spendius
 
  1  
Reply Sun 5 Aug, 2012 08:14 am
@spendius,
When business propositions pander to easy temptations it is bound to produce a tendency towards what " may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion" outcomes in.

A sensualist and sybaritic society being chucked under the chin by a range of rhetorical flourishes of cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men and women.

Notice that General Washington excluded women. No doubt due to him being acquainted with Elbridge Gerry's wife and mother of his 2 month old son who Manasseh Cutler, a Massachusetts clergyman and agent for the Ohio Company, (ahem!) described as " young, very handsome and exceedingly amiable".

I love that vignette, whether true or not, as a guide to the general ambience of the Convention which agreed and ratified the Constitution in what was a very similar manner to how the NFL rules were drawn up. On sheets of paper by people determined to distance themselves from the past. No evolution from the foggy ruins of time. Hatched out by the heat of the sun. "Beam me up Scottie".

Hence "history is bunk". Right on Henry. A true American.

When did you last see a lady described quite like that before? No doubt many lewd jests were offered in the banqueting rooms of the Indian Queen where the bachelors and those who had left their wives at home frequently supped and dined. Rather sumptuously no doubt. Mr Gerry being necessarily absent.
spendius
 
  1  
Reply Sun 5 Aug, 2012 08:33 am
@spendius,
"The Indian Queen Tavern—there was also an Indian King Tavern during the colonial era—was licensed to sell wine and spirits in addition to beer and cider. These fancier taverns, that often provided lodgings, served the politically and intellectually inclined. They were distinguished from "humbler taverns," that sold beer and cider to the "ordinary" Philadelphian, and unlicensed "tippling houses," located near the waterfront. No visible evidence of the Indian Tavern remains, but it is known to be just to the west of Franklin Court. "

I presume that the tippling houses served the other Philadelphians.
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JPB
 
  2  
Reply Tue 7 Aug, 2012 09:20 am
I was discussing the loon from TN with a friend recently who put a different twist on the situation. He had heard about the email but took it as an invitation for an "open season" on the President. That it was intentional in providing cover to anyone who attempted to assassinate Obama before the election where if such an attempt is made he can point to his inside information and say, "See, I told you he was going to plan this..."

My brain simply doesn't work this way but given the lunacy of some folks in this country I can see where he's coming from.
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revelette
 
  2  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 09:35 am
Quote:
The American Family Association’s Bryan Fischer has sunk to a new, disturbing low with his anti-gay statements. In two separate tweets last night, he called for an “Underground Railroad to deliver innocent children from same-sex households
.”

source will take you to the tweet

JPB
 
  1  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 10:04 am
@revelette,
<shakes head>
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revelette
 
  0  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 01:18 pm
Quote:
Allegheny County's GOP chair and former county executive Jim Roddey has long been known for being quotable, and he added to that reputation tonight in a joke equating Obama supporters with the mentally disabled.

Roddey as usual acted as MC at the election night party for state Rep. Randy Vulakovich, R-Shaler, who won the special election to fill convicted state Sen. Jane Orie's seat in Pittsburgh's northern suburbs. Vulakovich beat Democrat Sharon Brown at about 74-26%, which Roddey said "is the largest margin we've had in 50 years!"

That got a huge response from the partisan GOP crowd of about 200 people at Vulakovich's party, whereupon Roddey went into his Obama joke.

"There was a disappointment tonight. I was very embarrassed. I was in this parking lot and there was a man looking for a space to park, and I found a space for him. And I felt badly -- he looked like he was sort of in distress. And I said, 'Sir, here's a place.' And he said, 'That's a handicapped space.' I said, 'Oh I'm so sorry, I saw that Obama sticker and I thought you were mentally retarded."

The crowd hollered and clapped, and then Roddey went into the the usual thanks at political events for grassroots supporters of the winning candidate.

Roddey has long been a vocal supporter of Mitt Romney, even before the GOP presidential field was settled, and has joined GOP voices supporting the state's strict new voter ID rules -- at a Romney event last month he joked he had re-done is will so he could be buried in Philadelphia and vote from the grave.


source
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 01:35 pm
@revelette,
Making fun of the handicapped just shows that conservatives are brainless without any sense of decency.

Many soldiers come home handicapped both physically and mentally.

What's so funny about that?
Finn dAbuzz
 
  1  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 03:49 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Making fun of the handicapped just shows that conservatives are brainless without any sense of decency.

Many soldiers come home handicapped both physically and mentally.

What's so funny about that?


Yes bodisattva CI, one man making a joke and some portion of a 200 person audience laughing means that conservatives are brainless and without any sence of decency.

I guess this means President Obama is brainless and without any sense of decency because he did the same thing.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Wed 8 Aug, 2012 04:04 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Yes; it's also because many families are affected by disabled people.

You are clueless.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  0  
Reply Thu 9 Aug, 2012 04:47 pm
@cicerone imposter,
So that's a yes, Obama is brainless and without any sense of decency?
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Thu 9 Aug, 2012 04:53 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
The only one "brainless" around here is you! You're now on my Ignore list.
spendius
 
  1  
Reply Thu 9 Aug, 2012 05:02 pm
@revelette,
He could just as easily have said--"'Oh I'm so sorry, I saw that Romney sticker and I thought you were mentally retarded."

Depends on the audience to be buttered up.

The vote from the grave was a much better joke.
Finn dAbuzz
 
  -1  
Reply Thu 9 Aug, 2012 06:24 pm
@cicerone imposter,
If someone can and wants to defend CI's position in this exchange, please do.

I'm conflicted with whether I should assume he is of able mind and body and counter his idiotic posts in this vein, or ignore him because he is befuddled by the dire impact of advanced age on his brain.

This is not to insult him, although under the former consideration he is entirely deserving of same, but a genuine question.

I tend to think he's not a sufferer of senility, but I can be wrong.

If I am, and he is, I regret many of my replies to him.

Who can know though?
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JTT
 
  1  
Reply Thu 9 Aug, 2012 08:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
You're now on my Ignore list.


A: No way. I ignored you first.

B: No, you didn't.

A: Did too.

B: Did not!

A: How many you got on your ignore list?

B: More than you.

A: Do not!

B: Do too.

...



Why are there so many cowards from the land of the "brave"?
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JPB
 
  4  
Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2012 05:54 am
Loon alert!!!

Quote:
In what may be the most eyebrow-raising reaction to President Obama's controversial pro-gay marriage stance to date, a right wing Tea Party author and conspiracy theorist is claiming that Obama himself might be secretly gay or bisexual.

"This is something I've accumulated a great deal of evidence on -- the evidence, I think, is very strong," Jerome Corsi states in a new video. "The question is not to condemn Obama here for being bisexual or gay, if that's in fact what he is, but to wonder why he's gone to the extent of hiding it...what's the duplicity? What's the hypocrisy?"


You can't make this **** up!!!
revelette
 
  1  
Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2012 12:00 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
The vote from the grave was a much better joke.


Perhaps, but not based on any truth.
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cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2012 12:53 pm
@JPB,
This is the craziest presidential campaign ever held; both are telling big lies to win media coverage, but I think the dems are winning this fight. Romney is now the "killer of Jon Bonnet Ramsey." Since Romney will reveal nothing, this is going to hound him till election day. Mr. Green
revelette
 
  1  
Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2012 01:13 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I am pretty sure this ad I think you referring to was meant to be (imo, tasteless) a joke.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2012 01:29 pm
@revelette,
It's not a joke; it's about Romney hiding too much, and making excuses of not providing important info about himself. On top of all that, he lies about his own lies.

Sometimes, it's necessary to fight fire with fire. This is a good case in point; the Romney campaign have been using lies against Obama. I think it's good strategy to put Romney on the defensive.

Which Romney campaign lies are jokes? I don't see any.
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Baldimo
 
  1  
Reply Fri 10 Aug, 2012 01:44 pm
@roger,
I do not agree it should be part of every health insurance policy sold. My wife and I have no need for BC. I was snipped 7 years ago and she ended up having a total hysterectomy last year, so why do we need to carry BC coverage? So I can help pay for someone else's? My insurance costs have only risen in the last 4 years and since I have to pay for things I will never use it is going to cost me more.

 

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