. Also saw someone who wrote a contraction without the apostrophe. Razz

Incidentally, Brit. Do you know the difference between an apostrophe and a soliloquy in Shakespeare? Just having some fun now, 'cause I feel good this evening.
point one. thats terrible. should be shot at dawn

point two yes but its late here and bottle of wine prevents me from giving concise answer...oh who the hell am I kidding...
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Letty
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jan, 2007 05:58 pm
Just put and "r" in daft and follow it with ale, and you'll know why I'm feeling good this evening.
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Mame
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jan, 2007 07:09 pm
I hate "past history"...
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 15 Jan, 2007 08:28 pm
I just learned that BrE makes "fathom" into a phrasal verb, as in,

"fathom out sth" or separably, "fathom sth out".

Who has been calling the kettle redundant?

Smile
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jan, 2007 02:10 am
JTT wrote:
I just learned that BrE makes "fathom" into a phrasal verb, as in,

"fathom out sth" or separably, "fathom sth out".

Who has been calling the kettle redundant?

Smile


Isn't fathom out like settle up? There are dozens of phrases like that.

Clean up, cash in.

Chill out.
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Letty
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jan, 2007 05:05 am
This will probably sound picky, but people are hanged. Pictures (and other things) are hung. Razz
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jan, 2007 06:55 am
JTT wrote:
I just learned that BrE makes "fathom" into a phrasal verb, as in,

"fathom out sth" or separably, "fathom sth out".

Who has been calling the kettle redundant?

Smile


Could you spin this out further, perhaps, and conclude

To fathom: to think deeply and understand

Fathom out: to solve, puzzle out (McTaggiam-Webstar Dictionary)

Or maybe not?
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McTag
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jan, 2007 06:57 am
Letty wrote:
This will probably sound picky, but people are hanged. Pictures (and other things) are hung. Razz


And doors are hinged.
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Tue 16 Jan, 2007 07:56 am
Letty wrote:
This will probably sound picky, but people are hanged.
Saddam's half brother was hanged and decapitated.
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McTag
 
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Reply Wed 17 Jan, 2007 06:03 am
Yes well. I tried to delete that last post of mine but someone did it for me.
Or the ether just swallowed the thread for a while.
That's enough about hanging for now.
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plainoldme
 
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Reply Wed 17 Jan, 2007 06:08 pm
I hate past history as well.
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JTT
 
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Reply Wed 17 Jan, 2007 07:18 pm
McTag wrote:
JTT wrote:
I just learned that BrE makes "fathom" into a phrasal verb, as in,

"fathom out sth" or separably, "fathom sth out".

Who has been calling the kettle redundant?

Smile


Isn't fathom out like settle up? There are dozens of phrases like that.

Clean up, cash in.

Chill out.


Usually, though obviously not always, witness 'fathom out', phrasal verbs are formed/have been formed from more common everyday verbs. There is, of course nothing wrong with any dialect of English making any verb they choose into a phrasal verb, so, yes, McTag, it's just like the others you've noted. It was just strange to me.
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