Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

Yup. The 2d Amendment guarantees Oralloy and Dave the right to keep muzzle-loaders in their homes and carry them to the meeting house when necessary. And maybe a cap-and-ball single-shot pistol stuck in their belts. That's all it says.

oralloy wrote:

Constitution says I have the right to have the ones you're trying to ban.

Now youve stepped over the bounds of factual discussion. NOWHERE in the Constitution does it discuss ANY types of "arms" other than the definition of ARMS as was in effect at the time of ratification.

The government has no good reason for banning pistol grips and flash suppressors, therefore it is unconstitutional to do so

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The government has no good reason for banning pistol grips and flash suppressors, therefore it is unconstitutional to do so

The Supremes are merely people of their times. You folks who prey for an overturn of Roe v Wade must also recognize that these decisions regarding
guns are merely functions of todays court makeup. When the time is right and America is really fed up with such crap, Itll change

Lustig Andrei wrote:

Yup. The 2d Amendment guarantees Oralloy and Dave the right to keep muzzle-loaders in their homes and carry them to the meeting house when necessary. And maybe a cap-and-ball single-shot pistol stuck in their belts. That's all it says.

Wrong. The Constitution applies to modern technology. The Framers never intended our rights to apply only to ancient and obsolete technology.

That fallacy is pretty silly. What next, Free Speech only applies to text written by a quill and ink? Freedom of Religion only applies within churches built in the 1700s and never modernized?

Im more pissed at the SIgma arguments made by the whole crowd of the "weapons at all cists are what we must protect at all costs, screw the victims".

Im a proud owner and user of guns. I often have to carry in field situiations . BUT , I am a fierce opponent of these 2nd amendment yahoos who dont see anything but serving their gun ownership without any restrictions in order to prevent things like this .
Whenever these things occur guys like ORAL, or that little mouse Dave, and usually Billy, circle their ******* wagons and start lecturing about their precious weapons.

We are a society that is gonna fall into anarchy based upon the unlimited uncontrolled ownership and brandishing of guns by douche bags, nuts, and little pissants like Dave who churn this **** like its a religion.

Comparing auto accidents to killing innocent kids and folks in theaters or gatherings just to exercise ones demons is like comparing lightning to a lightning bug. We arev dealing with domestic terror and, if these guys dont soon recognize it, weve been busy enmacting all sorts of freedom limiting laws to defeat "terrorists" but we are empowering and enabling these domestic terrorists just because theres a big fuckin DEATH LOBBY that serves in its favor

And I stand by and ratify what Farmer says. I'd say anybody who's been afraid to face the world without packing a pistol since he was eight is a "mouse", yes. Time to put the gun down and stand on your own two feet for once, David. Why are you incapable of doing that?

For every mass shooting victim that has lost their lives in the USA, 100 Mexicans have died at the hands of the USA's wimpy and nearly non existent gun regulations. Mexico has for decades pleaded with us in the USA to curb our gun proliferation

oralloy wrote:

The government has no good reason for banning pistol grips and flash suppressors, therefore it is unconstitutional to do so

The Supremes are merely people of their times. You folks who prey for an overturn of Roe v Wade must also recognize that these decisions regarding guns are merely functions of todays court makeup. When the time is right and America is really fed up with such crap, Itll change

I'd say anybody who's been afraid to face the world without packing a pistol since he was eight is a "mouse", yes. Time to put the gun down and stand on your own two feet for once, David. Why are you incapable of doing that?

and the weapons weere semi autos with large magazines full of damaging rounds. Stop trying to trivialize the weapon and the act by nonsensical comparisons.

Bullshit. It's called a civil society, and you've done your best to eradicate it.

Don't take this the wrong way and my heart goes out for the victims in this tragic incident. My question is, what of Mexico?

For every mass shooting victim that has lost their lives in the USA, 100 Mexicans have died at the hands of the USA's wimpy and nearly non existent gun regulations.

Some people say, "Well, the Mexican cartels will just get their guns another way..."

If this was the case then we would not be to blame. But we ARE to blame...

Yes it is a sad time indeed and, I am just pointing out that there is much more to be sad about and a greater reason for some new, very strict enhancements to our current gun regulations.

Yup. The 2d Amendment guarantees Oralloy and Dave the right to keep muzzle-loaders in their homes and carry them to the meeting house when necessary. And maybe a cap-and-ball single-shot pistol stuck in their belts. That's all it says.

Why do you freedom haters always resort to bigotry and name-calling whenever you are prevented from violating people's civil rights?

Such cannons were around in the revolution war and they are now completely legal to own and are not even consider a firearm.