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Given that ethics, mathematics, logic, science (biology, physics, etc.) economics, psychology, computer science, and sociology (just to name the "biggies") are all the spawn of philosophy and are predicated on philosophical assumptions, it seems philosophy is not practiced by you and your club full of handful of people. Our entire culture is predicated on the efforts of many who have questioned and thought boldly. Your ideas are betrayed in your snark comment and pettiness to let alone make anyone else think otherwise by your lack of skills to think deeply or question the assumptions, political, ethical or otherwise, which you holds most dearly.

y (just to name the "biggies") are all the spawn of philosophy and are predicated on philosophical assumptions,

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Sorry the constitution is the framework of the US form of government every damn word of it.

When the government no longer follow every damn word of it it is no longer a valid or legal government on it face.

It had zero to do with religion it is the contract between the American people and their government. When and if the people wish to amend the document it contain the means of doing so within it.

Here is the oath of all our presidents from Washington to Obama.

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"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Sorry the constitution is the framework of the US form of government every damn word of it.

am not sure if you understood his/her point. How is this any different than what other countries believe in but you may disagree with? Just because a society believes it to be beneficial and true does not make it so. Would you think that some extremist societies that believe in sharia law should be upheld and taught as at truth or value?

Sorry it is the US people contract with it own government and the framework of that government. It is neither right or wrong as that have zero meaning in regard to a contract.

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When people read what their constitution says in their country and worship every word in it, you have the same mental frame of mind as God worshipers... in both instance they are worshiping words written by MEN from the past.

You are extremely intellectual in my opinion for recognizing that. I think you are correct.

tenderfoot? Does your name mean moral Indian or something similar?

Sorry the constitution is the framework of the US form of government every damn word of it.

When the government no longer follow every damn word of it it is no longer a valid or legal government on it face.

It had zero to do with religion it is the contract between the American people and their government. When and if the people wish to amend the document it contain the means of doing so within it.

Here is the oath of all our presidents from Washington to Obama.

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"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Come on Bill... the USA citizens have no contract other than than verbal one, same as your presidents oath.... it's still from a legal document that was compiled by man many years ago to be able to control the masses for their own good ( IN THE USA) and the vast majority of USA citizens are Christians who worship their bible the same as they do their constitution.

The way I see it, the use of philosophy is as a method for examining the consistency of ideas. I don't think it answers questions.

Do a 5 mile walk nearly everyday and have for since gawed knows when, live in a place with nice warm climate and wear thongs or bare feet when possible... so name suits me.

The way I see it, the use of philosophy is as a method for examining the consistency of ideas. I don't think it answers questions. I think it asks them and finds certain answers wanting and thus to be discarded. Similar to the scientific method, its certainties are with regard to what it has rejected.

If you think that I play a game of I'm right and you're wrong then you must not read all of what I write.

But would you refrain from such talks as "club" and "handful of people" when describing who participates and find interest in moral philosophy, for philosophy's sake?

How can you say that when moral philosophy is second nature to us?
Generally speaking, Humans are already moral philosophers insofar as they are reasonable, and humans partake in moral philosophy insofar as they think reasonably. Why do you equate interest with how well and how poorly a person does philosophy?

I find more people showing an interest in it and embracing it (science) than I find people trying to construct a better moral concept that uses logical consistencies.