Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

There must be a reason why some don't want background checks ...

Who is opposing background checks?

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@Region Philbis,

Obama reacts to the news of several children being shot in Connecticut.
As the body count grew, so grew Obama's smile.

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

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But that intransigence may ultimately lead to tighter laws...and for that, I guess we ought to be thanking you.

So from me...thank you.

LoL...yeah I agree!...Thanks Guys!

Preventing you from violating our civil rights is not going to lead to any violation of our civil rights.

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@spendius,

Tanks....LOL any such in private hands are demilitarized and let see in the history of the country one person had a home make tank/armor bulldozer that did a number on a small town and then we had the gentleman that stole a national guard tank and took it for a ride doing property damage.

The results were two deaths and in both cases it was the tank drivers.

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@oralloy,

My point was her holding the gun was a huge turnoff...When she is a pretty girl...

You keep arguing about violations...Why? Who would want to violate your rights? Or anyone else's with a gun? Do you think we do not know what guns can do? If some of us think that unstable people have guns...Why would they want to violate these peoples rights? As the stable people...We know what will happen...Who would want to violate that woman's rights? Do you think we all do not understand she is serious? Or what guns can do?

We have the freedom of speech to say we think there should be more strict guns laws...and that is a reality you have to accept...

Unless someone tries to illegally seize them from you...tells you, you can not own one when you can...Or tries to attack you...No one is violating anything so stop saying it already...

We know you can have them...we know it is your right...And it is our right to petition stricter laws...which we will...get over yourself...And stop being so paranoid...

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@H2O MAN,

They couldn't find an Asian kid?

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H2O MAN wrote:

During today's White House presser it's said Obama will surround himself with Obama Youth.

I wonder if they will sing that insidious Mmm, mmm, mm Obama propoganda song to their leader???

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@BillRM,

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Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5228521)
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Too bad some of you people cannot see that there are people exhibiting behavior that indicates they SHOULD NOT own guns...REGARDLESS of the fact that they CAN.

Sorry I do not wish at any price to live in a nation who government can punish people for insulting politic speech.

Wake the hell up, Bill. At no point have I suggested this is about punishing people for insulting political speech.

This is about a steady stream of anger and unreasonable hostility…to the point of suggesting people with whom he disagrees should be sent to Guantanamo to be waterboarded. This is about an apparently unstable personality and a temperament that should set off alarm bells for any reasonable person that this individual may very well be unsuitability for gun ownership...and it is about time that we recognize that people exhibiting his kind of behavior ought not to be allowed to buy or own guns.

You know damn well I am not talking about punishing free speech, Bill…so save that pretend indignation for someone buying that nonsense.

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That is breed into the very bones of our nation since it founding with some sad rare examples otherwise such as the Sedition acts and Lincoln shutting some newspapers down during our civil war and putting a move director in prison for making an anti English movie during WW1.

Very pretty speech! Now read my response up above again...and save the pretty speeches for people willing to buy into that nonsense.

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@BillRM,

Do you mean that you're not allowed to have a properly equipped tank if you have the dough?

That can't be constitutional surely?

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@XXSpadeMasterXX,

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

You keep arguing about violations...Why?

Because I support civil rights.

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

Who would want to violate your rights?

You do.

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

As the stable people...We

Your opposition to civil rights hardly makes you "the stable people".

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

Who would want to violate that woman's rights?

You do.

XXSpadeMasterXX wrote:

Unless someone tries to illegally seize them from you...tells you, you can not own one when you can...Or tries to attack you...No one is violating anything so stop saying it already...

You are proposing to violate our rights, and you will be condemned for your proposals to violate our rights.

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And it is our right to petition stricter laws...get over yourself...

You will be defeated, both in Congress and in the courts.

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@spendius,

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Do you mean that you're not allowed to have a properly equipped tank if you have the dough?

That can't be constitutional surely?

As long as the guns are fixed so they can not work you can have tanks in fact there are a lot of tanks in private hands.

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@H2O MAN,

You're just having fun aren't you H2O??

You know very well that nothing of significance is going to happen any time soon.

Your opponents are disorganised and spouting out in so many different direction that they must be mesmerised by the confusion they are creating. As soon as they support the 2nd they are doomed.

And I would guess that the vast majority of House and Senate members have guns and feel they need them.

All stricter background checks will achieve is increased government spending. Same with assessments of mental stability.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

Do you mean that you're not allowed to have a properly equipped tank if you have the dough?

Actually, you probably could, if you bothered with the paperwork.

Maybe not explosive shells, but those tend not to be used in modern tanks anyway.

Not sure how hard it would be to get DU rounds. Should be legal, but you'd have to find a vender to sell them to you.

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@oralloy,

Who would want to violate the right of someone with a gun? Especially if we think they may not be stable enough to have one...

We will petition for stricter guns laws...and it is our right...No one is going to be dumb enough to violate your rights with guns in your hands...

Only a foolish dead man would do so...

No one has said you can't have them...No one is trying to seize them...No one is trying to intrude on your personal property....

Stop being paranoid...

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@BillRM,

Since different types of media can be taxed differently then different types of guns can be taxed differently.

You really need to think through your court cases and how they apply Bill. Clearly the media can be taxed and it can be taxed at different rates. That would mean guns can be taxed and can be taxed at different rates.

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@spendius,

It's no fun watching Obama and his liberal democrats **** on the constitution.

All those that support Obama are doomed.

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@oralloy,

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Try the Second Amendment. Strict Scrutiny says you have to have a very good reason to pass a law that impacts a right.

The second amendment doesn't negate Congressional power to tax or regulate commerce. Since buying and selling of guns is commerce, clearly Congress has the power to regulate it.

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@BillRM,

BillRM wrote:

spendius wrote:
Do you mean that you're not allowed to have a properly equipped tank if you have the dough?

As long as the guns are fixed so they can not work you can have tanks in fact there are a lot of tanks in private hands.

If one were to get the guns registered as NFA weapons, they should be able to have even fully-functional guns on a tank.

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

parados wrote:
Unless you want to argue that buying and selling guns are not commerce there is no comparison to voting and free speech rights.

Nonsense. Our gun rights are protected just as much as any other rights.

Sure.... that must be why you were so against requiring ID to vote.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Walter Hinteler wrote:

The person who created this 'poster' should get educated about the 1st Battle of Thermopylae: even Herodotus knew that the 300 Spartans were just part of a about 6,000 men army

I suggest we allow bronze swords for anyone that wants one. The Spartans didn't need guns.

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