Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

Given the idiots in the House, i can see it as a plausible scenario that the Republicans will succeed in preventing any useful assault weapons ban from being passed.

It no assault weapons band become law, it won't be because of some fantasy of unconstitutionality such as Orraloy entertains, it will be because of typical Republican obstructionism.

Why are you and others ignoring the need to get the guns out of the hands of criminals?

Ah yes, the "nope" ploy. That's the best you've got in the way of rhetorical method.

You're wrong about everything you claim in this post,

you're wrong about an assault weapons ban being unconstitutional.

I've made my point, i'm not going to play your idiot game any longer.

You're wrong,

To repeat, oralloy, the assault weapons ban, which is not going to be the new ban that passes, so arguing endlessly about it is futile, banned semiautomatic weapons with large magazines which could spray huge lethal amoounts of bullets in very little time. It did not ban features, which are NOT harmless cosmetic features but instead functional features characteristic of most actual assault rifles. There were, and will be, a large list of actual production models in the ban, andsome set of features characteristic of most of those specific weapons which will be used to characterize future models not yet in production.

And there is compelling public interest and rational basis in curtailing future wholesale rampages (as well as retail, one-at-time rampages).

Your idea of what rational basis is is really silly.

Oralloy wrote:

You've forgotten already that the House Democrats are backing off from any plans to ban assault weapons, and are going to focus only on magazine limits?

H2O is notorious for inventing "facts" when the real facts don't support him. I see you're gaining a reputation for inventing your own news.

oralloy wrote:

Sure I can, because there are indeed such facts. Comparisons of gun availability verses homicide/suicide rates across nations show that gun availability has little impact on either.

Really? And your study for this is where?

The suicide rate map pretty closely follows the gun suicide map. Most suicides happen where the most gun suicides happen.

http://www.nimh.nih.gov/statistics/4NAT_Map.shtml

H2O MAN wrote:

Damn MJ, you know less than firefly

But far, far more than you do.

according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Setanta wrote:

according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

Then Congress can prescribe a gunless discipline in the training. Arms being a bit of an ambiguous word.

No one wants to disarm private citizens of self defense guns.

What a great braying jackass . . .

Yes, i've long been aware that making empty claims is the best you've got going for you.