Another major school shooting today ... Newtown, Conn

@mysteryman,

mysteryman wrote:

Blaming a gun for gun violence is like blaming a rock for being thrown.

Or a whiskey to be drunken, a joint to be smoked, cocaine to be sniffed. No-one would get the idea to regulate such. Really, no-one ...

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@mysteryman,

I've told firefly a countless times that if one want to get to the heart of the matter, start with the human, not with the object that humans use to commit an action or inaction. For example, support and "demand a plan" to bring into effect better mental health programs and better social programs to decline poverty levels, harsher sentencing guidelines on people for committing crimes with guns or using guns irresponsibly, etc. Time and time again she just ignores it, and just rages on, copying and pasting anti-gun propaganda from other websites.

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@firefly,

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Do you know how many people in this country are wounded or killed by guns every day?

This line doesnt help your case at all.
If you change the word guns to automobiles, a good case could be made for banning automobiles, or at least the people driving them, since its the drivers that have the accidents.

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@BillRM,

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Second, if you wished to reduce all violence including so call gun violence in the US and a large percent of the rest of the world with special note of Mexico stopped funding drug gangs.

I'm glad there is finally some action in Congress to address our problem with gun violence. They are doing exactly what I want to see them doing with the new congressional task force.

Why don't you write to your member of Congress and express your concern about Mexico funding drug gangs. Maybe they'll address your issues too.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Yo German, if you didn't get the memo, laws are already setup to to regulate guns in America. All we need is stricter enforcement of such laws, and not turn a blind eye in some instances, or let things "slide" in some instances. With a stricter enforcement of the laws already setup in place, it will be harder for criminals or someone with an evil intent to slip through the cracks.

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@firefly,

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I think the new congressional task force includes many sane gun owners, who realize that better regulation and control, to help prevent and reduce gun violence, doesn't mean they are coming to take your guns away.

I think that no law is going to stop anyone who is willing to break those laws from getting firearms as license gun dealers are only now part of the total trade in firearms even adding in gun shows.

Two of my firearms was picked up over the years in sales between friends and two was pass on to me due to deaths in the family.

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@Walter Hinteler,

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Or a whiskey to be drunken,

They tried banning that once, it was called prohibition.
It led to a massive increase in crime, much of it by people trying to control the illegal whiskey trade.
Once prohibition was repealed, the violence reduced.

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a joint to be smoked, cocaine to be sniffed. No-one would get the idea to regulate such. Really, no-one ...

And how has regulating these drugs helped?
Drug violence is huge, with people fighting for control of drug markets, and people committing crimes so they can get more drugs.

So if you want to use those examples to show how regulating something helps, you need to get better examples, because the examples you cited show the exact opposite of what you are trying to prove.

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@Val Killmore,

Val,
At least try to be polite.
His name is Walter, not German.

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@firefly,

Sorry dear but my position on the so call war on drug have been a very public matter since 1972 when I told a federal judge in open court that I could not be a juror in a marijuana case as I did not believe in such laws and would not convict anyone under them.

An fine example of laws that cause far far far more harm then good including violences gun and otherwise on our streets and other countries including Mexico.

But then you do not have any real concerns about violences the whole issue is a false flag issue to you in order to attacked gun ownerhip.

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@mysteryman,

If you had read what I quoted, mm, and noticed that I responded just and only to that quote, perhaps your answer would have been different.

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@Val Killmore,

Val Killmore wrote:

Yo German, ...

Yo US-American, since I post under my real name, you can use it.

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@mysteryman,

Well, actually, he could have used Hun, Fritz, Nazi, Kraut ... So, he's at least geographically correct.

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@Walter Hinteler,

Is it wrong to call someone by their Nationalität?
You can call me "US-American" all you want German, I really don't mind.

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@Val Killmore,

Val Killmore wrote:

Is it wrong to call someone by their Nationalität?

If you want to use the German word for nationality, it would be Staatsangehörigkeit.

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@Walter Hinteler,

...or Nationalität.
Anyway what's your point? What are you trying to prove?

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@firefly,

That's how I remember sunny South Florida

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@Region Philbis,

FA & RP, the two of you are minor league bat boys.

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@Val Killmore,

Val Killmore wrote:

I've told firefly a countless times that if one want to get to the heart of the matter, start with the human, not with the object that humans use to commit an action or inaction. For example, support and "demand a plan" to bring into effect better mental health programs and better social programs to decline poverty levels, harsher sentencing guidelines on people for committing crimes with guns or using guns irresponsibly, etc. Time and time again she just ignores it, and just rages on, copying and pasting anti-gun propaganda from other websites.

You've led that nag to water many times, but she refuses to drink.

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@Val Killmore,

Nothing. I just wanted to be helpful. Because there's a difference in German between Nationalität and Staatsbürgerschaft. (Like: someone with Russian Nationalität has the German Staatsbürgerschaft ... .)

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@H2O MAN,

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You've led that nag to water many times, but she refuses to drink

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Hell what do you expect from someone that even support the government telling you how large of a soda container you can order. She see government as a mother to us poor dumb citizens and mom does not wish us to have guns or large soda containers.

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