The real reason why Dec 7 is a day of infamy

@JTT,

I guess "Coward" is the pejorative of the month on JTT's calendar.

@mysteryman,

I'm still waiting for you to describe something good that the US has done, MM. I even started a thread for you. You do as you always do when you're struck by cognitive dissonance, you flee or you begin to parados.

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@parados,

Throughout the world, on any given day, a man, woman or child is likely to be displaced, tortured, killed or "disappeared", at the hands of governments or armed political groups. More often than not, the United States shares the blame."

Amnesty International, in its annual report on U.S. military aid and human rights

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@joefromchicago,

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JTT wrote:
Japan had valid reasons to attack the US.

What were those reasons?

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@joefromchicago,

What on earth are you so worried about this one little thing, Joe, when you've got FDR knowing full well about Pearl Harbor, sacrificing innocents and US treasure to start a war?

Why are you so concerned about this one little issue when you have people constantly advancing lies about the US?

Why are you so concerned about this one little issue when you have your president committing ongoing crimes against humanity, when you have your government planning and committing acts of terrorism against innocents around the world?

Could it be that you are just another BillRM, a Gob1, a Setanta, a Parados, a WandelJW, a Cycloptichorn, a ... trying to provide cover for US war crimes and US terrorism?

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@JTT,

Why can't you answer the question?

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@JTT,

JTT wrote:

I'm still waiting for you to describe something good that the US has done, MM. I even started a thread for you. You do as you always do when you're struck by cognitive dissonance, you flee or you begin to parados.

May I answer teacher? I think the US has offered the world a role model to show how people can live better under democratic capitalism, than socialism, communism, a despot, or a theocracy. And, when I say live better, I do not just mean bigger cars, or more food, but also the opportunity for one-half the population (women) to function as independent individuals, and not have to pander to the male ego, in order to have a worthwhile, productive life.

Even in many western countries women are careful not to antagonize the male ego, since so much of a women's life is dictated by a society where men rule.

In effect, the brainwashing in so many countries limits women from utilizing their intelligence. A bigger crime, in my opinion, than the harping by some people about the crimes of the US. It is just from whose perspective, I guess. Especially, if one might not even recognize female submissiveness as a crime.

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@joefromchicago,

You want me to answer your questions without extending the same courtesy to me? No, I'm afraid we can't proceed on that basis. As long as you selectively quote from my posts and ignore my questions, I have no problem doing the same with yours.

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@Foofie,

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I think the US has offered the world a role model to show how people can live better under democratic capitalism, than socialism, communism, a despot, or a theocracy.

You are being willfully ignorant, Foofie. The US has shown nothing of the kind. The US has used its massive propaganda machine, helped along by ignorant people like you to create the world's largest Potemkin village.

All this was done so that the US could rape and pillage innocent and poor countries around the world. The US doesn't give a **** about women and women's rights. The US has abused, tortured, raped and murdered not only women, but men and children, young and old, all done to steal their wealth.

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@joefromchicago,

After listening to JTT's response to Foofie...even if he/she finally works up the guts and character to answer your question, Joe...I doubt it will make any sense.

I am sure you...and all of us following your repeated question...realize there is no reasonable answer to the question, which undoubtedly is why he/she is ducking it.

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@JTT,

JTT wrote:

You want me to answer your questions without extending the same courtesy to me? No, I'm afraid we can't proceed on that basis. As long as you selectively quote from my posts and ignore my questions, I have no problem doing the same with yours.

I think we have already established you never asked Joe a question prior to his asking you one. Arguing he has to answer your question first seems a little rude since he asked the first question.

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@JTT,

What question do you want me to answer?

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@parados,

I know that I have established that you don't have the foggiest notion about which you speak but still you go on.

Par for the course.

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@Frank Apisa,

Throughout the world, on any given day, a man, woman or child is likely to be displaced, tortured, killed or "disappeared", at the hands of governments or armed political groups. More often than not, the United States shares the blame."

Amnesty International, in its annual report on U.S. military aid and human rights

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@JTT,

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Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5252955)
Throughout the world, on any given day, a man, woman or child is likely to be displaced, tortured, killed or "disappeared", at the hands of governments or armed political groups. More often than not, the United States shares the blame."

Amnesty International, in its annual report on U.S. military aid and human rights

On any given day...some people are going to be born...and some are going to die.

Anyway...how about that question you have for Joe???

We really want to hear it.

And with that out of the way...we can hear your answer to Joe's question.

We all want to hear that.

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@Frank Apisa,

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Churchill wrote in his Nobel Prize winning series on WWII that FDR knew about the Japanese plans to attack Pearl Harbor. The following is from pages 602-603 of THE GRAND ALLIANCE, c1950.

Churchill makes these points about his good friend and colleague FDR, accusing him of treason while knowing that the facts would eventually come out:

1. Hawaii's commanders did not get proper warning.
2. Churchill was not going to judge what FDR did at Pearl Harbor.
3. FDR and he were very afraid that the US could not come into the war unless Japan attacked the U.S.
4. Pearl Harbor was worth the price.
5. FDR "knew the full and immediate purpose" of the Japanese at Pearl Harbor.
6. FDR welcomed the attack.
7. And this amazing statement: "Nor must we allow the account in detail of diplomatic interchanges to portray Japan as an injured innocent..." That is an admission, granted forced by the facts, that Japan WAS the injured innocent, maneuvered into firing the first shot, as Secretary of War Stimson put it. Cabinet Minister Sir Oliver Lyttelton, expressed the same point on June 20, 1944, to the American Chamber of Commerce: "Japan was provoked into attacking the Americans at Pearl Harbor. It is a travesty on history ever to say that America was forced into the war. Everyone knows where American sympathies were. It is incorrect to say that America was ever truly neutral even before America came into the war on a fighting basis."

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@JTT,

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Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5253675)
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Churchill wrote in his Nobel Prize winning series on WWII that FDR knew about the Japanese plans to attack Pearl Harbor. The following is from pages 602-603 of THE GRAND ALLIANCE, c1950.

Churchill makes these points about his good friend and colleague FDR, accusing him of treason while knowing that the facts would eventually come out:

1. Hawaii's commanders did not get proper warning.
2. Churchill was not going to judge what FDR did at Pearl Harbor.
3. FDR and he were very afraid that the US could not come into the war unless Japan attacked the U.S.
4. Pearl Harbor was worth the price.
5. FDR "knew the full and immediate purpose" of the Japanese at Pearl Harbor.
6. FDR welcomed the attack.
7. And this amazing statement: "Nor must we allow the account in detail of diplomatic interchanges to portray Japan as an injured innocent..." That is an admission, granted forced by the facts, that Japan WAS the injured innocent, maneuvered into firing the first shot, as Secretary of War Stimson put it. Cabinet Minister Sir Oliver Lyttelton, expressed the same point on June 20, 1944, to the American Chamber of Commerce: "Japan was provoked into attacking the Americans at Pearl Harbor. It is a travesty on history ever to say that America was forced into the war. Everyone knows where American sympathies were. It is incorrect to say that America was ever truly neutral even before America came into the war on a fighting basis."

Ummm...and your point is??????

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@Frank Apisa,

If, by the way, that is your response to Joe...you should have directed it to him. If you did, however, he is going to have a ball taking your initial statement apart.

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@Frank Apisa,

[Delusional Frank avoids yet again.]

If that was my response to Joe, I would address it to Joe, you doofus. Nancy must be a saint to put up with your disjointed ramblings.

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@JTT,

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Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5253742)
[Delusional Frank avoids yet again.]

If that was my response to Joe, I would address it to Joe, you doofus. Nancy must be a saint to put up with your disjointed ramblings.

Nancy is a saint.

Are you going to explain what that last post was about????

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