IS IT JUST ME?

8 Months on and I don't know 90% of you..

When I first joined, I was dissed for an opinion on what I would call a "help" thread... I thought about it.. If I was a weak person, I'd have left.. Being strong, I just replied "hey is that how you treat a newby? " Spelt wrong... That person, bless her is a real sweety... I think it rubs off, you know? Each other thread I read, was putting people down... New threads about relationships or the likes, which I know most of you aren't that interested in, got laughed at... It took me a while to adjust and accept each person...just the way they are. But, this thread questions the why is that so? The nastiness?

Even Hawkeye .. Regardless I see wisdom and a sense of understanding on things but then I see, "attraction" not with him (haha) but to certain topics and he won't let go until he's done... I admire that in all of you as alot of you do that. But, that to means there is reason and logic, as well as belief in what you are typing out... As with me.

But still, if I was weak, when Hawkeye has attacked me, very rare, I'd run.. But, I am not..

I wonder therefore, in-other-words if the attacking really is worth it?

I see it between long term members.. And, I wonder can that be good for anyone? Opinions are just that aren't they? I admit I've done it to Bill but I've stopped because otherwise I am a pawn in this too... But, doesn't mean I won't "respectfully" disagree.

There should be more laughter, I do that in the threads... It is what adds to my day... Too much negativety makes you feel aweful.

Hey Dutchy, keep getting better you always stayed away from negative, and just stayed with fun

I'm starting to get to know quite a few here now and I feel great.. I like this place.. It's diverse. It accepts who you are once you are a "player" and I just feel people should open their thoughts more.. To welcoming... I HATE politics so I am lucky

Anyways I am glad I found this place... And, I am grateful to those I am starting to get to know that they are letting me do so, as well as I look forward to getting to know the rest.. Ulitimately, it's such a diverse Forum.. that the debates are going to get out of hand... If only, though people think oh, opinion...That's mine, that's his... And don't start with all the carp that fills the pages with negative put downs.. I get what you are saying.

I am saying all of this because I am newish... But, maybe those that are new that are a tad shocked at the way they are accepted walk... Not all are strong enough to hang in there and get to know the wonderful people here, and there are so many...

One problem is too narrow a focus. You speak of "ultra-right" and "ultra-left"--but while folks like Okie an Zippo are rarely seen any longer, or not at all, that comment is unconsciously a summing up of one of the problems here. Finn hit the same not whining about this being a community of left-wingers who only want to see preaching to the choir.

This place isn't just about politics. It is not even about politics most of the time. It's nto even about politics and religion most of the time. If Finn's problem is that there's too many left wingers in what he essentially sees as a circle jerk, he badly needs to get out more. (Actually, i don't think it would help in his case--he only really comes here for the strife.) Some very etnertaining, some very tragic threads are about relationships. Food, gardening, DIY home improvement provide many an interesting, rarely controversial and often just silly thread. Parenting and teaching; science and math; even the dread pirate Philosophy--there's a helluva lot more going on here than just politics and religion.

We still do get the odd plain silly thread, posted as a satire on other threads, or just because somebody wants to have fun.

Lighten up, everyone. Relax, fool around--then return to ridicule, scorn and humiliation.

That means that in your vu,
the Founders, to whom we rightists endeavor to conform our filosofy,
George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, Patrick Henry,
had "a stupid premise"; in other words, the founding of this Republic was stupid.

Presumably, u believe that thay shud have established some form of socialism.





David

sounds reasonable, i mean after all politics is such a serious subject

(and who would make Palin puns when there are so many more relevant idiots in politics to mock)

Even Australians are called Palin.... I should know

Dont give me that It might just be me".
Ha

I nvented "it might just be me"

Farmerman,
it is not just you.

Is there any reason at all to use expressions like this?

Snotty son of a bitch......You sure are a prissy, self-righteous, holier-than-thou creep. .......you self-righteous prig,

Why can a person not say an opinion without getting attacked in this way? And one has to accept it without in any way try to defend oneself or even less somebody else.

I did not come over whining all over.
I never said that you wrote it, nor did I tell anybody it was meant to me.
You are the only person who could get me to leave here for ever with your constant attacks on other people.
I am not going to give you the pleasure of leaving.
It will be a pleasure to have you to suffer under my sucking English

Attack ME, but calling my mother a bitch goes too far.
You don´t know her and you have never met her. Leave her out of the nasty remarks.

If you think the folks who instigated a revolution against their government, essentially completed the overturning of the "divine right of kings," and instituted a democratic republic were conservative, then you need to stop smoking whatever it is you're smoking.

This is sorta what I mean. The opening line about the "refreshingly vacuuous thread" In my time, "Vacuous" means stupid or absent of any inteligence . SO, what appeared to you as expressing an opinion was a shot at the previous poster (I assume it was saab). Then Saab responds IN KIND and now you both are accusing each other of starting it. I think you both should have read your posts before hitting "Send" and maybe the potential for a 4 page nyah nyah fest from both of you could be avoided.

Ive been in plenty of these where I figured I was being merely humorus , where the postee read it as an insult.

Ill bet I hear from both of you on this post of mine. Nobody ikes to be scolded, especially on-line.

What does IN KIND mean?
And what is a 4 page nyah nyah fest?

I am not ironic. I really do not know what it means.

I believe we all owe a vote of thanks to both Saab and Setanta for so ably and graphically illustrating precisely what Farmerman is talking about in his OP. Kudos, guys!

IN KIND is a term that means two things
1It means that I would give you something of an equal value for money you have given me. "In kind services" are where , in the old days, a doctors fees coud be satisfied by the patient giving him a plucked chicken to eat or else the patient could do some work for the doctor.
2 It also means, in debate, that a response term of similar weight or intensity to that just given to you by your opponent , was returned to him .


A "4 page nyah nyah fest" is a term I guess that I coined . It means that you are both beginning to trade semi-whining insults at each other and , I expect it will carry on as two kids screaming at each other for about 4 more pages. "Nyah Nyah, neener \neener" is a kids phrase that was popular when I was a kid on the playground when you wanted to really piss someone off.

SOme people will accuse others of "whining" so I say that they are carrying on a "nyah nyah fest"

By the way, if FM was scolding, that was pretty palid. LA can kiss my red Irish ass--it was Saab who brought this over here from the other thread. The only thing i'll own here is that is someone goes after me, they'll get it back--in spades.