28
   

Republican Senate Nominee: "Legitimate" rape victims don't get pregnant

 
 
spendius
 
  1  
Fri 7 Sep, 2012 03:08 pm
@JPB,
It's got me stumped JP. I could have some thoughts on the matter I suppose but I suspect you would think them a bit far-fetched.
JPB
 
  1  
Fri 7 Sep, 2012 03:25 pm
@spendius,
Yeah, it's purely crystal ball watching. This article is from Aug 23rd after he chose to stay in the race past the voluntary removal deadline.

Quote:
The relevant statute says someone like Mr. Akin can withdraw “pursuant to a court order, which, except for good cause shown by the election authority in opposition thereto, shall be freely given upon application by the candidate to the circuit court in the county of such candidate’s residence.”

Election officials say they can find no precedent at all for such an objection in the state’s history. But Ms. Carnahan is herself a factor in Republican minds. As the Democratic Senate nominee in 2010, she lost to Representative Roy Blunt, and Republicans imagine she could put up a fight.

“The secretary’s job is to protect the rights of Missouri voters,” Ms. Temple said when asked whether Ms. Carnahan would fight a court order to remove Mr. Akin’s name from the ballot.

A further complication: Under state law, any election authority in Missouri can oppose a withdrawal order, down to the county and city level, and there are Democrats aplenty in Missouri. But Ms. Temple added that right now, it would be up to a Missouri court to determine whether Mr. Akin could withdraw, not the secretary of state.

“It’s completely in the hands of the court to decide the facts,” she said.

Assuming Mr. Akin does manage to drop out, the state central committee of the Republican Party in Missouri would have to pick a new candidate within 28 days, or by Oct. 12, whichever comes first. Source


I guess we'll just have to look into our fuzzy crystal balls.
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Tue 25 Sep, 2012 01:52 am
@JPB,
we will know with in hours if this cat keeps his word to thumb his nose at the party elite. reports are that he is negotiating still with some Super Pacs to get political go juice (money) so i am thinking he drops out.

Quote:
MISSOURI: “Written off by many in his own party a mere month ago, Republican Rep. Todd Akin has been slowly rebuilding his Senate campaign after apologizing for inflammatory remarks about pregnancy and rape,” AP writes. “Now Akin is approaching a critical week that could determine whether his re-emerging campaign can gain enough momentum to put Missouri back in the battleground column as Republicans attempt to win control of the Senate from Democrats. Tuesday is the deadline for Akin to get a court order to drop his challenge of Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill. But Akin says he won’t do so. Instead, Akin plans to ramp up his campaign. He’s holding a fundraiser Monday with former Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich. He’s addressing a potentially influential group of pastors Tuesday morning. Then as the drop-out clock ticks down, he’s kicking off a statewide bus tour for his Senate bid that will include venerable conservative activist Phyllis Schlafly.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/24/14066917-downballot-no-signs-of-akin-dropping-out?lite

i am thinking that bus heads to the court house to drop paperwork. not a nice thing to do to Gingrich or Schlafly, but what are there....about 9 people in the country who care if either of these has two beens get humiliated?
hawkeye10
 
  1  
Tue 25 Sep, 2012 02:03 am
@hawkeye10,
sep 7

Quote:
ST. LOUIS, Mo. (KMOX) – Is Republican Senate candidate Todd Akin facing a cash crunch? Todd Akin’s TV ads are reportedly being yanked from stations across the state because his campaign isn’t paying the bills.

KOMU-TV in Columbia says it received half of the payment for an ad buy and when it didn’t get the other half, it cancelled the rest of the ads. The station says it’s confirmed that other stations in St. Louis and Kansas City have been put in the same position.

You’ll recall that after Akin’s controversial comments about rape and abortion, major donors, Super PACs and even the Republican party said they would pull support.

An Akin spokesman told KOMU that it was a scheduling mistake and the final portion of their payments is coming in the mail, so to speak, to most of the stations.

http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2012/09/07/tv-station-pulled-akins-ads-due-to-of-lack-of-payment/

a politician with no money is like a shepherd with no sheep...it just does not work.
0 Replies
 
JPB
 
  2  
Tue 25 Sep, 2012 05:20 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
i am thinking that bus heads to the court house to drop paperwork. not a nice thing to do to Gingrich or Schlafly, but what are there....about 9 people in the country who care if either of these has two beens get humiliated?


Now, there's a trio! Newt, Phyllis, and the religious right. I think he'll stay in. Some folks I know is MO think he'll actually win. McCaskill is very vulnerable in rural MO.
0 Replies
 
BillRM
 
  3  
Wed 26 Sep, 2012 06:02 am
I knew this would happen and did predict it would happen earlier on this very thread.


http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/09/26/2310910/gop-throws-support-to-todd-akin.html

GOP throws support to Todd Akin after withdrawal deadline passes
Republicans in Missouri and across the country started moving back toward supporting Todd Akin's Senate bid as the candidate declared yet again

KANSAS CITY, Mo. — Republicans in Missouri and across the country started moving back toward supporting Todd Akin's Senate bid as the candidate declared yet again Tuesday that he was still in the race.
The Missouri Republican Party, which had been noticeably silent in the weeks after Akin's comments about rape victims, issued a statement Tuesday in which party chairman David Cole declared the party "will do everything we can" to help the six-term U.S. House member from the St. Louis area.
"Just like all our GOP candidates elected in the August primary, the Missouri Republican Party stands behind Congressman Todd Akin in his bid for the United States Senate," Cole said. "We are confident that Todd will defeat (Claire) McCaskill in November."
In August, Cole said in a memo to members of the Republican state committee that Akin's rape comments were "not just a distraction" but "posed a threat to our party's chances of retaking control of the U.S. Senate," and could affect other Missouri races.
Akin's announcement Tuesday came on the final day he could officially withdraw from the race without his name appearing on the Nov. 6 ballot.
On Tuesday evening, Republican Sen. Roy Blunt of Missouri issued a statement saying he'd also work for Akin's election. A month ago Blunt called on Akin to step aside.
Blunt's statement said he and Akin "don't agree on everything, but he and I agree the Senate majority must change."
"I'll be working for the Republican ticket in Missouri, and that includes Todd Akin," Blunt's statement said.
In addition, the independent Freedom's Defense Fund committee announced it was committing $250,000 for TV commercials and other help related to Akin's campaign.
"We're going in here and supporting a very conservative, real conservative guy," committee chairman Michael Centanni said, referring to Akin. "I think a lot of the establishment guys that pulled away from him back in August -- hopefully this will give them a little bit of a nudge."
At a St. Louis news conference earlier in the day, Akin said he was sticking it out against McCaskill, a Democrat. By his own count, Akin said he'd made that statement at least 100 times.
"I have one purpose going into November, and that's replacing Claire McCaskill," Akin said.
Akin emphasized again that voters picked him as the Republican nominee in the August primary.
"I was given a trust -- a trust to replace a senator who had not represented Missouri or our best interests," he said.
The August primary was held before Akin made his highly publicized comments about "legitimate" rape victims having the biological capability to ward off pregnancy. Those comments ignited a national firestorm and calls from the highest reaches of the Republican Party, including GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney, to drop out of the race.
At one point, five current or former Missouri senators -- Blunt, John Ashcroft, Kit Bond, John Danforth and Jim Talent -- all called for Akin to withdraw.
Akin repeatedly rebuffed those calls and now talks in campaign appearances about having the political courage to buck party bosses.
At the end of his news conference, Akin declined to take questions from reporters and immediately boarded a bus for a four-day tour of the state that will bring him to the Kansas City area on Friday.
McCaskill responded Tuesday with a tough new statewide television spot that features Akin's own comments about such hot-button issues as Social Security, Medicare and the minimum wage. In the ad, a narrator states that Akin has declared that he "does not like Social Security" and that Medicare was "unconstitutional."
The ad also pointed out that Akin has said "some rapes are legitimate" and concludes with the narrator saying, "What will he say next?"
During his brief remarks at the news conference, Akin criticized McCaskill for voting for the new federal health care law, which he said 71 percent of Missourians opposed in a statewide vote. He said he received an "A" grade from the National Rifle Association, while McCaskill got an "F."
He added that McCaskill had voted to raise 50 taxes.
"I don't vote to raise our taxes," he said. "It's a clear choice."
Akin acknowledged that he was often asked whether he could beat McCaskill. Some recent polls have showed him trailing by six or more percentage points.
"But there's another question that's more fundamental," Akin said. "That is, what's the right thing to do? There is an amazing correlation. When you do the right thing, you win anyway."
However, Akin's campaign finances are becoming an issue. Several leading GOP fundraisers, including Karl Rove's Crossroads GPS, have declared they will no longer back Akin in the wake of his rape comments.
But last week Republican Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina, who maintains a big war chest, said he was reconsidering the Missouri race and might stand with Akin in the campaign's home stretch.
McCaskill's campaign this week pounded Akin for taking a new position against earmarks as a way to ensure that he would gain DeMint's financial backing. DeMint, along with McCaskill, are prominent earmark opponents.
Earmarks are spending projects that members of Congress can privately insert into appropriations bills.
Akin aide Rick Tyler told the National Journal last week that the candidate had agreed to an earmark ban, even though he had repeatedly requested earmarks during his years in the House.
The McCaskill camp released a web video this week in which Akin is seen defending the use of earmarks over the years.
"It's shocking that Todd Akin's willing to sell his support for an earmark ban, especially after defending the practice in campaign ads just two months ago," said McCaskill spokesman Erik Dorey. "Akin's decision to sell his support for an earmark ban is the kind of Washington politics that Missourians hate."
Akin's camp has defended his position, noting that "Todd's position on earmarks has been clear and consistent, and is not in conflict with Senator DeMint's ban on earmarks." Akin has not elaborated on that stand.
Centanni, from the Freedom's Defense Fund committee, said he made the decision to back Akin after hearing him speak. By law, the committee can't directly coordinate its activities with the Akin campaign.
The group is connected with author Jerome Corsi, who has written articles and books alleging that President Barack Obama isn't a U.S. citizen. Corsi also wrote "Unfit for Command," a book critical of Sen. John Kerry's service in the Vietnam War, during the 2004 presidential election campaign.
Freedom's Defense Fund has raised almost $2.4 million this election cycle but had spent most of it by mid-July, according to Federal Election Commission reports. Centanni said it has about one-third of its $250,000 commitment in the bank and will try to raise the rest in the next six weeks.
In July the committee paid a $3,700 fine for filing inaccurate campaign spending reports in 2008.
Earlier this week, Akin campaigned in St. Louis with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who predicted that Republicans would flock back to Akin in the weeks ahead.
"Republicans across this country understand that Todd Akin is key to our winning control of the Senate," Gingrich said.

Read more here: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2012/09/26/2310910/gop-throws-support-to-todd-akin.html#storylink=cpy
0 Replies
 
JPB
 
  1  
Thu 27 Sep, 2012 09:10 am
flying around the press corp tweets -

Quote:
DeMint's Senate Conservatives Fund says 93% of supporters want to back Akin and they have pledged $290k.
0 Replies
 
revelette
 
  2  
Fri 28 Sep, 2012 11:17 am
Quote:
After Akin declared last month that women cannot get pregnant from “legitimate rape” because “the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down,” nearly every prominent Republican called on the Missouri Republican to drop out, including RNC Chairman Reince Priebus. When a reporter asked him at the Republican National Convention last month whether the party would support Akin even if he didn’t drop out, Priebus was unequivocal: “no, no, no.”


REPORTER: If he stays in, is y’all’s position eventually going to change and you’re going to have to support him?

PRIEBUS: No, no, no. He can be tied, we’re not gonna send him a penny.


Today, after Akin stayed in the race and polls showing it tied, Priebus took a far different tone:


Asked directly if he considered Akin to be a better option for Missouri voters than McCaskill, Priebus did not hesitate.

“Well, absolutely,” he said in the interview. “That’s a given, and as chairman of the party, I have an obligation to make sure we win as many seats in the Senate as possible.”


source

Upside down world when Akins manages to be tied after making those stupid remarks last month.
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Fri 28 Sep, 2012 11:21 am
@revelette,
We can understand the mind-set of the conservatives; party is more important than anything else including religion, ethics, women, minorities, voters, seniors, and the 47%.

What a party! Their crimes against humanity and our democracy are limitless.
JPB
 
  2  
Sat 29 Sep, 2012 09:07 am
Rs from "safe" red states endorsing idiocy in the name of party.
Quote:
Sens. Jim DeMint and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, and Jim Inhofe and Tom Coburn of Oklahoma, are listed as honorary hosts of a Wednesday reception for Akin in Washington. The requested donation is $2,500.

DeMint has previously hinted at the possibility of financial support for Akin, but the participation of the three other senators -- particularly the less stridently conservative Graham -- is a welcome development for Akin as he fights the general election with limited financial support from his national party.

Here's the invitation:

Tom Carpenter, Wexler & Walker Public Policy Associates
Ryan Bradel, Esquire, Greenberg Traurig, LLP
Honorary Hosts
Senator Tom Coburn
Senator Jim DeMint
Senator James Inhofe
Senator Lindsey Graham
Invite you to join them at a Luncheon for
U.S. Representative Todd Akin
Republican Nominee for Missouri U.S. Senate
Wednesday, October 3, 2012
Eastgate
710 East Capitol Street, NE, Washington, DC
Suggested Donations: $2,500—Host $1,000 – PACs $500 – Individual $250 – Young Professionals
Todd Akin for US Senate, PO Box 31222, St. Louis, MO 63131

0 Replies
 
mysteryman
 
  1  
Sat 29 Sep, 2012 04:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
"Crimes against Humanity"?
Isn't that a bit of a stretch, even for you?

Tell me, what "crimes against humanity" are the repubs guilty of?
I assume you mean repubs because you are smart enough to know that conservatives occupy both parties, not just one. And if you seriously meant conservatives, that would also be indicting your party also.

But do you seriously believe that repubs are as guilty as the Nazi regime, or Pol Pot, or the Khmer Rouge, or Idi Amin, or any of the other people in history that have been accused of "crimes against humanity"?
cicerone imposter
 
  3  
Sat 29 Sep, 2012 05:15 pm
@mysteryman,
Voter suppression (crimes against democracy is a crime against humanity), laws to control women's bodies established by men, and the illegal war against Iraq that ended up killing tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis.

JPB
 
  2  
Sun 30 Sep, 2012 06:08 am
Rick is brandishing the R flag and calling out the troops to support Akin. I hope they do. It's the best way to demonstrate that they're more concerned about Party and Power than the individual behind that R.

Quote:
"The entire Republican Party should stand up and say, 'You know what? He's our candidate, it's too important for the future of our country not to have a majority of the Senate in this upcoming election," Santorum said when asked if Romney needs to publicly support Akin. "I'm hoping everybody will join in and support the cause." More
0 Replies
 
spendius
 
  -2  
Sun 30 Sep, 2012 07:32 am
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
laws to control women's bodies established by men


The true misogynist mewling his coy and self-serving sentimentalities. ci. dare not attempt to justify such women-hating nonsense and is content that you will all applaud his ridiculous assertion.
0 Replies
 
tsarstepan
 
  1  
Sun 30 Sep, 2012 02:39 pm
http://i48.tinypic.com/34dhfr7.jpg
http://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/2012/09/30
revelette
 
  3  
Tue 2 Oct, 2012 11:57 am
This thread seems a good place to post the following article. (hate and despise to open new threads) if it not, apologies in advance.

Quote:
On Friday, Judge Carol Jackson, a George H.W. Bush appointee to a federal court in Missouri, rejected a Catholic business owner’s challenge to the Obama Administration’s rules requiring employer health plans to cover birth control. Like the many copycat lawsuits asserting similar legal claims, the plaintiffs in this suit argued that the birth control rules substantially burden their faith by requiring them to pay for employee health benefits which might then in turn be used to pay for birth control. As Judge Jackson’s opinions explains, however, this argument proves too much:


The burden of which plaintiffs complain is that funds, which plaintiffs will contribute to a group health plan, might, after a series of independent decisions by health care providers and patients covered by [an employer's health] plan, subsidize someone else’s participation in an activity that is condemned by plaintiffs’ religion. . . . [Federal religious freedom law] is a shield, not a sword. It protects individuals from substantial burdens on religious exercise that occur when the government coerces action one’s religion forbids, or forbids action one’s religion requires; it is not a means to force one’s religious practices upon others. [It] does not protect against the slight burden on religious exercise that arises when one’s money circuitously flows to support the conduct of other free-exercise-wielding individuals who hold religious beliefs that differ from one’s own. . . .

[T]he health care plan will offend plaintiffs’ religious beliefs only if an [] employee (or covered family member) makes an independent decision to use the plan to cover counseling related to or the purchase of contraceptives. Already, [plaintiffs] pay salaries to their employees—money the employees may use to purchase contraceptives or to contribute to a religious organization. By comparison, the contribution to a health care plan has no more than a de minimus impact on the plaintiff’s religious beliefs than paying salaries and other benefits to employees.


links at the source
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Tue 2 Oct, 2012 12:09 pm
@revelette,
That's too much common sense for those religious' nut cases.
0 Replies
 
engineer
 
  1  
Tue 2 Oct, 2012 12:20 pm
@revelette,
I had never considered it in that light before. That makes a lot of sense.
0 Replies
 
ossobuco
 
  1  
Tue 2 Oct, 2012 12:54 pm
@tsarstepan,
Thank you for posting that, Tsar.
0 Replies
 
spendius
 
  1  
Tue 2 Oct, 2012 01:31 pm
The use of artificial methods of birth control and the consequences of the activity which they are designed to overcome, an obvious perversion of nature, are both voluntary. They cannot be compared to sickness or accidents which are involuntary.

Anybody taken in by the judge's sophistries has a need to be so taken in. "Itching ears".

What I can't understand is why you lot keep banging on obsessively about these matters. You have all the ABC and abortion you could possibly wish for and then some.

It seems to me that the policy will reduce the birth rate in the beta minus and above demographic and thus alter the balance in favour of the lower orders in elections of the future.
 

Related Topics

Obama '08? - Discussion by sozobe
Let's get rid of the Electoral College - Discussion by Robert Gentel
McCain's VP: - Discussion by Cycloptichorn
Food Stamp Turkeys - Discussion by H2O MAN
The 2008 Democrat Convention - Discussion by Lash
McCain is blowing his election chances. - Discussion by McGentrix
Snowdon is a dummy - Discussion by cicerone imposter
TEA PARTY TO AMERICA: NOW WHAT?! - Discussion by farmerman
 
Copyright © 2024 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.07 seconds on 11/15/2024 at 07:38:48