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Florida's Stand your Ground law

 
 
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2012 08:25 pm
@roger,
that's kinda how big business operates though, roger.

can I still call you roger?
parados
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2012 08:27 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Decedent probably brawt it on himself.
There is nothing rong with getting out of his car.

There is nothing wrong with lighting a match.
And yet most arsons start with just that action.
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roger
 
  1  
Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2012 08:29 pm
@Rockhead,
Some. I worked for a relatively small businessman who worked to much, much higher standards. What a prick, but a moral and ethical prick.

Sure. Clearly I'm never going to be Roger around here.
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DrewDad
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2012 10:02 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:
The question has now arisen of whether
Trayvon killed himself by trying to snatch Z 's gun,
pulling it forward, applying presure against the trigger in Mr. Z's hand.
I wonder if thay tested decedent 's hands for GSR.

You seem to delight in creating scenarios where Zimmerman was not at fault.

Yet if we create a scenario where Zimmerman was at fault, you want evidence to support it.

You're really showing yourself to be a two-faced nutjob, and every post you make here just digs you deeper into a hole of your own making.

Do yourself a favor, and quit digging.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2012 10:09 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:
You don't get it, do you David.
No. I get it.



parados wrote:
Why do you carry a gun?
It is for protection?
Yes; its to enable me
to control a predatory emergency, if 1 arises.
So far, only 1 significant predatory emergency has arisen,
in my personal experience. I controlled it, because I possessed
the necessary equipment to do so. I also carry a Primatine Mist
inhaler for protection from the symptoms of asthma. I guess u deem that irrational.

Do u carry spare tires in the trunks of your cars??
Do u have an irrational fear of flat tires????




parados wrote:
Why do you need protection at all times if not an irrational fear?
Because of the existence of the predatory violence of man and beast. This is a well known fact.
It is also well known that this predatory violence sometimes arises when u r not expecting it.
Predators do not always make appointments beforehand.

It is very strange that u do not understand that.
As long as the USSC does, there will be no problem.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2012 10:12 pm
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:
The question has now arisen of whether
Trayvon killed himself by trying to snatch Z 's gun,
pulling it forward, applying presure against the trigger in Mr. Z's hand.
I wonder if thay tested decedent 's hands for GSR.

You seem to delight in creating scenarios where Zimmerman was not at fault.

Yet if we create a scenario where Zimmerman was at fault,
you want evidence to support it.

You're really showing yourself to be a two-faced nutjob, and every
post you make here just digs you deeper into a hole of your own making.

Do yourself a favor, and quit digging.
No, Drew. I 'll do as I damn well please,
and I need no advice from u.





David
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2012 10:15 pm
Which is basically why you're regarded fairly generally as a monomaniacal blinkered laughingstock.
Rockhead
 
  1  
Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2012 10:16 pm
@MontereyJack,
with a big gun.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2012 10:27 pm
with dozens of big guns, and you know what they say, "big gun, small ..."
RABEL222
 
  1  
Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2012 11:03 pm
@MontereyJack,
Brain?
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2012 11:05 pm
well, that's not the USUAL fill-in-the-blank in that aphorism, but it'll work.
roger
 
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Reply Mon 26 Mar, 2012 11:19 pm
@MontereyJack,
I own more that one handgun. I promise; I don't take them out and stroke them.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2012 05:33 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
Which is basically why you're regarded fairly generally as a monomaniacal blinkered laughingstock.
I EXPECT that in posting to a liberal website,
but I can 't argue in the face of agreement.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2012 05:53 am
@Rockhead,
Rockhead wrote:
with a big gun.
1 of my handguns is "big"
(my 7.5 inch .44 magnum Ruger Super Blackhawk, an artifact of Americana).
I have a longbarreled target pistol, but its only a .22 caliber pistol.
Most of my handgun collection consists of shortbarreled revolvers, mostly 2 inch barrels.
There r a few single action revolvers with 3 or 4 inch barrels.
My primary defensive piece is a .44 special revolver with a 2 inch barrel,
loaded with hollowpointed slugs. Guns that r too big r a little awkward, too bulky, clumsy.

The police have commended me on the beauty of my collection.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2012 06:09 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
with dozens of big guns, and you know what they say, "big gun, small ..."
Have u verified the truth of what thay . . . said ??
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parados
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2012 07:00 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Yes; its to enable me
to control a predatory emergency, if 1 arises.
So far, only 1 significant predatory emergency has arisen,

And that is a pretty good definition of paranoia. You are worried about being prepared for a situation that has occurred once in over 50 years.

If you have asthma then I would guess you have needed an inhaler more than once in 50 years. If you have never needed it or only needed it once then I would consider it irrational. I would consider it irrational if you carried a shovel just in case you had to dig a grave.

Quote:
Do u carry spare tires in the trunks of your cars??
Do u have an irrational fear of flat tires????
Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. I have also had at least 3 flat tires in the last 5 years requiring the use of a spare. Hardly irrational under a question of how often I need the item. The spare tire comes with the car. I keep it in the car where it was when I bought it. I don't feel a need to carry the spare tire on my person at all times just in case. I don't have to remove it from the car and put it back in every time I take a trip. I don't obsess about having it.

Quote:
It is also well known that this predatory violence sometimes arises when u r not expecting it.
Predators do not always make appointments beforehand.
Asteroids don't make appointments and I don't feel I need to carry around protection from them. I would consider anyone that felt the need to always carry protection from asteroids to be irrational.
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2012 07:10 am
regarding your single so-called "predatory emergency", David. You should have gone to driving school and learned how to make a bootlegger turn. Then you wouldn't have had to lug something around with you for fifty plus years, just to feel safe.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2012 12:52 pm
@parados,
DAVID wrote:
Yes; its to enable me
to control a predatory emergency, if 1 arises.
So far, only 1 significant predatory emergency has arisen,
parados wrote:
And that is a pretty good definition of paranoia.
No. It just shows that u r uneducated qua the nature of paranoia,
which is ego-centric, in that the afflicted person has delusions
of grandeur and/or of persecution by important, sinister groups,
thereby indicating his imagined extra-ordinary importance,
the point being that if he were of no particular consequence,
then no one 'd be interested in his life. I am 1OO% confident
that no one of any organization whatsoever is following me,
nor tapped my fone, nor watching me in any way whatsoever.
No one cares and I LOVE my anonymity; it is a treasured asset.
That is not to say that I 'm immune from drowning while swimming
in the ocean, nor immune from getting hit by lightning or a truck,
or immune from being robbed, at random. That is not paranoid.
That does not single me out. It is recognition of the human condition.


parados wrote:
You are worried about being prepared for a situation that has occurred once in over 50 years.
Now u claim to be a mind-reader, that u know when I am "worried"??
I have no emotions about things that coud possibly go bad.
I don 't live in a state of fear qua heart attacks, nor flat tires,
nor falling down the stairs, nor getting robbed, but I know
that it is wise to be as well prepared as possible to control
emergencies that can arise. Accordingly, I have health insurance,
a fire extinguisher, spare tires, Primatine Mist and defensive guns.
I recommend them to the attention of all of my fellow citizens.


parados wrote:
If you have asthma then I would guess you have needed an inhaler
more than once in 50 years. If you have never needed it or only
needed it once then I would consider it irrational.
I very seldom need it, but I take comfort in knowing that if
I feel a little tight in my chest, I can have recourse to that; it works.
(Guns do too; the mere display, without more.)


parados wrote:
I would consider it irrational if you carried a shovel just in case you had to dig a grave.
OK, on that, we can agree.
I have never dug one, and I intend to live out my days without ever doing so.



DAVID wrote:
Do u carry spare tires in the trunks of your cars??
Do u have an irrational fear of flat tires????
parados wrote:
Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. I have also had at least 3 flat tires in the last 5 years
requiring the use of a spare. Hardly irrational under a question of how often I need the item.
U r a statistician, right??
When I was 11, I adopted the philosophy that I shud not risk more
than I am willing to lose. Inter alia, that applies to predatory emergencies.
U r free to cast your fate to the winds n take your chances.
U r the captain of your own ship. (Beware of pirates.)



parados wrote:
The spare tire comes with the car. I keep it in the car where it was when I bought it. I don't feel a need to carry the spare tire on my person at all times just in case. I don't have to remove it from the car and put it back in every time I take a trip.
If defensive guns were that bulky n awkward,
then we coud not carry them around.



parados wrote:
I don't obsess about having it.
Carrying guns when u go out is a lot like wearing shoes; u don 't think much about them.
All the guys I 've known who carry defensive guns, including police, seldom think about them.
Like our keys, we don 't think of them unless we need them; we don 't "obsess".


DAVID wrote:
It is also well known that this predatory violence sometimes arises when u r not expecting it.
Predators do not always make appointments beforehand.
parados wrote:
Asteroids don't make appointments and I don't feel I need to carry around protection from them.
I would consider anyone that felt the need to always carry protection from asteroids to be irrational.
There is no defense from them.
There exist defenses from human n non-human predators.





David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2012 01:08 pm
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
regarding your single so-called "predatory emergency", David.
You should have gone to driving school and learned how to make a bootlegger turn.
Then you wouldn't have had to lug something around with you for fifty plus years, just to feel safe.
Yeah, surely all the driving schools teach about the turns of bootleggers.
Surely, that must be a turn that I can make, but that a predator
cannot pursue on the road. I 've never been much of a fan of exposing my back and running away, Jack.





David
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Tue 27 Mar, 2012 02:21 pm
actually you can find videos of drinving schools teaching it online. You end up going the other way while your pursuer is still going full speed in what is now the other direction. Bootleggers, who later became the first generation of NASCAR racers invented it to get away from the Feds. Worked great for them. Still does.
 

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