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Two weeks into Occupy Wall Street protests, movement is at a crossroads

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 02:15 pm
Even in Hamburg, Germany.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v97/imposter222/2011NOVPolandElbeCruise2011-11-16026.jpg
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 02:45 pm
@spendius,
For some reason this young man reminds me of you Spendius.

reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 04:59 pm
Very inspirational, Christians being involved with occupy wall street.

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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 05:13 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Wow! The relevance of graffiti!
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 05:14 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Worth much more than your post that offers nothing of value.
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reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 05:26 pm
I found this looking for occupy videos this is crazy do you think it is real? this guy does some very crazy things.

Occupy this.


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spendius
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 06:01 pm
@reasoning logic,
Quote:
For some reason this young man reminds me of you Spendius.


Perhaps you ought to consult a psychologist about that rl. I would definitely do so if I found my creativity at such an abysmal level.

If you can't afford one a priest might serve. The advantage of priests is that they don't get paid by the hour and thus keep their advice, in cases such as this, simple and short.
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Wed 21 Dec, 2011 06:17 pm
@spendius,
Are you trying to say that you do not share any of his concerns?
hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2011 06:03 pm
xkcd has attempted to graphically represent the cost of 'things' and incomes, fed budgets etc graphically - you have to click on the image and magnify to see the detail - I'm still trying to get my head around it, but it might be of interest - I'm still not sure what it's saying although the cost of presidential campaigns is pretty staggering

http://xkcd.com/980/
spendius
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2011 06:11 pm
@reasoning logic,
I don't rl. I didn't check out his concerns. Do you think I'll learn anything useful if I did? What were they in brief?
reasoning logic
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2011 06:19 pm
@spendius,
I thought he did very well at explaining what the problems are in your neck of the woods but I am sure that I could be wrong. He was just pointing out the corruption.
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hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2011 07:07 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
For Finn

http://i55.tinypic.com/egnxjr.jpg
roger
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2011 09:00 pm
@hingehead,
Nice rat!
hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2011 09:36 pm
@roger,
Speaking of which - where's yours? I can make that one an avatar for you if you want.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2011 10:04 pm
@hingehead,
Ahh hinge, where do I start?

This could get complicated because you've made such a muck-up of the issue.

hinge wrote:
Let's start with the blindingly stupid shall we?


The "blindingly stupid," I assume was intended to refer to this:

I wrote:
You object to "Occupiers" and yet employ "Teabaggers." Pretty rich.


Yours was the preface to an incoherent charge that led to an unfortunate and unnecessary dialogue within the thread

This is the comment to which I referred:

hinge wrote:
And at this point in time you appear to be saying that because 'occupiers' (what a neat pigeonhole that is) don't have representatives beholden to them for their election then none their concerns are legitimate.


Let's see:

You used quotes around occupiers which, if you know how to use punctuation, can only signify that you want to draw attention to the specific term and, very likely, that you question its legitimacy.

The latter contention is bolstered by your parenthetical crack: " (what a neat pigeonhole that is)"

Now, if this doesn't constitute an objection to the term "Occupiers," then I think I can be forgiven for assuming it was.

I suppose my comment may have been obtuse if you have never employed the term "teabagger" in this forum. Before I engage in a tedious search do you want to admit you have?

Somehow the use of "occutard" got mixed up in the dialogue. I've never used this term to describe the Occupiers, and your argument that I did use the term in referring to what H20man has posted is blindingly pathetic.

Next:

hinge wrote:
What you meant was I wrote posts you don't agree with so clearly I take drugs and have had a privileged upbringing. That's pretty typical of how your brain works - it reflects on you not me.


I deserved a swat for my misjudgment, but yours was quite lame.

I not only appreciate, I embrace drugs and affluence and so that was not the gist of my assertion. What I cannot abide are dilettantes, and, apparently, I was wrong in assuming you were one in the context of my criticism. I'll not question the veracity of your reply and so admit to have been wrong. If an apology will enhance your contentment, consider it proffered.

Next:

How wonderfully clever of you to isolate this portion of my quote “You've misjudged me,” and misrepresent it in a way that allows you take a shot and then appear not to be taking a shot.

The entirety of what I posted was:

“You misjudge me. My motto isn't ‘**** you Jack, I'm OK,’ it's ‘**** you Jack if you want what I have but are not prepared to work as hard as me.’”

I don’t mind telling all sorts of Jack, around the world, to **** themselves, but rarely if ever in so dismissive a manner as you’ve suggested. I appreciate that it fits your world view that affluent capitalists have no more consideration for the poor and unfortunate than can be expressed by “**** you Jack,” but that’s not the case with me or most of the people who share my capitalist produced affluence.

The Jacks who I would see ******* themselves are those who have made themselves poor and unfortunate through self-indulgence and poor decisions and who expect or even demand that I fund their rescue. If you can find it in your heart to spend your hard earned money on such Jacks, you’re a better man than I am Gunga Din.

hinge wrote:
I suspect you merge all the posters here who are left wing (to your mind) into one ubersocialist…


No I don’t. There are liberals in this forum and there are what I, for lack of a better term, call Liberals. I suppose I could use another of H20man’s terms, “libertards,” but I find any use of “retard” to be unnecessarily offensive. It is a way to distinguish Liberals from liberals though.

You certainly could be right that I tend to treat all Liberals as a manifestation of the same personality, but then they seem to beg for it.

Apparently, this bothers you in your so well honed, irony mannered way.

Tough.

You never miss a chance to take a swipe at me.

This is perfectly fine and dandy and part of the fair game, but you lose credibility (and my respect) when you choose to cast yourself as some sort of victim of the snorting wild bull that is Finn.

Save the psychoanalysis for someone who cares and stick with the meat of the subject.
Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2011 10:07 pm
@hingehead,
Does this mean that you believe graffiti is a significant vehicle for change?
hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2011 10:54 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Man Finn - your brain is so hamstrung your preconceptions that you see things that aren't there.

Quote:
Yours was the preface to an incoherent charge that led to an unfortunate and unnecessary dialogue within the thread

I'm assuming you mean you issued the incoherent charge?

I used 'occupiers' because I don't see them as a homogenous group - any more than I see tea partiers as a homogenous group. But why wouldn't your mind perceive and frame things in a way that suits your poisoned world view. As I iterate in http://able2know.org/topic/178110-74#post-4828670

As an example a post or two previously I said this

hingehead wrote:
I'm not aware of any schism on the 'left' (giggle)
here http://able2know.org/topic/178110-74#post-4828505 So I suppose you think I object to the term left too? I don't BTW, but I think what is considered 'left' in the US is quite laughable in the context of the full political spectrum.

Quote:
I suppose my comment may have been obtuse if you have never employed the term "teabagger" in this forum. Before I engage in a tedious search do you want to admit you have?


Of course I did, you twat, in one post that I apologised immediately for. In http://able2know.org/topic/178110-74#post-4828670

Quote:
Somehow the use of "occutard" got mixed up in the dialogue

Yes. By you. Here http://able2know.org/topic/178110-74#post-4828524

Quote:
If you can find it in your heart to spend your hard earned money on such Jacks, you’re a better man than I am Gunga Din.


Yet again a straw man argument. I wasn't arguing that you spill your hard earned. You're a lesser man than I am Gunga Snake (giggles insanely to self).

You're ranting. I often forego having a swipe at you - often you're not a dick, sometimes you are, and sometimes you're a dick and I keep my mouth shut. But if you say something I strongly disagree with I should not respond at all? Put me on ignore if you think I'm stalking you.

But really we were actually agreeing that there was little chance of there being an 'occupier' candidate. Then you flipped on a dime, posting this:

finn wrote:
And what rank do you hold hinge?

Lord of the cynical children of the affluent?

You flirt with anarchy as you probably flirted with heroin or cocaine.


here http://able2know.org/topic/178110-74#post-4829134

I can't imagine why I arked up.

PS you do the shittest apologies ever. You need to learn to fake sincerity Razz
hingehead
 
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Reply Thu 22 Dec, 2011 11:45 pm
@hingehead,
Oopsy

hingehead wrote:
Man Finn - your brain is so hamstrung your preconceptions that you see things that aren't there.


I meant
your brain is so hamstrung BY your preconceptions
failures art
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 10:46 am
@hingehead,
hingehead wrote:
I'm still not sure what it's saying although the cost of presidential campaigns is pretty staggering

That's not the cost of an election, that's the going price for a politician. Given the communication age, the cost of disseminating information has become far less expensive. The rise in campaign funding fits other agendas.

A
R
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spendius
 
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Reply Fri 23 Dec, 2011 11:51 am
@hingehead,
It is impossible for anybody's brains to avoid being hamstrung by their preconceptions.

You have a tautology on your hands their hinge.
 

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