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The real reason why Dec 7 is a day of infamy

 
 
Mame
 
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Thu 13 Dec, 2012 12:50 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

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I happen to agree with you about US brutality abroad. I have never said anything about the subject on here, but I completely agree.


That is astounding, Mame, simply astounding. Why would you not ever say anything? Do you understand that it is much much worse than "brutality"?
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What do you expect me to do about it? Why would I say anything? I don't have to say or do anything just because you think I do or should do. I was horrified and outraged when I read about the US in South America, many years ago. Ditto with Cuba. Ditto with many countries. But I am not inclined to DO or SAY anything about it. They're my personal opinions and I'm not motivated to try to educate or change anyone's mind. That appears to be your self-appointed job.

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However, the US is not the only country which has done so or which is still doing so,


JTT wrote:

That is a terribly, terribly lame excuse. By your reasoning, every rapist/murderer should get off because they can point to another rapist/murderer.


It's not an excuse - just pointing out that many other countries have brutalized other people and I wonder why you only talk about the United States. I know you think the US is the worst.

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... and your constant posts and threads about the US gets on my nerves.


Poor little dear. When I compare your nerves and the millions of lives, of real people, Mame, I'm afraid that your nerves are of little concern to me.

Really? And what, besides going on rants on A2K are YOU doing about it?


Why do you get yourself all in a tizzy about a women getting raped but you give a free pass to those who not only rape, they cut off the women's breasts, in front of the womens' children. They torture whole families, then murder them. These are people who are the equivalent of the Founding Fathers. These are friends of US administrations.

I don't recall getting into a tizzy about women being raped, JTT.

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You insert your opinions on this subject everywhere, including threads which have nothing to do with it.


This is patently unfair. If you have a real concern, raise it at the time of your concern.

If I did, it'd be all I'd do all day. Don't have the time or energy for that.


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What do you expect to gain from this constant harassment?


"harassment"? You can harass war criminals/terrorists and those that provide cover and support for them. That's simply not possible, Mame.

You're harassing us with your incessant and repetitive harangues. We either agree or we don't. There's no point stating the obvious over and over again. That's not an effective way of convincing people; all you're doing is irritating them. Why don't you just state what you want from people here? Do you want us to agree? Let's say everybody stepped up and agreed with you. What then? Would you go away? Change the subject? What? What is it you're after?


Consider all the ignorant adults who tried throughout that thread to steer the discussion away from that very specific topic. I don't recall you stepping in and setting them straight. There was no one who stepped in and set them straight but this bit of nonsense gets raised in equal measure with 'troll', ... .



People are just sick and tired of the repetitious nature of your posts - they're trying to avoid you, perhaps. Why would I step in and set anyone straight? It's none of my business what they think, and I couldn't care less. Why is it my job to 'set them straight'? Who cares what they think? Why do you care? If you really cared about setting them straight, you might be a bit more polite and less confrontational, condescending, patronizing (I know, same thing, but it bears repeating), and such a dickwad about it.
mysteryman
 
  3  
Thu 13 Dec, 2012 07:10 pm
@joefromchicago,
I am waiting also. I would love to see jtt explain how Japan was justified in committing war crimes.
After all, jtt said that ANY act of aggression against a sovereign nation was a war crime.
So, that means that jtt thinks that Japan was justified in committing war crimes.
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JTT
 
  -2  
Thu 13 Dec, 2012 08:08 pm
Pearl Harbor was NOT a Surprise Attack - part 5 of 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFECm5lq100

Pearl Harbor was NOT a Surprise Attack - part 6 of 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivaF8B2FGvQ

Pearl Harbor was NOT a Surprise Attack - part 7 of 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipENUyEsTdQ

Pearl Harbor was NOT a Surprise Attack - part 8 of 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8MZyCZt28Y

mysteryman
 
  3  
Thu 13 Dec, 2012 08:25 pm
@JTT,
Why are you avoiding answering any questions.

Do you believe Japan was justified in attacking the US?
And how do you reconcile that belief with your statement about aggression against sovereign nations being a war crime?

Those are very simple questions, you should be able to answer them.
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Frank Apisa
 
  3  
Thu 13 Dec, 2012 08:45 pm
@JTT,
Ummm...since the Japanese ambassador was to deliver a declaration of war an hour before the attack...

...and since the Japanese did everything in their power to hide their intentions and their maneuvers...

...do you honestly think the Japanese did not think it WAS a surprise attack...

...AND DON'T YOU THINK THAT SHOULD COUNT FOR SOMETHING?
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Frank Apisa
 
  3  
Thu 13 Dec, 2012 08:53 pm
@JTT,
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Pearl Harbor was NOT a Surprise Attack - part 5 of 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFECm5lq100

Pearl Harbor was NOT a Surprise Attack - part 6 of 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivaF8B2FGvQ

Pearl Harbor was NOT a Surprise Attack - part 7 of 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipENUyEsTdQ

Pearl Harbor was NOT a Surprise Attack - part 8 of 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8MZyCZt28Y


Do you think the attack was NOT A SURPRISE to the men who died on the Arizona and Oklahoma...

...AND DO YOU NOT THINK THAT SHOULD COUNT???
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Frank Apisa
 
  3  
Thu 13 Dec, 2012 08:54 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
Pearl Harbor was NOT a Surprise Attack - part 5 of 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFECm5lq100

Pearl Harbor was NOT a Surprise Attack - part 6 of 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivaF8B2FGvQ

Pearl Harbor was NOT a Surprise Attack - part 7 of 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipENUyEsTdQ

Pearl Harbor was NOT a Surprise Attack - part 8 of 8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8MZyCZt28Y


Do you think it was NOT a surprise attack to the men and women killed at Hickam Field...

...and do you think that should matter?
JTT
 
  -2  
Sun 16 Dec, 2012 11:30 am
@Frank Apisa,
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Do you think it was NOT a surprise attack to the men and women killed at Hickam Field...

...and do you think that should matter?


That's a question better addressed to your "leaders", Frank, one of the major duped, Apisa.
JTT
 
  -2  
Sun 16 Dec, 2012 11:33 am
@JTT,
Here's a good example of that, Frank. It's truly unbelievable how y'all can ignore the truth that sits so clearly right in front of your collective noses.


http://wpcomics.washingtonpost.com/client/wpc/db/2012/12/08/
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JTT
 
  -2  
Sun 16 Dec, 2012 11:42 am
@Mame,
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What do you expect me to do about it? Why would I say anything?


Why indeed?

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I don't have to say or do anything just because you think I do or should do.


That's pretty silly, Mame. Is this your idea of an argument? I've never suggested that the reason you should do it. It's simply what a moral person would do.

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I was horrified and outraged when I read about the US in South America, many years ago. Ditto with Cuba. Ditto with many countries. But I am not inclined to DO or SAY anything about it.


You were horrified and outraged, it still goes on daily, but you're "not inclined to DO or SAY anything about it".

Oooooookay.

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They're my personal opinions and I'm not motivated to try to educate or change anyone's mind.


You sure were motivated about educating folks with those silly prescriptions. But people being slaughtered, well, not so much.

Just keep reassuring your lunch dates, Mame. That way, you can keep your social calendar full.

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That appears to be your self-appointed job.


Then stop with your self-serving ditsy excuses. Millions have died, Mame, millions still live with horrible, horrible memories that make US self induced horrors looks like a day at the playground.
mysteryman
 
  4  
Sun 16 Dec, 2012 02:29 pm
@JTT,
Do you ever plan to answer the questions I asked you, or do you plan on avoiding the issue?
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Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 16 Dec, 2012 03:01 pm
@JTT,
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Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5194299)
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Do you think it was NOT a surprise attack to the men and women killed at Hickam Field...

...and do you think that should matter?


That's a question better addressed to your "leaders", Frank, one of the major duped, Apisa.


Actually, JTT, it is a pretty good question to ask of you.

I'm not surprised you did not answer it.
Lustig Andrei
 
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Sun 16 Dec, 2012 03:07 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

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Do you think it was NOT a surprise attack to the men and women killed at Hickam Field...

...and do you think that should matter?


That's a question better addressed to your "leaders", Frank, one of the major duped, Apisa.


How'd I miss this, when first it was posted? That's one of the most outrageous cop-outs I've ever seen on A2k. You're asked a legitimate question and you simply pass the buck. Lovely. Cowardly, but lovely.
Frank Apisa
 
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Sun 16 Dec, 2012 04:04 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
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Re: JTT (Post 5196782)
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JTT wrote:

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Do you think it was NOT a surprise attack to the men and women killed at Hickam Field...

...and do you think that should matter?



That's a question better addressed to your "leaders", Frank, one of the major duped, Apisa.


How'd I miss this, when first it was posted? That's one of the most outrageous cop-outs I've ever seen on A2k. You're asked a legitimate question and you simply pass the buck. Lovely. Cowardly, but lovely.


Thank you, Lustig. Somehow, I doubt JTT will ever really answer that question.
Lustig Andrei
 
  4  
Sun 16 Dec, 2012 04:29 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:
Somehow, I doubt JTT will ever really answer that question.


I never expect JTT to give a straight answer to anything. There's a major disconnect in her ability to think clearly or reply logically. Her specialty is ranting and raving with no rhyme nor reason behind it.
mysteryman
 
  3  
Sun 16 Dec, 2012 05:50 pm
@Lustig Andrei,
JTT said that the Japanese on Pearl Harbor attack was justified, but JTT also claims that any attack on a sovereign nation is a war crime.

All I want to know is does that mean JTT thinks Japan was justified in committing war crimes, or does JTT think that there are certain justifications for war crimes in general.

JTT refuses to answer that.
Lustig Andrei
 
  4  
Sun 16 Dec, 2012 06:10 pm
@mysteryman,
Of course JTT refuses to answer that, mm. It would force her to think.
JTT
 
  -2  
Sun 16 Dec, 2012 06:16 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Of course you think it's a good question, Frank. It helps you divert attention away from the issues that you can't face. It's amazing that you three, of all people, think I am avoiding anything.

When I reply, it'll be more of the same from the delusional three.
JTT
 
  -2  
Sun 16 Dec, 2012 06:18 pm
@Frank Apisa,
But why ask me, Frank. Don't you want to know why your government, of course you were only a little fart at the time, hung all those servicemen out to dry?
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Lustig Andrei
 
  4  
Sun 16 Dec, 2012 06:46 pm
@JTT,
You're a hoot, JTT, you really are. You provide me with more amusement than any TV show ever could. Your twisting, turning and posturing are classic!
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