Is this a specious argument for pro-abortion?

Are you in favour of legalising prostitution?

And to drug use.

Why is it not a woman's free choice to be a prostitute?

Or to have four 18 year old footballers round for a bit of fun

Sorry Frank-- the previous post had slipped by my attention. Time zones. I would have been in the charp pit at the time and on resurfacing the thread had moved on.

I think my answer was reasonable but I also think the offence is against womanhood and femininity. And I think those involved know that which is why the practice is surrounded by secrecy, veils and shame.

Did you notice the word "entire" in my post relating to whether anyone dare ask their parent/s whether they had debated whether to off them. If I was 20 now I think the question might enter my head. Would it not yours if you was 20? And if so would you ask?

I don't need to.

Are you in favour of legalising prostitution?
All the arguments you make apply to prostitution. And to drug use.

Spend you mean to tell me all this time and you never read my posts on the topic of prostitution or drugs?

I am in favor of both being legal. If we made prostitution legal, women would probably stop walking the streets because businesses would open. (essentially brothels). The women can be regulated, checked for diseases and the guys can be monitored so the women are not harmed.

As it currently is, women who prostitute themselves are at the mercy of their customers. There are thousands of prostitutes who are murdered because they don't have a safe environment to work in.

Not only that but man women look for pimps for a sense of protection and often times get wrapped up in drug use because these guys know that addictions fuel prostitution. Get them hooked on a drug and they will keep turning out customers which makes them more money. If prostitution were legalized it would be much safer for everyone including the clients. Because std and aid testing could be mandatory.

As far as drugs go. I think all of them should be legalized. Once you do this businesses like liquor stores would open up to provide drugs to the community. They would become more safe and cleaner. Drugs like crank would go away because they are inferior products. People would much rather have cocaine. The price would also drop if it were legal. You would also take money out of the hands of thugs and gangsters who create a lot of street violence. The reason there are gang violence is almost always related to drug selling turf.

If you legalize drugs many crimes including property crimes would reduce or completely go away because the price of drugs would dramatically come down and be more affordable. This is something that many people don't understand. The reason drugs are expensive is because there is a high risk involved in trafficking them. To make it worth their time and risk, they need to make more money for it. As soon as they are legal the price would drop because there is no risk.

Not only that but the war on drugs would go away. Cops will stop dying in drug related raids.
Tax money can be spend on drug abuse education instead of paying to try and keep dealers off the streets.

Why is it not a woman's free choice to be a prostitute?
Or to have four 18 year old footballers round for a bit of fun when the husband and kids are away?

It should be their choice.

I didn't ask what the situation is. I know that.

There's a lady a Texas court has recently sentenced to 5 years, despite her having 3 young kids, for having 4 18 year-old footballers round for a bit of fun while her family was away and I have been defending her.

Where were you?

There's a lady a Texas court has recently sentenced to 5 years, despite her having 3 young kids, for having 4 18 year-old footballers round for a bit of fun while her family was away and I have been defending her.

Just to be perfectly clear Foofie I did not, repeat not, write-

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f the fetus can not survive on it's own outside the womb then it does not qualify as a human with rights. If it dependent upon the mother's body to develop and survive then it should be at the mercy of the mother's wishes. Simple and fair.

Nor would I ever have done or will do.

Krumpie is confusing wishes, engineered, mainly by Media, with instincts. She has to either deny instincts or, if accepting them, to deny harmful results from thwarting them.

Foofie wrote:

That is why abortion should be a crime.

If you make abortion illegal all you will end up doing is shifting where the crime happens.

You guys should talk to some women in China. Abortion is so common and it isn't even a politically conflicting subject. Women admit they have abortion in their past as if it was nothing more than a visit to the dentist. Then again they have overpopulation problem and weird government propaganda, which I wonder how it's coming along with the movement of sexual revolution that started about a decade ago.

There is no movement that is "pro-abortion". That suggests an encouragement to abort. That is why it is called "Pro-choice". I know a girl who was conceived from a rape. She was not made aware of this fact until well into her adulthood. Children generally want to know that they are conceived voluntarily and deliberately. Those who are not (including those who are adopted) end up with psychological problems especially with commitment and abandonment. Some people simply cannot and would not ever have an abortion. Some who have an abortion experience guilt, regret and sincerely wish they had not made the decision to abort. It's a very, very personal and individual experience. We cannot prevent 100% of unwanted pregnancies (rape for ex.). No matter how good the adopted parents of a child are there is always a hole that never gets filled due to the "abandonment" of the birth parents. If I had been adopted I would feel so horrible knowing that my mother I grew inside abandoned me for any reason because I would love my mother and would never want to be a burden. I do know several people who were adopted at birth that are very psychologically disturbed. Thousands live happy and fulfilling lives on the other hand. Becoming pregnant during a rape is the only way to understand why you might want to abort. Unless of course you are very, very empathetic.

It would never have entered my head as a young man to ask a woman if she had had an abortion. If I was young now it certainly would enter my head. And if I was informed that she had had an abortion all my interest in her would vanish on the instant.

we would be opening up a can of worms regarding women and whether they tend to have too many maudlin emotions.

If you already knew the answer,
why did you ask the question?

Krumple wrote:

Foofie wrote:

That is why abortion should be a crime.

If you make abortion illegal all you will end up doing is shifting where the crime happens.

So, you admit it can be considered a crime,
regardless if it is presently legal.

So, you admit it can be considered a crime, regardless if it is presently legal.

Either the fetus dies or the mother dies. Take your pick.