Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

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And here's another dirty little truth that the media try their best to
conceal: There exists in this country a callous, corrupt and corrupting
shadow industry that sells, and sows, violence against its own people.
Through vicious, violent video games with names like Bulletstorm,
Grand Theft Auto, Mortal Kombat and Splatterhouse. And here’s one:
it’s called Kindergarten Killers. It’s been online for 10 years. How come
my research department could find it and all of yours either couldn’t or
didn’t want anyone to know you had found it?

The problem is, or at least one problem is, that kids are playing trigger games without internalizing any sort of a realistic idea of what happens when you pull triggers in real life. You get some of these cases in which kids

apparently pull triggers of real guns for the first time without entertaining the notion that anything or anybody could get hurt.

In the world of 1900 and on backwards, that would never have happened, kids all knew what guns did.

No, you don't have SCOTUS. 6-3 upholing gun bans is entirely probable.

Every single study in the Harvard review I cited post-dates his book, every single one.

And stop calling hunters sportsmen... not only do they use every kind of weaponry imaginable, they build duck calls to fool the ducks over to where they are waiting to kill them.

oralloy wrote:

MontereyJack wrote:

will be banned, as well as semi-automatic shotguns

In other words, they are trying to ban hunting weapons too.

Worth repeating.

Hey New York duck hunters. Guess whose hunting weapons just got banned?

Liberal democratic panic is spreading, evidenced by the irrational & childish comments posted up by the usual suspects
here on A2K

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Liberal democratic panic is spreading, evidenced by the irrational
& childish comments posted up by the usual suspects here on A2K

We can learn a lot about the problematic illusion-making tendencies of the discourse on guns by analyzing a recent news story from Loganville, Ga.
You may have heard about it: A lady was hiding in her attic from a burglar with her two kids and her Saturday night special when he used a crowbar to bust in on them. So she did what she had to do. Next thing you know, the creeper with them two feets who came a-creepin’ like a black cat do is on the floor full of .38 holes.
There’s an important aspect of this story I need to draw attention to at this point because it perplexes the hell outta me: He didn’t mean to violently intrude upon this family.
The guy shows up knocking at the door, ostensibly to sell them some encyclopedias or crowbars or something.
No answer. So he rings the doorbell a bunch of times, and instead of answering the door or somehow asking him what he wants, they hide and call the cops!
Now that he’s satisfied that no one is home, he begins liberating the family’s belongings in the name of the proletariat. Like any good burglar, he’s thorough, working through every room in the house until he eventually reaches the attic.
He opens the door, and suddenly a relatively harmless cat burglary becomes a violent home invasion.
Those with a pro-gun stance paraded this story as an example of why passing gun control legislation would be worse for America than a gay marriage between President Barack Obama and Michael Moore held on the steps of the Capitol where both tuxedos are made entirely from marijuana and birth control pills.
Self-defense is a legitimate thing; there are certain human instincts that encourage self-preservation rather than lengthy reflection and discussion of motives.
Or as Lao Tzu so wisely wrote, “Shoot first, ask questions later.”
The problematic part of how this scenario played out is not what she did in the heat of that moment. I just want to know why she didn’t, you know, answer the door in the first place.
C’mon, you gotta at least open a window and ask the dude what he wants!
Obviously I’m not saying she deserved to have her house broken into.
You can try to justify her in hindsight by saying, “Well, he just got out of jail in August, and he’s been arrested six times since 2008, so she had a right to be scared of him.” But she couldn’t have known that!
Unless the news left out the part where he yelled about his time in Folsom or the fact that his T-shirt said, “Ask me about jail!” there wasn’t a real reason for her to be scared of him initially, other than the same reason she bought the gun in the first place.
She’s been so conditioned by the stories of murders and home invasions that populate the evening news that she immediately went into xenophobia-induced panic mode as soon as someone whose appearance was mildly threatening intruded into her comfort zone.
This lady is being rightfully praised as a hero for protecting her family in the face of danger.
From all appearances, this guy was trying to find an EMPTY house to break into. If she had initially responded proactively by confronting him when he was a random, annoying guy hanging around ringing the doorbell incessantly, there’s a nonzero chance he would’ve just made up some excuse and moved on.
Instead she acted in an inexplicably irrational and paranoid way. Now he’s badly wounded, maybe dying, and her kids had to watch their mother repeatedly shoot a man while he begged her, crying, to stop.
Maybe guns are good, maybe they’re bad, but this story should’ve never gotten to the point where they were involved.
Sometimes it’s easier to ask someone just what the hell they think they’re doing rather than wait for them to do it.

Hey Obama,
Government is supposed to be a rather boring office job with perks regular Americans are
banned from having, not some cheap, goddamned soap opera made for Hollywood drama.

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Re: BillRM (Post 5226898)
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No I am saying that half the home owners in the US have every damn right to have weapons in their homes for whatever reason and by your logic you could ban almost anything in a home. In any case my father did a little hunting and some target shooting.

Huge strawman argument since Frank never proposed banning every gun.

Since children poison themselves with household items does that mean we should have no regulation of poisons? Why does the government require that poisons be in childproof containers and have warnings? Wouldn't we all be safer if poisons were not regulated at all?

Obama will announce his American disarmament plan tomorrow.

He will do this stand before a backdrop of little school children.

People who are constantly angry, hostile, and aggressive...who display immaturity in discussions and intemperance in personal interactions SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO OWN WEAPONS.

Frank Apisa wrote:

People who are constantly angry, hostile, and aggressive...who display immaturity in discussions and intemperance in personal interactions SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO OWN WEAPONS.

So if anyone exercise his or her first amendment rights and some panel of some kind does not care for the opinions express or the manner the opinions are expressed they would removed that person second amendment rights.

Hmm how must of the constitution do you think we need to tear up beside the first and second amendments?

Hmm how must of the constitution do you think we need to tear up beside the first and second amendments?

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Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5227482)
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People who are constantly angry, hostile, and aggressive...who display immaturity in discussions and intemperance in personal interactions SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO OWN WEAPONS.

So if anyone exercise his or her first amendment rights and some panel of some kind does not care for the opinions express or the manner the opinions are expressed they would removed that person second amendment rights.

Hmm how must of the constitution do you think we need to tear up beside the first and second amendments?