Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

When armies go to war, their weapon of choice are assault rifles or an equiv.

They leave their knives at home.

BillRM wrote:

Do you think that rifles with the name of an assault in them have inherently larger magazines in them then other semi-auto rifle or have a faster rate of fire or what?

So, the military went away from the M-1 because the M-16 provided no improvement? I suggest we go back the M-1 since it is cheaper if you want to argue their is no difference in the 2.

When it kills 27 people in 2 minutes it is.

oralloy wrote:

Feel free to try to point out anything I'm wrong about.

Let's start with this...

Quote:

A gun is not a weapon of mass destruction.

When it kills 27 people in 2 minutes it is.

And, you're wrong about such a great many things,

I'd be here all day listing them.

We have no idea if he suffered from a "mental illness".

An assault weapon is hardly a "war machine". And the Constitution protects our right to have them.

ASSAULT WEAPONS

By law, it is illegal for anyone to (1) possess assault weapons, unless he or she possessed the weapon before October 1, 1993, registered it with DPS before October 1, 1994, and received a DPS certificate of

possession for it; or (2) sell, transfer, distribute, or transport assault weapons (CGS § 53-202b). (The definition of assault weapons is highly technical; see CGS § 53-202a.)

The law (1) exempts from the assault weapon ban law enforcement officers, correction officials, and military and naval personnel discharging their official duties and (2) allows estate executors and administrators to possess registered estate weapons under probate court orders (CGS § 53-202c). Also, anyone, except a member of the military, who moves into Connecticut with a lawful assault weapon has 90 days to (1) render it permanently inoperable, (2) sell it to a licensed gun dealer, or (3) take it out of state. Members of the military who move to Connecticut, after October 1, 1994, have 90 days to get a certificate of possession for any legally possessed assault weapon (CGS §§ 53-202d(b)).
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2007/rpt/2007-R-0369.htm

Connecticut General Statutes 53-202a - Assault weapons: Definition Connecticut General Statutes > Title 53 > Chapter 943 > § 53-202a - Assault weapons: Definition

Current as of: 2009

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(a) As used in this section and sections 53-202b to 53-202k, inclusive, "assault weapon" means:

(1) Any selective-fire firearm capable of fully automatic, semiautomatic or burst fire at the option of the user or any of the following specified semiautomatic firearms: Algimec Agmi; Armalite AR-180; Australian Automatic Arms SAP Pistol; Auto-Ordnance Thompson type; Avtomat Kalashnikov AK-47 type; Barrett Light-Fifty model 82A1; Beretta AR-70; Bushmaster Auto Rifle and Auto Pistol; Calico models M-900, M-950 and 100-P; Chartered Industries of Singapore SR-88; Colt AR-15 and Sporter; Daewoo K-1, K-2, Max-1 and Max-2; Encom MK-IV, MP-9 and MP-45; Fabrique Nationale FN/FAL, FN/LAR, or FN/FNC; FAMAS MAS 223; Feather AT-9 and Mini-AT; Federal XC-900 and XC-450; Franchi SPAS-12 and LAW-12; Galil AR and ARM; Goncz High-Tech Carbine and High-Tech Long Pistol; Heckler & Koch HK-91, HK-93, HK-94 and SP-89; Holmes MP-83; MAC-10, MAC-11 and MAC-11 Carbine type; Intratec TEC-9 and Scorpion; Iver Johnson Enforcer model 3000; Ruger Mini-14/5F folding stock model only; Scarab Skorpion; SIG 57 AMT and 500 series; Spectre Auto Carbine and Auto Pistol; Springfield Armory BM59, SAR-48 and G-3; Sterling MK-6 and MK-7; Steyr AUG; Street Sweeper and Striker 12 revolving cylinder shotguns; USAS-12; UZI Carbine, Mini-Carbine and Pistol; Weaver Arms Nighthawk; Wilkinson "Linda" Pistol;

(2) A part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault weapon, as defined in subdivision (1) of this subsection, or any combination of parts from which an assault weapon, as defined in subdivision (1) of this subsection, may be rapidly assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person;

(3) Any semiautomatic firearm not listed in subdivision (1) of this subsection that meets the following criteria:

(A) A semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following:

(i) A folding or telescoping stock;

(ii) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

(iii) A bayonet mount;

(iv) A flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; and

(v) A grenade launcher; or

(B) A semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following:

(i) An ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

(ii) A threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip or silencer;

(iii) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned;

(iv) A manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and

(v) A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; or

(C) A semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following:

(i) A folding or telescoping stock;

(ii) A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon;

(iii) A fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; and

(iv) An ability to accept a detachable magazine; or

(4) A part or combination of parts designed or intended to convert a firearm into an assault weapon, as defined in subdivision (3) of this subsection, or any combination of parts from which an assault weapon, as defined in subdivision (3) of this subsection, may be rapidly assembled if those parts are in the possession or under the control of the same person.

(b) As used in this section and sections 53-202b to 53-202k, inclusive, the term "assault weapon" does not include any firearm modified to render it permanently inoperable.
http://www.lawserver.com/law/state/connecticut/ct-laws/connecticut_statutes_53-202a

denying that assault rifles are weapons of mass destruction

oralloy wrote:

When you freedom haters get called on your efforts to violate civil rights, that is neither baseless nor hyperbole.

Then tell us what specifically you are referring to - "outrageous proposals to violate our Constitutional rights"

Since you can't provide any outrageous proposal that exists your statement is not only baseless but hyperbole of the worst sort.

Since you can actually provide us with an outrageous proposal that violates the constitution then I would suggest you are wrong.

Clearly the Constitution allows for restrictions on rights as I have already pointed out. Unless you are willing to argue that no restrictions are allowed on speech or voting, then your argument about "outrageous proposals" is complete hogwash.

What a magnificent Communist stooge he would have made! It's a shame the Soviet Union collapsed; Oralloy would have been a perfect propagandist.

oralloy wrote:

An assault weapon is hardly a "war machine". And the Constitution protects our right to have them.

No, you do not have a Constitutional right to possess any and all types of assault weapons.

The state of Connecticut, for instance, bans possession of assault weapons, with a few exceptions.

These types of discussions are usually to no avail here. When someone starts posting idiotic comparisons of shootings to diabetes deaths and auto crashes,

and denying that assault rifles are weapons of mass destruction (IN A POD OF UNARMED CIVILIANS) , then we are blowin smoke up each others asses.

Hardly idiotic. I'm not familiar with the diabetes case, but the automobile comparison is quite useful when the freedom haters start babbling about "saving lives".

Someone like Oralloy has no intention or desire of having a rational discussion.

But Oalloy is an avid propagandist for the party line,

smooth as all hell

and able to call rational people "freedom haters" without batting an eyelash.

What a magnificent Communist stooge he would have made! It's a shame the Soviet Union collapsed; Oralloy would have been a perfect propagandist.