H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 23 Oct, 2012 02:05 pm

How can the left defend 4 Americans being murdered
in a terrorists attack that Obama is trying to cover up?

Who is Obama protecting and why is the left protecting Obama?
izzythepush
 
  2  
Reply Tue 23 Oct, 2012 02:21 pm
@H2O MAN,
How can you continually misunderstand everything?
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H2O MAN
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 23 Oct, 2012 02:23 pm
How can you defend Obama when he has blood on his hands?
izzythepush
 
  3  
Reply Tue 23 Oct, 2012 03:17 pm
@H2O MAN,
You live in a bizarre fantasy world where Hermain Cain is presidential material. Your judgement and understanding are severely flawed, and you have no concept of reality whatsoever.

Your bumperstickeresque posts are nothing more than the hysterical rants of a lunatic.

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H2O MAN
 
  0  
Reply Tue 23 Oct, 2012 03:19 pm


It's no fantasy world that has Obama defeated by Romney this November, it's reality.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  2  
Reply Tue 23 Oct, 2012 08:31 pm
@H2O MAN,
The latest is that the State Department sent an estimated 300 to 400 e-mails, within hours of the attack on the consulate, to national security figures (Wanna bet the the president and vice-president were included) noting that Ansar al Sharia (an organization declared by the State Department to be a an Al Qaeda-affiliated group) had already claimed responsibility.

The government followed the attack, in real time, for seven hours and did nothing to come to the aid of our people.

They had a drone buzz the scene, but either it wasn't armed or there was no order to engage.

Obama made a big deal out of how he "immediately" ordered measures taken to protect our diplomatic staff in neighboring countries, but he did nothing for seven hours for the folks who were actually taking fire.

Maybe there is a rational explanation for what appears to be a major fubar, but shouldn't the president tell the American people what it is?

Instead he perpetuated the bullshit that we didn't know it was a terrorist attack and blaming a mob that never existed reacting to a video that never really mattered.

Meanwhile the producer of the video is still in jail!

The head of the organization that killed our people is drinking strawberry frappes in downtown Beghazi with a NYT reporter, but the video producer is in jail.

Good God!

parados
 
  1  
Reply Tue 23 Oct, 2012 09:00 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:



The government followed the attack, in real time, for seven hours and did nothing to come to the aid of our people.
Really? I guess if Obama really cared he would have had the Marine base just down the street walk up the block and see what they could do but since he didn't do that he must have done nothing for seven hours.

Or maybe Benghazi is not within an hour of any response by US forces. But that wouldn't fit your idiotic rant, would it?
Quote:

They had a drone buzz the scene, but either it wasn't armed or there was no order to engage.
1. Not all drones are armed. In fact most aren't. 2. There is no evidence that the US has ever had an armed drone in Libya.

Quote:

Obama made a big deal out of how he "immediately" ordered measures taken to protect our diplomatic staff in neighboring countries, but he did nothing for seven hours for the folks who were actually taking fire.
It's rather easy to shut down embassies that aren't under attack. It's rather hard to send troops to a place that is hours away from any response.
Quote:

Maybe there is a rational explanation for what appears to be a major fubar, but shouldn't the president tell the American people what it is?

Perhaps you should look at a map of Libya Finn.
Here's driving directions for Tripoli to Benghazi
Driving from Tripoli to Benghazi - 400 miles
Or were you expecting the US to send war planes into foreign airspace without clearance?
Quote:

Instead he perpetuated the bullshit that we didn't know it was a terrorist attack and blaming a mob that never existed reacting to a video that never really mattered.
And you perpetrate a myth that somehow Obama could have ordered a response to Benghazi in a short time without any evidence of where you think that response was suppose to arrive from. Perhaps you could tell us where you think US troops were stationed that could have responded in the time frame you wish and how you propose to get them there without creating an international incident.

Quote:

Good God!



Yeah, that pretty much sums up how stupid your statements look under examination.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
  2  
Reply Tue 23 Oct, 2012 09:03 pm
One has to sadly laugh at the criticisim of Mitt Romney (coming from the Left as well as the Right) for not pressing Obama on Benghazi last night.

Is that where we are now?

It's the job of the president's political opponent to press him on a foreign policy scandal and not the 4th Estate's?

I keep waiting for for some young idealistic journalist who believes in the integrity of his profession and its duty to police our government to say politics be damned, I'm chasing the story.

Problem is that if he or she exists, the Editors of his paper or network are old school Liberals and will tamp them down.

We need (and may have with Benghazi) a governmental scandal that the MSM comes so late to that they have made absolute fools of themselves and percipitate major purges at editorial levels.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Reply Wed 24 Oct, 2012 01:38 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
You just make this up as you go along don't you Finn? The Salafist militia was kicked out of Benghazi a few weeks ago by a group of angry residents and police.

When profoundly ignorant people like Romney and yourself wade into the Middle East with your simplistic solutions you make matters a lot worse. Bush didn't even know that there was a difference between Sunni and Shia before invading Iraq. And he was so stupid he didn't even plan for a post conflict Iran believing that the allies would be treated as liberators. That's how much of a stupid moron he is.

It was obvious to anyone who doesn't struggle with pronouns that invading Iraq would make Iran a lot more powerful. In the same way Romney's desire to attack Iran will make Saudi Arabia, with its Wahhabist brand of Islam, very powerful. It already controls most of the oil in the region, and its foreign policy is dependent on the whim of an autocratic monarch.

At the moment the West's policy on Iran is producing results, the regime is under pressure, and there's conflict between the president and the ayatollah. If an idiot like Romney gets in all that will vanish in an instant. The last time the American people elected an idiot we had 9/11, Iraq and Afghanistan. In the UK we had our troops involved in an illegal (and undemocratic) war in Iraq. Our country used for illegal acts of extraordinary rendition and we had the 7/7 terrorist attack. I shudder to think what will happen if they elect another moron.
H2O MAN
 
  -2  
Reply Wed 24 Oct, 2012 06:55 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Yep, it turns out president Obama knew the details of the terrorists
attack within two hours of when it started and he did NOTHING!

Obama had all sorts of options that could have changed the
course of events that were unfolding, but he chose to do NOTHING!

The blood of the 4 Americans murdered by these Muslim terrorists is on Obama's hands.



Finn dAbuzz wrote:

The latest is that the State Department sent an estimated 300 to 400 e-mails, within hours of the attack on the consulate, to national security figures (Wanna bet the the president and vice-president were included) noting that Ansar al Sharia (an organization declared by the State Department to be a an Al Qaeda-affiliated group) had already claimed responsibility.

...

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parados
 
  2  
Reply Wed 24 Oct, 2012 06:56 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:

We need (and may have with Benghazi) a governmental scandal that the MSM comes so late to that they have made absolute fools of themselves and percipitate major purges at editorial levels.

I'll tell you what Finn. I guarantee that if Romney is elected that the GOP drops the investigation of Benghazi and if Obama is reelected they will find nothing and much of what they have claimed so far will turn out to be false.
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H2O MAN
 
  -2  
Reply Wed 24 Oct, 2012 07:28 am


Reuters
White House told of militant claim two hours after Libya attack: emails


CBS
Emails detail unfolding Benghazi attack on Sept. 11


CNN
E-mails: White House knew of extremist claims in Benghazi attack


revelette
 
  3  
Reply Wed 24 Oct, 2012 08:46 am
@H2O MAN,
From your link

Quote:
Fourteen hours after the attack, President Obama sat down with Steve Kroft of "60 Minutes" for a previously scheduled interview and said he did not believe it was simply due to mob violence.


"You're right that this is not a situation that was -- exactly the same as what happened in Egypt and my suspicion is that there are folks involved in this who were looking to target Americans from the start," Mr. Obama said.

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Finn dAbuzz
 
  2  
Reply Wed 24 Oct, 2012 02:25 pm
@izzythepush,
What the hell are talking about?

What did I "make up?"
izzythepush
 
  0  
Reply Wed 24 Oct, 2012 03:51 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
How about the strawberry frappes in Benghazi for starters?
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JTT
 
  1  
Reply Wed 24 Oct, 2012 08:27 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
I shudder to think what will happen if they elect another moron.


When it's a Repuglican, being a moron is a given.
izzythepush
 
  0  
Reply Thu 25 Oct, 2012 01:22 am
@JTT,
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/10/23/1351012295488/Steve-Bell-23.10.2012-002.jpg
izzythepush
 
  0  
Reply Thu 25 Oct, 2012 01:29 am
@JTT,
From yesterday's Guardian.

Quote:
Whoever runs Washington heads a global empire. American politics affects people's lives in every part of the world, often as a matter of life or death. So it's scarcely surprising that more than 40% of those polled around the world say they want the right to vote in US presidential elections.

After all, the American revolution was fought on the slogan of "no taxation without representation". So long as the US government arrogates to itself the right to impose its "leadership" by force across the world, a contemporary version of the colonists' demand might be: "no global power without accountability".

And with George Bush's blood-drenched presidency still fresh in the memory, it's only to be expected that 81% want to see the less belligerent Barack Obama re-elected. Only in Pakistan, target of relentless civilian-slaughtering US drone attacks, do a larger number prefer his Republican opponent, Mitt Romney.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/oct/23/better-us-scale-back-global-empire?INTCMP=SRCH
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JTT
 
  1  
Reply Thu 25 Oct, 2012 08:04 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Quote:
What did I "make up?"


From having read a number of your posts, I'd have to say pretty much everything.
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JTT
 
  1  
Reply Thu 25 Oct, 2012 08:43 pm
@izzythepush,
Your zero means that some American or combination of Americans don't like the truth put in front of them. But hey, Izzy, there's nothing new about that.

It must be difficult coming to grips with the fact that everything they were ever told about their government, their system of government, is a big lie.
 

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