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OmSigDAVID
 
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Mon 19 Dec, 2011 04:53 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
David wrote:
I 'm reminded of my girlfriend, Maralyn (who was living with me)
who ( I remain certain ) tried to provoke me to violence toward her:
BillRM wrote:
David my then wife at the time was clearly trying to provoke me
into hitting her by slapping me a number of times.
firefly wrote:
David's girlfriend Maralyn provoked him.
Her effort to provoke me was unsuccessful; I laffed it off n walked away.

On another occasion,
she beat me over the head with her radio.

I did not take that seriously either.





David
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BillRM
 
  1  
Mon 19 Dec, 2011 07:59 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
so she might have had doubts about you too, or do ubts about letting you near her children. And now she sleeps with a gun...


LOL I love your logic however after enjoying married life once it was I who was not in a hurry to tied the knot to put it mildly one more time.

Beside my peace of mind being destroyed I went from having a lot of savings and investments to almost needing to declare bankrupt in less then a year.

Was within days of having the bank take my home away before my then wife decided to settle as the sheriff would had come and kicked her out with nothing at all if she had not done so.

In fact my best man at my wedding in 2006 to my now wife was very disappointed that he could not come up with the written statement I had given him in 1982 where I had stated that I would never never remarried and grant any woman the power to upset my life to that degree again.

Never could understand how anyone could go through the emotional and financal trauma of a divorce and then turn around and get remarried in a short time frame.

It took me 25 years or so before I remarried.

BillRM
 
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Mon 19 Dec, 2011 08:02 pm
@FOUND SOUL,
Quote:
Girlfriend
Then Wife

Does that assist you Bill......

One tried to provoke you to be violent and the other clearly tried to provoke you ..

Mmmm...


You do know the girlfriend was David and the wife was mind correct or are you getting confused?

izzythepush
 
  3  
Mon 19 Dec, 2011 08:04 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
You do know the girlfriend was David and the wife was mind correct or are you getting confused?


Not as confused as you, by the sound of it.

Btw, if you want to avoid confusion, perhaps you should post in English instead of Gruntpigfuck.
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BillRM
 
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Mon 19 Dec, 2011 08:09 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
The 2 witnesses know what thay saw
but not what thay did not see elsewhere n elsewhen.


Could be however I was not living or seeing her for a few months before the slapping happen so she would had to have been lying about something that she claimed to had happen months before and also without any proof as any such claims would had been of nonevents.

Given that I had solid proof that she however did used violence on me and that I did not reacted with violence I can not see how such an order could still had stand if I had challenge it no matter what her lies happen to had been.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 19 Dec, 2011 08:12 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Given that I had solid proof that she however did used violence on me and that I did not reacted with violence I can not see how such an order could still had stand if I had challenge it no matter what her lies happen to had been.


Obviously your "good name" can't have been worth that much to begin with, or you would have challenged it, and to hell with the expense.
BillRM
 
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Mon 19 Dec, 2011 08:49 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Obviously your "good name" can't have been worth that much to begin with, or you would have challenged it, and to hell with the expense.


Easy enough to say when you are not in the middle of a personal and emotional and financial disaster.

At the time I remember taking it in and thinking well at least her lying like that removed all questions that no matter what the cost I need to get her out of my life as soon as possible.

But as far as mounting a drive to clear my name I was in survival mode and near to having an emotional break down so once my lawyer told me that I should forget about responding I did so.

Izzy had you ever gone through a divorce?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Mon 19 Dec, 2011 09:37 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Girlfriend
Then Wife

Does that assist you Bill......

One tried to provoke you to be violent and the other clearly tried to provoke you ..

Mmmm...
BillRM wrote:
You do know the girlfriend was David [??????]
and the wife was mind correct or are you getting confused?
Hay, Bill: WHAT THE HELL??????





David
firefly
 
  1  
Mon 19 Dec, 2011 09:41 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
once my lawyer told me that I should forget about responding I did so.

Why would a lawyer tell you not to show up for a court appearance?

He must have felt you weren't credible and that the judge would issue the Order of Protection to your wife.

firefly
 
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Mon 19 Dec, 2011 09:42 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
You do know the girlfriend was David

Quote:
Hay, Bill: WHAT THE HELL??????

Maybe BillRM is finally coming out of the closet. Laughing
OmSigDAVID
 
  1  
Mon 19 Dec, 2011 09:50 pm
@BillRM,

Quote:
so she might have had doubts about you too, or do ubts about letting you near her children. And now she sleeps with a gun...
BillRM wrote:
LOL I love your logic however after enjoying married life once it was I who was not in a hurry to tied the knot to put it mildly one more time.

Beside my peace of mind being destroyed I went from having a lot of savings and investments to almost needing to declare bankrupt in less then a year.

Was within days of having the bank take my home away before my then wife decided to settle as the sheriff would had come and kicked her out with nothing at all if she had not done so.

In fact my best man at my wedding in 2006 to my now wife was very disappointed that he could not come up with the written statement I had given him in 1982 where I had stated that I would never never remarried and grant any woman the power to upset my life to that degree again.
Y did u DO it????
BillRM
 
  1  
Mon 19 Dec, 2011 10:36 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Y did u DO it????


Yes I did it after having a relationship since 1985 with the woman.
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Ticomaya
 
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Mon 19 Dec, 2011 10:40 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:
Why would a lawyer tell you not to show up for a court appearance?

He must have felt you weren't credible and that the judge would issue the Order of Protection to your wife.

There are quite a few reasons why that might have been good advice. Not all have to do with credibility or culpability of the client.
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BillRM
 
  1  
Mon 19 Dec, 2011 11:08 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Why would a lawyer tell you not to show up for a court appearance?

He must have felt you weren't credible and that the judge would issue the Order of Protection to your wife.


He told me it was not worth challenging given that I had file for divorce and would shortly had her out of my life

Oh no court hearing as on the order or a letter that came with the order I forgotten that detail it stated that I would had needed to call the court clerk and request a court hearing to challenge the order within a certain time period.

The order itself was strange as it was not a keep away and no contact order but just an order for me not to assault her.

As assault is already a crime this order they gave her did not make any sense to me.

The only thing I could come up with is it would had make it easier for her to had me arrested on her word alone and would increase the penalties for any assault as not only would I had been breaking the assault law but a court order.

Hmm maybe it would had make it easier for them to hold me or greatly increase any bail also.

David or any other lawyer here had you hear of such orders?

Is it similar to a do not break the peace order?

Maybe I should dig it out of my safe and scan it in and after covering the names/number post the damn thing here as it was a strange order indeed.

BillRM
 
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Tue 20 Dec, 2011 12:52 am
@BillRM,
I did some research and it seem a just no assault order is the minimum domestic violence order that is issue allowing a couple to live together but holding over the head of the man that his partner can have him arrested plenty must on her word alone and the penalties will be a great deal higher then if the order did not exist.

As I was not living with her and had not assaulted her I bet that she ask for a must more restricted order that would keep me away from the house for sure but without any proof of her having been assaulted that is all they would grant her.

It must had been a disappointment to her but in any case until I was able to force her out and get my home back I did not revisited the house.

Hint never put a new wife name on a home that she had not put a cent into it is not a wise thing to do!!!!!!

In fact in community property states buy the house before you get married.

If you do otherwise you might find that even those you had kept paying all the utilities bills and other bills related to the home she had move boarders in without telling you.

I am surprise come to think of it that it only took me two and a half decades to be able to remarried.

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FOUND SOUL
 
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Tue 20 Dec, 2011 03:14 am
@firefly,
Oh dear what a twist:)
Thank's firefly for the clarification.

Think I'll just leave this carp where it belongs and check out worthwhile threads that maybe I can contribute "me" to...

Nothing here to watch, or add attention to anymore.





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izzythepush
 
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Tue 20 Dec, 2011 04:51 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Izzy had you ever gone through a divorce?


I'm a widower, but my good name means everything. I don't know how people can get married and then divorced in a year. It seems very immature to me, and part of the me now attitude that bollocks everything up.
FOUND SOUL
 
  1  
Tue 20 Dec, 2011 05:58 am
@firefly,
"Closet?: gave you a high "5" there ...Now gone...Smile
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FOUND SOUL
 
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Tue 20 Dec, 2011 05:59 am
@izzythepush,
Sorry Izzy about the death of your wife..

Take care, see you on another thread somewhere.

FS
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Ticomaya
 
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Tue 20 Dec, 2011 07:43 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:
Oh no court hearing as on the order or a letter that came with the order I forgotten that detail it stated that I would had needed to call the court clerk and request a court hearing to challenge the order within a certain time period.

Yes ... to clarify, I understood from the earlier post that the lawyer had advised Bill to not request a hearing, and had not advised him to fail to show up for an already scheduled hearing. These orders of protection are typically issued ex parte, and then the person to whom the order is served has the option to request an evidentiary hearing, or not, concerning same. Strategically, or merely from a cost perspective, it often makes little sense to challenge these types of orders, and I find they are handed out willy nilly with often very little in the way of basis.
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