Two weeks into Occupy Wall Street protests, movement is at a crossroads

I can only guess that those are not the only two examples because I have also seen where they helped people keep their homes that were being foreclosed on.

There's plenty of positives coming from the #ows movement, RL.

With the corporate-media attempting to convince people that the movement is both "dead" and "achieved nothing", it's best to just keep the notion of its existence alive.

The fact that a CEO of a major bank in England is willing to attend street debates staged by #ows, and admit that the movement was right about wealth distribution being a major problem, should be a wake-up call to the doubters here, but you know it's very difficult for some people to overcome their own misconceptions, and admit that they've been conned.

Hmmm, seems the police are starting up their own occupy movement.

Very interesting. http://www.occupypolice.org/

Oh please.

It is dead and it didn't achieve anything.

The CEO of a bank in England can be as loony as the mad drummer in a OWS shanty town.

Don't be so backward Finn, The City Of London is a major financial institution. Why do you think there was such a fuss over Libor?

Note Libor, not Nyibor.

When I worked in an international bank we found the American banks were second only to those in Africa in terms of being very parochial.

It's only "dead" if you believe the mainstream media, Finn.

Here's a documentary that will give you an insight into the banking system, and the cause of the GFC.

Narrated by Matt Damon, it's called Inside Job.

Lots of info that everyone should be aware of.

http://vimeo.com/20853241

And here's Ralph Nader, just last week mentioning the importance of #OWS objectives now, and into the future.

http://youtu.be/NO4UMbUNXbk

Abby Martin talks to author and former US Presidential Candidate, Ralph Nader, about the US electoral system and breaking out of the "lesser of two evils" mentality

I viewed The Truth Builder. It's all been voted for again just this week. You probably heard about it. "More of the same" was democratically approved.

There were two things struck me the most. The vast majority of the players could have changed out of their padded suits into NFL gear and would not have looked out of place. As long as they are not asked to run or catch the ball.

The other one was that the up-scale Madam was prominently displaying a crucifix in an interview I feel sure she took some time preparing for.

But the idea that the way to become middle-class was to work longer hours and borrow more money was interesting too. In that respect it might be worth your while to check out the "handicap principle" in evolution theory and the links some are making between it and Veblen's economic theories.

And Mr. Spitzer and Mr. Strauss Khan both brought down. As has the head of the CIA was just yesterday.

Do you think starting in Iceland was anything to do with that country being the only one to have officially declared testosterone overload to be the prime cause and promoted ladies to key positions.

It is well known that testosterone depresses the immune system. Only a person whose immune system is in shreds would dive at the endzone on a 4th and 2 at the 1 yard line with two defensive linebackers on a collision course.

In a general cultural climate in which testosterone induced depression of the immune system is greatly admired I don't see, from a biological point of view, how the situation could have been avoided.

The tendency in England is to stay well clear of testosterone excitation. Which is not to say it is unknown of course. Saturday night is probably the peak time.

The monastic ambience is specifically designed to reduce testosterone to a minimum and, ideally, to zero.

Not that it always does of course. Pointing to any failures is not a valid criticism of the design unless improvements to it are offered.

The video shows the occupy Sandy volunteer movement in NY, with interviews and contact details. Finn, tell me again it hasn't achieved anything.

http://vimeo.com/53155081

OK - It hasn't. An offshoot may have but an offshoot is just that. OWS can't take credit for the rational behavior of a splinter group.

Here's another one, Finn.

http://rollingjubilee.org/

Another offshoot of #ows that is raising money to help mortgagees in trouble.

Of course, you can continue to believe the corporate thieves who fill your infotainment channels with misinformation. Your choice.

And here we have a telethon and concert event to help bail out people in debt, rather than banksters who gambled and lost.

The People’s Bailout, a variety show and telethon to benefit the 99%-SOLD OUT w/Janeane Garofalo , Lizz Winstead , Hari Kondabolu , David Rees , John Cameron Mitchell , Jeff Mangum of Neutral Milk Hotel, Lee Ranaldo of Sonic Youth, Guy Picciotto of Fugazi, Tunde Adebimpe of TV on the Radio , Climbing Poetree , the Invisible Army of Defaulters , members of Healthcare for the 99% , Occupy Faith , and many more
Thu., November 15, 2012 at 8:00 PM

http://www.lepoissonrouge.com/lpr_events/peoples-bailout/

Oh, and late edit, forgot to mention the user-owned news aggregator that is also an offshot of #ows.

http://www.pressrate.com/beta/index.php

But do we know if anybody actually benefits other than the organisers?

Where are the occutards now?

Before their coffin is finally nailed shut, we have to wait for the weather to get mild throughout the country. These are literally fair weather revolutionaries.

Goes to show that many humans are good people! Keep the faith.

I guess we will smell them once again as the temperatures rise.

Like stirring ****. Oh wait, thats watermans job.

Why would you need to ask a question like that? You do listen to people like Herman Cain; Rush Limbaugh; and Sean Hannity; don't you?