Why I am not Voting Obama

@RABEL222,

Good line that someone posted on another site:

Baby diapers and politicians should be changed often. And for the same reasons.

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@RABEL222,

They're deaf and dumb....

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@JTT,

According to your criteria for war criminality--basically an assertion made by Chomsky that you don't even attempt to put into your own words, you merely parrot it by cutting and pasting a transcript of one of his lectures (at least you don't pass it off as your own)--the hanging of General Yamashita, the US presidents aren't war criminals. Seeing as how Emperor Hirohito had the supreme command of the Army and Navy of Japan and he wasn't hanged nor even tried for war crimes, the US Presidents wouldn't have been either. Who would be war criminals by your criteria are the lower ranking generals of the US armed forces.

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@InfraBlue,

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According to your criteria for war criminality--basically an assertion made by Chomsky that you don't even attempt to put into your own words, you merely parrot it by cutting and pasting a transcript of one of his lectures (at least you don't pass it off as your own)--the hanging of General Yamashita, the US presidents aren't war criminals.

You should probably read more than a few sentences from a long article before you jump in and make a fool of yourself, Infra. Normally, that is not like you, though lately you seem to be trying to trip me up with these poorly thought out responses. Why?

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Seeing as how Emperor Hirohito had the supreme command of the Army and Navy of Japan and he wasn't hanged nor even tried for war crimes, the US Presidents wouldn't have been either. Who would be war criminals by your criteria are the lower ranking generals of the US armed forces.

As we all know, the US will jump to make deals even with the devil if it aids them in maintaining or advancing their stranglehold over the riches of other countries.

The Tokyo trials were a farce orchestrated by the US to aid in their monumental propaganda program. The US let off many a war criminal as long as those war criminals shared their dirty secrets, again pointing clearly to what the US is and what the US is interested in, which certainly ain't justice.

But your argument is nonsense. As I said, you have to read the entire article. Please get back to us when you're finished. I'd love to see pigs fly.

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@JTT,

You absolutely should, not probably, post exactly what you're parroting from someone else as your criteria for war criminality, and not expect someone to infer or assume something else merely from a link that you supply. You already show your lack of original thought by attempting to quote a cut and paste job as your criteria. You betray your inanity when you can't even cut and paste precisely what it is that you're basing your criteria on.

And then to complete the total irrationality of your argument, you undermine your very criteria of war criminality, the Nuremburg and Tokyo Trials, by condemning them and dismissing them as farces--well, Chomsky dismisses them at farces, you merely parrot his words without giving thought to the contradictions they present in the argument you're attempting to make, especially when you bring up the US' "deals with the devil" as regards these trials.

Yeah, Chomsky illustrates the US' hypocrisy in how it defines war criminality, that for the US a war crime is something that the enemy had done but couldn’t show--during the Nuremburg and Tokyo Trials--that we had done it. That's one thing, another thing is his condemnation of US Presidents as war criminals based on his own poorly reasoned, and contradictory criteria that you thoughtlessly repeat.

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@InfraBlue,

I do wish there was some way or me to give you more than just one 'thumbs up' for that post.

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@Lustig Andrei,

I'm surprised that people are still reading his trash. I put him on ignore, and I'm more than positive, I've not missed anything new from this parrot with dyslexia.

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@InfraBlue,

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You absolutely should, not probably, post exactly what you're parroting from someone else as your criteria for war criminality, and not expect someone to infer or assume something else merely from a link that you supply.

You absolutely must read the information in the link. That's the whole problem with you folks - you're so damn frightened by the truth that is sitting right in front of your noses. So you attempt these end runs instead of dealing with the actual fact situations.

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And then to complete the total irrationality of your argument, you undermine your very criteria of war criminality, the Nuremburg and Tokyo Trials, by condemning them and dismissing them as farces--well, Chomsky dismisses them at farces, you merely parrot his words without giving thought to the contradictions they present in the argument you're attempting to make, especially when you bring up the US' "deals with the devil" as regards these trials.

No, that only serves to highlight the control that the US, this top gangster nation, has over the world. The US got into WWII because it saw a grand opportunity to advance its positions in SE Asia at the expense of the European powers who were knocked for a loop by the war.

That was made clear by the US's rape of Korea and its attempted rape of Vietnam. The US, before WWII, had been doing what it was blaming Japan for, The US's actions against Japan forced it to do what the US would have done, had it been in Japan's position, long before Japan did.

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That's one thing, another thing is his condemnation of US Presidents as war criminals based on his own poorly reasoned, and contradictory criteria that you thoughtlessly repeat.

Things that you, Infra, are deathly afraid to face. Same ole, same ole.

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Hey JTT, Can I ask you a question please?
Listen - suppose everyone took all your warnings to heart, and started to regard the US, and its government, as corrupt and guilty of countless acts of war crimes. Suppose everyone took every post of yours to heart, and you were able to get everyone as aware and/or outraged as you are about the issues you raise...

What would you want to happen? Would you want there to be some kind of grass roots insurrection? Would everyone simply abandon all other subjects and devote A2K entirely to pointing out the criminality of the US and its government?

I ask with the hope that you actually have some reasoning in mind for continuously funneling every discussion into the same harangue. Do you have a goal in mind for constantly talking about the same thing? Or is it as pointless as it seems, and you just can't help yourself?

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@snood,

snood, JTT is intoxicated with his own trash/BS, and he can't help himself from repeating the same story in every way possible in the English language.

I'm fascinated from the very fact that people like yourself still read his diatribe.

Let me know when he changes his message - that will never happen.

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@cicerone imposter,

cicerone imposter wrote:

snood, JTT is intoxicated with his own trash/BS, and he can't help himself from repeating the same story in every way possible in the English language.

I'm fascinated from the very fact that people like yourself still read his diatribe.

Let me know when he changes his message - that will never happen.

I actually have him on ignore most of the time. Lately I've been clicking on him to read what he has to say, just to check if he's added any variety at all to what he says - no luck yet. I just want to hear from him what he thinks he's accomplishing from constantly banging the same drum, or short of that, at least establish that he just does it out of compulsion.

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@snood,

Have you ever known anyone who takes up a pet cause by doing absolutely nothing else but bitching in the name of the cause?

JTT will say the goal is to expose all these war criminals (american ones only, of course; an important distinction) and try them for their crimes. But really I think he just thinks he's smarter than every other US citizen and is embarrassed to be a associated with us, and pissing in everyone's corn flakes from time to time is just how he reminds himself how much better he is than everyone else.

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@snood,

Listen to you three, Snood. CI knows that the US is guilty of innumerable war crimes. He's said so many a time. He's just unable to absorb the gravity of the situation so this is his response. It's not unusual to see this level of denial when someone finds that much/most of what he was led to believe is false.

You and Thack are acting exactly the same way.

If this is all just a ruse, if all I've posted is so patently false, then it should be a breeze for you to blow it apart.

Take a run at it, Thack and Snood. You're from the land of the brave, are you not?

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@snood,

I believe JTT has a psychological problem, because what he's doing on a2k is only a symptom of his mental problem(s) repeating hateful, derogatory, message by changing a few words but never the theme.

I've never seen anything like him in all my life, and I'm going to be 77 y/o next month. He's not only odd, but a sicko by any measurement. He's obsessed, and he has a compulsive disorder. I'm sure a psychiatrist can be more technical about his kind of illness.

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@cicerone imposter,

Almost goes w/o saying, c.i. This is one sick puppy. But I can't bring myself to put JTT on "ignore" for some reason. I'd be missing too many hilarious laughs.

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@Lustig Andrei,

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But I can't bring myself to put JTT on "ignore" for some reason.

Nor can you bring yourself to actually address any issue, Merry, on any topic. You can't even bring yourself to address Foofie or anyone else. You just sit on the sidelines sniping away.

And you also are from the land of the brave. You also were some hot shot newspaper guy who, one would suspect, think, would be cognizant of a whole lot more than you are.

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but y'all feed him some of the time.

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@ossobuco,

True.

Apparently he is irrisistable.

However, he's the one thing we can all seem to agree upon.

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@cicerone imposter,

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He's obsessed,

That's ironic, CI.

America isn't obsessed with itself, Americans aren't obsessed with themselves. We're just starting to see where this has led, just how this obsession has been the cause of the evil brutalization of so so many around the world.

What I don't understand, among many things, is how y'all are so sanguine when you know about the lies, the incredible deception that has been thrust upon you all. You're supposed to be the masters of your fate, this grand citizen power that controls its government.

Really, is there anything so farcical as that? Yup, you guys do a grand job of controlling your government.

Lucky for the US government that there are so many Alfred E. Neumans, right, Thack?

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@ossobuco,

You used to engage, Osso, until you saw the writing on the wall. Never underestimate the power of your "comrades" to demand your silence.

Now you just stumble into a controversy, mumble a few incoherent comments to make youself feel efficacious and to salve your conscience and then you beat a hasty retreat.

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