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Florida's Stand your Ground law

 
 
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2012 03:45 am

We owe it to ourselves
to make it as ez, comfortable and financially safe
to defend ourselves from predatory violence if it arises.
Victims have enuf trouble with the bad guy;
thay shud not have more trouble from any government.



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Larse Morrison
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2012 07:08 am
The rest of the world is watching you folks, and we're not impressed. Instead of trying to figure out how to reduce the national debt, your politicians are letting special interest groups show you how to kill people for no good reason and get away with it. Maybe it's time to take a step into the 20th century (no, that's not a typo).
roger
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2012 08:33 am
@Larse Morrison,
Who are you, and who is the world watching? A little context might help.
Larse Morrison
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2012 09:14 am
@roger,
We're people from other countries
roger
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2012 09:15 am
@Larse Morrison,
Impressive. Kind of like "We the People. . . .
Andraste
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2012 09:31 am
@MontereyJack,
I agree with you monteray...
David has never been stalked by a sick person!
Until he is: and let it be for the same reason ( the coplor of his skin),or his religion....
Then he'llknow what he'll know what he's talking about
Larse Morrison
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2012 09:32 am
@roger,
A little context might help.
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Andraste
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2012 09:34 am
@FreeDuck,
Freeduck: The only way to stop a stlaker?
Let him be stalked!
For what ever misguided reason
the same thing could happen to a vigilante
let someone else become a vigilante& shoot him
after chasing & confronting him
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2012 04:29 pm
@Andraste,
Andraste wrote:
Freeduck: The only way to stop a stlaker?
Let him be stalked!
For what ever misguided reason
the same thing could happen to a vigilante
let someone else become a vigilante& shoot him
after chasing & confronting him
There was a movie about that about 3O or 4O years ago
(with the Hemingway sister who committed suicide, I believe)
wherein a guy was obsessively stalking her out of his impassioned love.
She did not want him. He was menacing toward her.
He had another girl who was obsessed with HIM, according to the movie.

If I remember, she took him out with a shotgun (messy)
while he was menacing Ms. Hemingway.
The other girl resented his lack of attention.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2012 04:33 pm
@Larse Morrison,
Larse Morrison wrote:
The rest of the world is watching you folks, and we're not impressed.
We r not putting on a show, for u.


Larse Morrison wrote:
Instead of trying to figure out how to reduce the national debt, your politicians are letting special interest groups
show you how to kill people for no good reason and get away with it.
WHICH SIGs r those??
Mine don 't do that. Maybe thay r lazy.





David


OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 31 Mar, 2012 04:37 pm
@Andraste,
Andraste wrote:
I agree with you monteray...
David has never been stalked by a sick person!
That is true, nor by a healthy one, either.


Andraste wrote:
Until he is: and let it be for the same reason ( the coplor of his skin), or his religion....
Then he'llknow what he'll know what he's talking about
That is very poor reasoning.
(Typing is not good either.)





David
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2012 01:04 am
Some voice experts have analyzed the tape and concluded the voice heard screaming for help couldn't be Zimmerman's.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/31/trayvon-martin-shooting-911-call-screams_n_1394224.html

I sure hope that murdering pig gets what's coming to him.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2012 04:34 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
WHICH SIGs r those??
wel, lets start with the NRA which has NO business benefit to assure the protection of all citizens over their single minded interests to make sure that maximum guns are being sold or distributed.
The NRA is a business lobby first. Their bullshit about "gun safety training" and "outdoorsmanship" is just a pile of feces.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2012 04:37 am
Tell it, farmer.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2012 05:12 am
@farmerman,
DAVID wrote:
WHICH SIGs r those??
farmerman wrote:
wel, lets start with the NRA which has NO business benefit to assure the protection of all citizens
over their single minded interests to make sure that maximum guns are being sold or distributed.
The NRA is a business lobby first.
I know that u believe that; what is the source of your information on that point????

Your belief is false.
I know several members of the NRA Board of Directors,
some of whom have been in heated election battles of an ideological nature
among themselves. No one has ever even hinted at that in the 5O years that I 've been a Life Member.

The purpose of the NRA is liberty,
by constricting & strangling the jurisdiction of government
(in accordance with the Bill of Rights)
the same way that the suffragettes wanted freedom to vote for chicks.

Your belief on this point has no basis in fact.
That is NOT to imply that there 'd be anything improper
with gun manufacturers putting together a lobby.
That 'd have First Amendment protection
in several different ways. (I think there is one; I 'm not sure.)

U r like an active motorist who detests & despises the AAA.
Illogical; very illogical. I thawt u were a scientist.





David
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2012 11:29 am
This is interesting

Quote:
At Krop, Martin was suspended three times, according to records obtained by the Miami Herald, once for writing graffiti on a door and another time for school truancy. The third suspension took place the week of his death. Martin was suspended for 10 days due to drug residue being found in his backpack.
In an interview with CNN's Anderson Cooper, Sybrina Fulton responded to her son's suspension: "Whatever he had dealings with the school, it was not criminal, it was not violent, he's never been arrested."
Darrell Green, a fellow football player and close friend, said Martin was no different from any other teen.
"Everybody gets in trouble," said Green, "Everybody goes through it."
Green remembered Martin as a "positive person" and a "good friend."
During the 10-day suspension, Tracy Martin took his son with him to Sanford, about four hours away from Miami, while he visited his fiancée because neither he nor Fulton wanted their son to stay in his hometown where he could enjoy his friends, said Horton, who has been in close contact with Martin's father.


http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/30/us/trayvon-martin-profile/index.html?hpt=hp_bn1

Without the school "zero tolerance" program this kid would have never been in the location were his life came to an end. 2 weeks for "residue"?? I predict that we will find out that this kid on this day was pissed off with how is school and his dad had been treating him, and that this is an important part of the interaction which left him dead.
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MMarciano
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2012 11:35 am
This is NOT how community policing works. He should be charged at the very least with manslaughter. He was told not to follow him but he did. He was told not to confront him but he did. Trayvon did not go looking for trouble. Trouble found Trayvon and he paid with his life.

There is no excuse justifiable in this world for what the "Watch Captain" did to this young man. Can you imagine his fear? I would be just torn apart to know our child screamed in fear and pleaded for help and then died for nothing more than having taken a short cut.

No winners in this travesty at all.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2012 11:37 am
@MMarciano,
Quote:
. He was told not to follow him but he did


BY a 911 operator, not by anyone trained in either law enforcement or the law. Please outline where you think a 911 operator gets the authority to direct a citizen. I have always felt that should I call 911 the person I talk to might have some good advise but that I am under no demand from the state that I follow that advise.
DrewDad
 
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Reply Sun 1 Apr, 2012 11:41 am
@hawkeye10,
It was still good advice.

The kid would likely not have been shot, and Zimmerman wouldn't be facing the possibility of criminal charges.
 

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