Lib Dem British MP Castigates Israel

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The fact that women are mistreated and even brutalized in the USA and other places hardly makes it acceptable for the Pals to do this.

But it does highlight your hypocrisy, Advocate.

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Moreover, it is a prevalent thing in the WB and Gaza.

Israel is 15th in the world in rapes. Does that count for anything?

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap-crime-rapes

So you would be quite happy to have your daughter (assuming arguendo that you have one) live in a Muslim country.

You wrote,

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So you would be quite happy to have your daughter (assuming arguendo that you have one) live in a Muslim country.

A non-sequitur if there ever was one!

So you would be quite happy to have your daughter (assuming arguendo that you have one) live in a Muslim country. There are not many people in the USA who would want that for their daughter.

You are absolutely correct that I give no credit to the so-called Right of Return.

This is clearly a ploy to dissolve Israel from within, and one which Israel and anyone not unquestionably wedded (for whatever reason) to Palestinian extremism will, sanely, reject.

This is clearly a ploy to dissolve Israel from within,

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This is clearly a ploy to dissolve Israel from within,

The same "ploy" being used by people of Mexican descent to reclaim the southwest, Finn? What would your recommendation be to prevent this?

How about another Holocaust? You approve of these things just to help US business steal from others.

The Pals are requesting legal immigration to Israel for all Pals, even those who never lived in Israel.

Harvard University professor Samuel P. Huntington stated in 2004 that:
“ Demographically, socially and culturally, the reconquista of the Southwest United States by Mexico is well under way. No other immigrant group in U.S. history has asserted or could assert a historical claim to U.S. territory. Mexicans and Mexican-Americans can and do make that claim.[1][2]

According to the United States Census Bureau, as of 2009 and 2010, six out of seven U.S. states with highest proportions of people of Mexican origin were in the Southwestern United States, including the seven modern-day states that used to be part of Mexico - California (30%), Arizona (25.9%), New Mexico (28.7%), Texas (31.6%), Nevada (20%), Colorado (15.1%), and Utah (9.4%).

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The Pals are requesting legal immigration to Israel for all Pals, even those who never lived in Israel.

And Israelis from across the globe, ones who have never lived in Palestine, are moving there.

Foofie wrote:

The Protocols were proven to be a forgery, possibly authored by the Czars secret police, I've read. But, in what context can Russia possibly be called Zionist? Are you making a joke? Have you not seen Fiddler On the Roof, which captured the adversary relationship between Russian Jews and the Czarist regime? Do tell.

Sorry you're right, I meant to type Czarist Russia, (all that Z sound got me mixed up)I didn't realise that it had slipped through. The thing about the Protocols, is that despite being proven to be a forgery, far right groups still quote it today

It may be anecdotal to you, but most Muslims are peace loving people who live all over this globe including Europe, India, Central Asia, Indonesia, and the US.

Finn dAbuzz wrote:

You are absolutely correct that I give no credit to the so-called Right of Return.

This is clearly a ploy to dissolve Israel from within, and one which Israel and anyone not unquestionably wedded (for whatever reason) to Palestinian extremism will, sanely, reject.

Regardless of the rationalizations of "dissolving Israel from within," and "Palestinian extremism" whatever all of that means, the Palestinians' Right of Return is both moral and legal, Zionist ethnocentric extremism, nothwithstanding.

Don't forget many Catholics still think of Jews collectively as Christ Killers.

Harvard University professor Samuel P. Huntington stated in 2004 that:
“ Demographically, socially and culturally, the reconquista of the Southwest United States by Mexico is well under way. No other immigrant group in U.S. history has asserted or could assert a historical claim to U.S. territory. Mexicans and Mexican-Americans can and do make that claim.[1][2]

According to the United States Census Bureau, as of 2009 and 2010, six out of seven U.S. states with highest proportions of people of Mexican origin were in the Southwestern United States, including the seven modern-day states that used to be part of Mexico - California (30%), Arizona (25.9%), New Mexico (28.7%), Texas (31.6%), Nevada (20%), Colorado (15.1%), and Utah (9.4%).

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The Pals are requesting legal immigration to Israel for all Pals, even those who never lived in Israel.

And Israelis from across the globe, ones who have never lived in Palestine, are moving there.

October 1948 – March 1949
This period of the exodus was characterized by Israeli military accomplishments; Operation Yoav, in October, this cleared the road to the Negev, culminating in the capture of Beersheba; Operation Hiram, at the end of October, resulted in the capture of the Upper Galilee; Operation Horev in December 1948 and Operation Uvda in March 1949, completed the capture of the Negev (the Negev had been allotted to the Jewish State by the United Nations) these operations were met with resistance from the Palestinian Arabs who were to become refugees. The Israeli military activities were confined to the Galilee and the sparsely populated Negev desert. It was clear to the villages in the Galilee, that if they left, return was far from imminent. Therefore, far fewer villages spontaneously depopulated than previously. Most of the Palestinian exodus was due to a clear, direct cause: expulsion and deliberate harassment, as Morris writes 'commanders were clearly bent on driving out the population in the area they were conquering'.[10]:490
During Operation Hiram in the upper Galilee, Israeli military commanders received the order: 'Do all you can to immediately and quickly purge the conquered territories of all hostile elements in accordance with the orders issued. The residents should be helped to leave the areas that have been conquered'. (31 October 1948, Moshe Carmel) The UN's acting Mediator, Ralph Bunche, reported that United Nations Observers had recorded extensive looting of villages in Galilee by Israeli forces, who carried away goats, sheep and mules. This looting, United Nations Observers reported, appeared to have been systematic as army trucks were used for transportation. The situation, states the report, created a new influx of refugees into Lebanon. Israeli forces, he stated, have occupied the area in Galilee formerly occupied by Kaukji's forces, and have crossed the Lebanese frontier. Bunche goes on to say "that Israeli forces now hold positions inside the south-east corner of Lebanon, involving some fifteen Lebanese villages which are occupied by small Israeli detachments".[68]
According to Morris[10]:492 altogether 200,000–230,000 Palestinians left in this stage. According to Ilan Pappé, "In a matter of seven months, five hundred and thirty one villages were destroyed and eleven urban neighborhoods emptied [...] The mass expulsion was accompanied by massacres, rape and [the] imprisonment of men [...] in labor camps for periods [of] over a year".[69]

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Don't forget many Catholics still think of Jews collectively as Christ Killers.

Wasn't this god's plan for his kid? If Jews were responsible, wouldn't they simply have been helping god carry out his plan?

Foofie, You are really uninformed about the history of Israel and the Palestinian people.

This is from Wiki.

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October 1948 – March 1949
This period of the exodus was characterized by Israeli military accomplishments; Operation Yoav, in October, this cleared the road to the Negev, culminating in the capture of Beersheba; Operation Hiram, at the end of October, resulted in the capture of the Upper Galilee; Operation Horev in December 1948 and Operation Uvda in March 1949, completed the capture of the Negev (the Negev had been allotted to the Jewish State by the United Nations) these operations were met with resistance from the Palestinian Arabs who were to become refugees. The Israeli military activities were confined to the Galilee and the sparsely populated Negev desert. It was clear to the villages in the Galilee, that if they left, return was far from imminent. Therefore, far fewer villages spontaneously depopulated than previously. Most of the Palestinian exodus was due to a clear, direct cause: expulsion and deliberate harassment, as Morris writes 'commanders were clearly bent on driving out the population in the area they were conquering'.[10]:490
During Operation Hiram in the upper Galilee, Israeli military commanders received the order: 'Do all you can to immediately and quickly purge the conquered territories of all hostile elements in accordance with the orders issued. The residents should be helped to leave the areas that have been conquered'. (31 October 1948, Moshe Carmel) The UN's acting Mediator, Ralph Bunche, reported that United Nations Observers had recorded extensive looting of villages in Galilee by Israeli forces, who carried away goats, sheep and mules. This looting, United Nations Observers reported, appeared to have been systematic as army trucks were used for transportation. The situation, states the report, created a new influx of refugees into Lebanon. Israeli forces, he stated, have occupied the area in Galilee formerly occupied by Kaukji's forces, and have crossed the Lebanese frontier. Bunche goes on to say "that Israeli forces now hold positions inside the south-east corner of Lebanon, involving some fifteen Lebanese villages which are occupied by small Israeli detachments".[68]
According to Morris[10]:492 altogether 200,000–230,000 Palestinians left in this stage. According to Ilan Pappé, "In a matter of seven months, five hundred and thirty one villages were destroyed and eleven urban neighborhoods emptied [...] The mass expulsion was accompanied by massacres, rape and [the] imprisonment of men [...] in labor camps for periods [of] over a year".[69]

Who left "voluntarily?"