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Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

 
 
BillRM
 
  -1  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 05:43 am
@RexRed,
Quote:
That still does not address the question would the military base be an safer with more soldiers armed? Highly unlikely...


The safest store to be in is a gun store as all the clerks are openly armed and no one try to rob such a store with all it hundreds of thousands of weapons at least until it is close and all the armed employees are gone.
BillRM
 
  -1  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 05:53 am
@wandeljw,
Quote:
Manufacturers of assault weapons directly advertise to survivalists or preppers. I agree that these people are dangerously paranoid.


Any killings or any criminal conduct of any kind to be pointed to concerning this group?

Or is it just any group that tend to be armed must be dangerous in your eyes?
BillRM
 
  -1  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 06:07 am
@RexRed,
The soldiers were all disarmed and doing some paperwork at the time of the shootings so it is another good example of the wisdom to be armed at all times.

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McTag
 
  1  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 06:18 am
@firefly,

Good post that, appreciate it, thanks.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Thu 20 Dec, 2012 06:27 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Quote:
Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5200113)
Frank Apisa wrote:
You are far from sticking to the truth, Oralloy...



Given the fact that I provided you with proof in my previous message, greater truthfulness and accuracy will come from altering the manor in which I respond to you.

You trash shouldn't run around falsely accusing your betters of your own dishonesty.


You have not provided "proof" of any of the things I mentioned, Oralloy. You cannot...because they are not so.

I notice you faulted someone for "name calling"...but here you have called me "trash"...and have suggested that somehow you are one of my "betters."

That is uncalled for...and you really ought to get control of yourself.

By the way, the word is "manner" not "manor."

Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 06:31 am
@RexRed,
Right you are, Rex. I already mentioned that...but the people arguing the other side of this issue seem not to notice.

I wonder why that is??? Wink
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boomerang
 
  4  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 06:33 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
...that once he turned 18 and she could not legally decide for him ...


He was 20 years old by every report I've read.
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wandeljw
 
  1  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 07:03 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

Quote:
Manufacturers of assault weapons directly advertise to survivalists or preppers. I agree that these people are dangerously paranoid.


Any killings or any criminal conduct of any kind to be pointed to concerning this group?

Or is it just any group that tend to be armed must be dangerous in your eyes?


Adam Lanza's mother was a prepper who believed she must arm herself for the coming economic collapse and breakdown of society. According to The New York Times:
Quote:
Investigators have linked Ms. Lanza to five weapons: two powerful handguns, two traditional hunting rifles and a semiautomatic rifle that is similar to weapons used by troops in Afghanistan. Her son took the two handguns and the semiautomatic rifle to the school. Law enforcement officials said they believed the guns were acquired legally and were registered.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/nyregion/friends-of-gunmans-mother-his-first-victim-recall-her-as-generous.html?_r=0

spendius
 
  1  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 08:20 am
@wandeljw,
Quote:
Adam Lanza's mother was a prepper who believed she must arm herself
Adam Lanza's mother was a prepper who believed she must arm herself for the coming economic collapse and breakdown of society.


Such a theory has been aired here and it goes further than the lady simply arming herself for the coming economic collapse and breakdown of society. Where it goes is too dangerous to be discussed openly.

Suffice to say that it is an insanity.
spendius
 
  1  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 08:28 am
@spendius,
In fact it is one of the arguments used to justify abortion.
ossobuco
 
  1  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 08:33 am
@firefly,
I am not so sure that proceeding toward commitment means anything but that person proceeding wants to be declared in control of the care of the person who is the subject of the commitment. That might include power to have the person hospitalized for a time (I think that has to be a separate court procedure), but I don't know that that is always a followup, or a followup for long.
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Frank Apisa
 
  1  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 08:33 am
@spendius,
Quote:
In fact it is one of the arguments used to justify abortion.


It is?

I'd be interested to hear that argument used that way, Spendius. Not saying it cannot...but I can't come up with one that works for me.
H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 09:04 am
@BillRM,


People arguing the other side of this issue don't seem to base their argument on any sort of reality
spendius
 
  1  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 09:09 am
@Frank Apisa,
Quote:
I'd be interested to hear that argument used that way, Spendius. Not saying it cannot...but I can't come up with one that works for me.


I would keep it that way if I was you Frank. Arguments from insanity should be avoided.
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RexRed
 
  1  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 09:50 am
Rachel Maddow on gun buyback
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#50253936
H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 09:53 am
@RexRed,
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-RVgzCYLqKH0/T8HIGjleShI/AAAAAAAAE0M/s_dyVc-zv8s/s1600/Rachel+Maddow_Your_Pants_Are_On_Fire.jpg
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H2O MAN
 
  0  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 09:54 am
@RexRed,
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7C9VzTTV0Bk/UJW_AB_mB1I/AAAAAAAACsI/x1Zyb9A9og0/s1600/0197-msnbc-more-stupid-nonstop-bullshit-t-shirt-1-366x366.jpg
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BillRM
 
  0  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 09:56 am
@H2O MAN,
Quote:
People arguing the other side of this issue don't seem to base their argument on any sort of reality


That surely is true when it come to the idea that rifles that are label assault rifles are somehow more deadly then other similar weapons and should be ban.

Limit on mags size can be argue one way or another and to me it seem a toss up and in most of the mass shootings it would not likely had matter as far as the death toll is concern.
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Val Killmore
 
  0  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 10:47 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Of course "context matters." That's the reason why your use of "bad parent" can't be identified that easily. That you can judge others of being a "bad parent" doesn't hold water or logic. Don't use statements that suggest someone is bad parent unless you have evidence of it.


There is evidence. Fanapt and guns shouldn't be mixed. Only a bad parent would mix these two ingredients.
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Val Killmore
 
  1  
Thu 20 Dec, 2012 10:48 am
@Ragman,
Ragman wrote:

Val Killmore wrote:

I'll get back to you on that.


Translation: I don't know but I think talking gibberish is a hoot.


No, the translation should be more like I'm not semi retired or retired, and preoccupied with more important matters outside of the forum cyber world.

Back on the subject.

Quote:
New York Magazine wrote a piece ...Inside the piece though they report Adam Lanza's uncle said the boy was prescribed Fanapt, a controversial anti-psychotic medicine.


More info: http://naturalsociety.com/predictions-confirmed-shooter-adam-lanza-was-on-violence-linked-anti-psychotic-fanapt/

There is one evidence, which suggests that Lanza had a tendency to aggression, although indirectly by the drug used to treat his aspergers syndrome.
 

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