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izzythepush
 
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Mon 5 Mar, 2012 01:23 pm
@BillRM,
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Of course as males we all need to be aware that we are the new blacks


You sad, sad, pathetic little man.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 5 Mar, 2012 01:46 pm
@firefly,
I think what Bill is trying to say, and most of his sources seem to support his story, is that he wasn't sitting in the park with kittens so he could abduct and rape children, he was sitting in the park with kittens so he could groom children. He wasn't planning on abusing them until he had befriended the family.
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firefly
 
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Mon 5 Mar, 2012 01:53 pm
@BillRM,
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The only reason that there was a problem was that I am a male and by the way I did google searches to find cases of evil pedophiles in parks in real life luring children with animals and could not find any. I am sure it must had happen somewhere and at sometime but if so it seems a rare event
.
It's all over the internet. Don't you ever read what's posted? Does everything have to be repeated to you? Do you see any reference to gender?
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Animal Lure: It's inevitable that if someone shows up with a puppy or kitten, kids will gather. Many abductors use animals to lure kids to them or their cars. Remind your kids never to go with any stranger either on foot or in a car, no matter how much they want to pet the animal!
http://www.kltv.com/story/2414388/common-lures-of-child-abductors

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Sorry dear in another posting you already been honest enough to agree that if it had been my wife or even if my wife had been along there would had been no problem in interacting with children is showing them the kittens in

No, I never said that. You're the only one making an issue of gender.

You interacted with children in that park in a way that made others regard you as creepy--just as people at A2K regard you as creepy,

Your point of view can be found on the pedophile activist Web sites--which, of course, are written by pedophiles. They also try to deny or "neutralize" their actions, so they will appear more "normal" or acceptable, as you are doing with your park incident, they raise civil rights arguments, etc. Now, why would someone be thinking, and sounding, like one of those pro-pedophile Web sites?
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BillRM
 
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Mon 5 Mar, 2012 01:56 pm
@firefly,
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How about the times women couldn't even apply for certain jobs, solely because of their gender. Or when women couldn't even vote


Sorry but it was males who fought the good fight with the women to get them the votes and as a young man I fought to get the ERA pass in the late 60s and even joined NOW in that time period.

Only giving up my membership when I could not get the local chapter to help out a woman who was being beaten half to death by her husband and I along with a lot of other good people both males and females did help her. This was before large government grants and fees like sire charges on marriage licenses fund women shelters and such and before the police department would act.

Injustice base on any such factors as race, religion, sex take away the freedom of all of us.

By the way did you campaign in the 60s for the ERA Firefly as a male I surely did and if I had been older I would had join the campaign for civil rights in the south.

Quote:
It's not about "men"--it's about the way you, in particular, interacted with the children in that park.


Sorry dear in another posting you already been honest enough to agree that if it had been my wife or even if my wife had been along there would had been no problem in interacting with children is showing them the kittens in plain sight of everyone else in the park and telling them if they wish to adopted one of the kittens they need to bring a parent over to agree to it.

Still somewhat confuse how someone sitting in the park in front of everyone in fact trying to draw as must attention as possible is a danger to children.

I somehow question it drawing that must attention would be the wish of a real pedophile out to grab a child.

But then logic and commonsense had never been your strong point.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 5 Mar, 2012 01:57 pm
@BillRM,
Listen to Bill, he was grooming children, he rapes them much later on. Sheesh give the guy a break.
OmSigDAVID
 
  2  
Mon 5 Mar, 2012 02:01 pm
@izzythepush,

Quote:
Of course as males we all need to be aware that we are the new blacks
izzythepush wrote:
You sad, sad, pathetic little man.
As a male, I don 't accept Bill 's representation.





David
izzythepush
 
  1  
Mon 5 Mar, 2012 02:03 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Neither do I.
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OmSigDAVID
 
  2  
Mon 5 Mar, 2012 02:03 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
Listen to Bill, he was grooming children, he rapes them much later on. Sheesh give the guy a break.
U r most unkind, in your characterization.





David
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firefly
 
  1  
Mon 5 Mar, 2012 02:08 pm
@izzythepush,
Quote:
Listen to Bill, he was grooming children, he rapes them much later on. Sheesh give the guy a break.

He's just another poor misunderstood pedophile. Oh, the harsh injustice he is being subjected to. Laughing
They won't let him go back to the park and interact with the children. And he loves children...such hardship he has to endure. Now he'll have to settle for the child porn.

OmSigDAVID
 
  2  
Mon 5 Mar, 2012 03:55 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Listen to Bill, he was grooming children, he rapes them much later on. Sheesh give the guy a break.
firefly wrote:
He's just another poor misunderstood pedophile. Oh, the harsh injustice he is being subjected to. Laughing
They won't let him go back to the park and interact with the children. And he loves children...such hardship
he has to endure. Now he'll have to settle for the child porn.
Thay won 't let him in the park ?

A private park ?
OmSigDAVID
 
  2  
Mon 5 Mar, 2012 04:23 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
How about the times women couldn't even apply for certain jobs,
solely because of their gender. Or when women couldn't even vote
BillRM wrote:
Sorry but it was males who fought the good fight with the women to get them the votes and as a young man I fought to get the ERA pass in the late 60s and even joined NOW in that time period.

Only giving up my membership when I could not get the local chapter to help out a woman who was being beaten half to death by her husband and I along with a lot of other good people both males and females did help her. This was before large government grants and fees like sire charges on marriage licenses fund women shelters and such and before the police department would act.

Injustice base on any such factors as race, religion, sex take away the freedom of all of us.
According to your reasoning,
do I have less freedom now because of the injustice
of children being screwn out of their natural right to vote??




BillRM wrote:
By the way did you campaign in the 60s for the ERA Firefly as a male I surely did and if I had been older
I would had join the campaign for civil rights in the south.
For the record: I opposed the ERA in that I did not
and do not want chicks to be exposed to the danger
of military conscription. I do NOT want them to get mutilated.
As a real American, I supported & I support laissez faire capitalism,
including 1OO% freedom of contract by everyone in the South and everywhere in America.
Government was never granted any Constitutional authority to interfere in that.
Government can only exercise such power by USURPATION based on fraud.





David
BillRM
 
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Mon 5 Mar, 2012 06:25 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
For the record: I opposed the ERA in that I did not
and do not want chicks to be exposed to the danger
of military conscription. I


David as a male I have all the instincts to protected females build in however those instincts are now far more harmful then helpful as in my opinion we had reach the point where we need all the human race as equal fully functioning members of society on or off a battlefield.

Take note also that for all of human history until a hundred years ago or so women ran far far far greater dangers in the birthing rooms then men did on the battlefields.

A man could expect to have a numbers of wifes as he would loss his partners during their ageless battle to bring new human life into the world.

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BillRM
 
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Mon 5 Mar, 2012 06:30 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
As a male, I don 't accept Bill 's representation.


Well we are all view now as likely a danger to the society children as a strange male lion is to the cubs when he approach a pride.

Then we are also view as likely rapists and so on.......................

BillRM
 
  2  
Mon 5 Mar, 2012 06:45 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
They won't let him go back to the park and interact with the children. And he loves children


Love other people children how odd of a statement.

I have some such feelings for my own step grandkids but children as a whole you got to be kidding me.

I was in that park that day on one and only one task to try to find homes for kittens that had shown up on my doorstep with their mother cat who ask for my aid as clearly as if she could speak English.

She was staving to death, with a skin condition and worms and yet she was still trying her best with her last bit of life to keep her kittens alive.

It took very costly and intensive vet care and even some hand feedings on my part to get the mother and her kittens away from death door.

But then you are a sick lady who love to think that all males can be broken down into two classes those who are eager to rape adult women and those who are eager to rape children.
firefly
 
  1  
Mon 5 Mar, 2012 07:01 pm
@BillRM,
Quote:
Well we are all view now as likely a danger to the society children...

Not all men. Just you.

No other man around here engaged with children in a park in a manner that alarmed the other adults who saw him..

No other man around here has made statements like, "I get my child porn by trading...".

Don't try to appear "normal" by desperately claiming that all other men are regarded the way you are, as a creepy perv--no one's falling for it.



BillRM
 
  2  
Mon 5 Mar, 2012 07:04 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Thay won 't let him in the park ?

A private park ?


No David I am living across the street from a very large and nice public park with playing fields that can even be light up at night as brightly as day for night games.

My wife was used to solving the problems of finding homes for puppies or kittens by her and or her daughters just going to such public places as parks and showing them and suggested I do so also with the kittens.

Not thinking how the fireflies of the world had convict people over the last decades that males are either likely rapists of adult women or child rapists
I carry them over in a large red cat carrier and sat on a bench with them.

In the hope that the children in the park would wish to adopt them and maybe pressure their parents to allow them to do so.

Kids did came around but not the parents and then this fearful looking female park employee came running up to tell me that I would need to leave the park at once as no animals are allow.

I look at her and told her that they are after all in a carrier and I was just trying to find homes for them.

If anything she begin to look even more frighten and then it dawn of me that I just had been label an evil pedophile.

Strange feeling indeed..............
OmSigDAVID
 
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Mon 5 Mar, 2012 07:14 pm
@BillRM,
What happened to Bill's Post: # 4,919,253???

Bill, r u OK ??





David
BillRM
 
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Mon 5 Mar, 2012 07:29 pm
@firefly,
Quote:
Not all men. Just you.

No other man around here engaged with children in a park in a manner that alarmed the other adults who saw him..
\

I should not be responseble for the irrational fears that people like you had been able to generate in the public mind.

Sadly given the numbers of adults in the park the chance that there was more then one pedophile among them is not all that small but those pedophiles will be likely found in the fathers, the boyfriends and the soccer coaches not someone openly trying to find homes for kittens.

Footnote I still had not as yet been able to find one real case being reported of a man trying to lure children in a public park with kittens or puppies.

I know it must had occur but google had been coming up empty for me.

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No other man around here has made statements like, "I get my child porn by trading...".


Strange you seems to love cutting out the last part of that statement why is that
firefly?

No dear I get my CP from trading with Federal judges was the whole statement so why do you feel the need to edit it?

I know you are far too honest to try to do a hatch job on me of the kind done on the black lady in the Obama agriculture department by a right winger who edit her speak to show she was prejudice against a white farmer when the whole speak show she was nothing of the kind.


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BillRM
 
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Mon 5 Mar, 2012 07:32 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
What happened to Bill's Post: # 4,919,253???


I had a miss and incomplete post that I had deleted and that might be the one you are referring to David.
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firefly
 
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Mon 5 Mar, 2012 07:33 pm
@BillRM,
You don't think pedophiles and child abductors try to lure strange children from the streets, parks, toy stores--anywhere they can find them unaccompanied by an adult? They don't grab them, they lure them, or try to, using things like kittens or puppies, or bribes, or requests for help.
I told you that happened to me when I was a kid--and I ran away from the man, which is what most children do. But, sometimes they find a vulnerable child who falls for the lure.
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Police warn of 2 potential child abduction attempts
KRISTEN ZAMBO
February 17, 2012

CALEDONIA — Police on Friday asked the public for help to find the man or men responsible for two attempts to lure a child into a vehicle in less than a week.

According to Caledonia police, two different vehicles pulled alongside children on Feb. 4 and Feb. 10 and a man tried to get the children inside. Both children fled instead, but investigators are trying to capture the man or men.

“We’ve saturated the area with patrols,” Detective Sgt. Brian Wall said Friday.

The first incident of potential child enticement occurred Feb. 4 near the intersection of 4 1/2 Mile Road and Chestnut Drive. A 9-year-old boy riding his bicycle to a friend’s house was approached by a man who asked if he wanted a piece of candy and a ride, Wall said.

“He was only a couple of houses away so he rode to the friend’s (house),” he said.

This man was described as white, 45 to 50 years old, cleanshaven, with a red face and black hair. He was wearing a black jacket and black winter hat. He left in a gold-colored, four-door Honda with black bumpers and damage to the front bumper, according to police.

The second incident occurred Feb. 10 near the intersection of Rachel Glen and San Dell Way, according to police. That’s when a 10-year-old girl was approached by a man just after she got off a school bus. The man said the girl’s name and tried to confirm it with her. He asked if she wanted a ride home, but she ran home instead.

“That one’s a little more disturbing because the guy knew her name,” Wall said.

That man was described as white, 45 to 50 years old and was driving a small, black, older-model car, according to police.

Wall said while detectives are investigating both incidents, they don’t yet know whether the two incidents are related.
http://www.journaltimes.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/police-warn-of-potential-child-abduction-attempts/article_d846ecb8-5981-11e1-871f-0019bb2963f4.html#ixzz1oILezjgo

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A judge sentenced a Brooklyn man to 30 years in prison today for sexually abusing underage children and producing homemade pornographic videos of his crimes.

Felix Cartagena also admitted that he distributed his videos and photographs over the Internet, sharing images of him raping children with other like-minded pedophiles using the Web, officials said.

Brooklyn Assistant US Attorney Michael Canty has called Cartagena's abuse of children - some as young as two years-old - perhaps "the most serious case" of its kind "in recent memory."

Cartagena would roam the streets, trawling for young children in "planned events" and then lure them back to his basement for depraved sessions of sexual abuse, the prosecutor said.

According to prosecutors at an earlier hearing, the 27 year-old man would tie his victims up, sometimes gag the child, and once put a BB gun to a toddler's head - then he photographed the child's abuse at his own hands.

"He has destroyed these children's lives. These are attacks that cannot be healed. They will live with this for the rest of their lives," Canty said.

FBI agents found more than 20,000 images of child pornography "carefully organized" in files, after they arrested Cartagena in 2010, the prosecutor said.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/klyn_creep_gets_years_for_child_u6NF040YKj2BE3uN9D5q0O#ixzz1oIOYTvTS

 

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