Republican Senate Nominee: "Legitimate" rape victims don't get pregnant

@RABEL222,

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She sure spiked your post with an accurate rejoinder.

On what basis do you make that ridiculous remark TLD?

TLD is three little ducks. A bingo expression.

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This is the quintessential piece of 'reporting' by the Daily Show at the RNC.

Samantha Bee talks to delegates about Romney not adopting the official RNC platform of 'no abortions no exceptions' (he thinks that rape, incest and lifethreatening pregnancies should be exceptions).

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-august-29-2012/rnc-2012---the-road-to-jeb-bush-2016---the-republican-platform

I almost don't want to describe what happens. My jaw dropped.

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@hingehead,

Strap it up hinge and be a devil.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

Oh--I know what the evolutionist position is Beth. I understood you are an evolutionist and I was wondering if we are in agreement.

You know what the evolutionist position is AND you wonder if YOU are in agreement with it?

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You truly do post the most bizarre things.

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@ehBeth,

No. I was wondering if you, as an evolutionist, agreed with my position as an evolutionist or whether you are simply playing the evolution card for reasons having nothing to do with science.

What's the position on who or what decides what is emotional and psychological health? The evolutionist position is that nobody and nothing makes that decision.

And you had made such a decision. Thereby inventing a religion. One based on a belief that you know what is good for the emotional and psychological health of young females. If you have forms of pillory for young females who get pregnant then it is that which causes the damage you claim and not them getting pregnant.

Unless you're saying that they would be damaged if they were rewarded rather than punished. Which I don't think is the case and I insist that a proper evolutionist doesn't as well.

In fact Mrs Thatcher did reward them. Substantially. Auberon Waugh got to the point just before he died of calling them "the salt of the earth".

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

No. I was wondering if you, as an evolutionist, agreed with my position as an evolutionist

What is an evolutionist?

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Here's some support for Aiken's position:

"Galen teaches that women must have an orgasm in order to conceive a child.... The implication is that if a man wants to seduce a woman, and rapes her so brutally that she derives no physical pleasure from the experience, she should not conceive.... if the woman does conceive, then she is deemed to have physically enjoyed the experience ... and so legally no rape has taken place."

From The Time Traveler's Guide to Medieval England: A Handbook for Visitors to the Fourteenth Century, by Ian Mortimer, p. 56.

Aiken's medical knowledge, therefore, is thoroughly up-to-date -- for someone living in the fourteenth century.

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@hingehead,

Oooh, can anyone give a little flavor? (No captions.)

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@ehBeth,

In an extreme form an evolutionist thinks that there is nothing worth saying on the matter that is not painfully obvious. And that anybody making a meal out of it is rowing a boat ashore.

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@sozobe,

She keeps asking "how do you feel about Romney not supporting the platform" and they keep replying "we live in a free society, we live in America, it is up to any human being to decide, to choose what's best for themselves." "Who are we to tell other people how to act."

"It's hard to make that decision unless you're the one in that situation."

"The purpose of government is to protect your individual liberties."

She asks, "except in cases of abortion?"

"Exactly!"

(Literally, one guy answers "exactly" to that question.)

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@joefromchicago,

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"Galen teaches that women must have an orgasm in order to conceive a child.... The implication is that if a man wants to seduce a woman, and rapes her so brutally that she derives no physical pleasure from the experience, she should not conceive.... if the woman does conceive, then she is deemed to have physically enjoyed the experience ... and so legally no rape has taken place."

I trust nobody thinks I have any time for rubbish of that nature. Conception is dependent on a range of factors.

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@ehBeth,

Ii is getting more and more obvious Beth that you are avoiding the substantive issues and contenting yourself with little gambits.

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@spendius,

I understand her point. Its yours that I am having trouble with. But than being able to tell truth from lies I would have.

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@DrewDad,

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"The purpose of government is to protect your individual liberties."

The GOP just wants to take them away from women, gays and lesbians, and minorities (to vote freely as they did before their demands for a voter ID).

Why can't they see their own hypocrisy?

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@RABEL222,

Go on then Rabel. Explain Beth's point. I don't understand it.

My point is that the emotional and psychological health of young females having children can hardly be affected by their evolved capacity to have them and if they are affected adversely it is much more likely to be the social conditions they have them in that is the real cause.

For sure first foals in the horse-racing game command higher prices in the yearling sales.

And asserting that you understand Beth's point is not necessarily proof that you do. I don't think you do understand her point. She is placing the blame on the biological condition when it should be on the social conditions.

Thus she is not an evolutionist but a social engineer.

I have seen articles relating to a deterioration in the quality of offspring increasing with the age of the mother.

BTW--I'm not supporting young sexually mature females having children. But how they fare if they do is not a biological problem but a social one.

What point are you making?

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@spendius,

You never will. And wouldent admit it if you did.

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@RABEL222,

You should be having discussions with a coconut RABEL. Not with me.

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@spendius,

No difference between a coconut and you. So maybe your right.

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@RABEL222,

Between the two fruits, spendi and the coconut, we all know which one has more value.

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A Columbia, Mo.-area television station says it has pulled Rep. Todd Akin's (R-Mo.) ads off the air because it has only received half the payment for them, CBS reports, stoking speculation that he could be running out of campaign funds.

Meanwhile, his rival in the race, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), is launching a new ad selling herself as centrist.Source

Does anyone have any thoughts on what happens if he petitions the court to have his name removed from the ballot by Sept 25th? He'll have to agree to pay the cost of reprinting the ballot but I'm certain the RNC would step in and cover that. What's the likelihood, I wonder, of the court telling him he had the opportunity to withdraw before the deadline and refusing such a petition?

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