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Is dating someone who's a different race okay?

 
 
Eva
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 08:04 pm
@GracieGirl,
GracieGirl wrote:

28 years?! Shocked Oh gosh. Laughing

Oh wow. That looks even longer in print! I must be...ancient!!!Laughing <looks in mirror...OMG! I AM! when did THAT happen?!>

But Eva, you could be happy and love some one for the rest of your life without getting married. Did getting married make you love him more than when you were just boyfriend and girlfriend?

Yes, it did. Knowing that he was willing to make that deep a commitment to our relationship made me love him even more. It makes me realize just how much he loves me.

I just don't see why everyone thinks marriage is soo important. Why would I wanna be stuck with one person for the rest of my life? How do you even know if you marry the right person? What if the person changes? it would just be easier to not get married, I think. Why is that sad? Sad

Marriage IS important. It's a lifetime commitment. There is something endlessly mysterious and wonderful and constantly changing about living with one person for many years. You have known your father for 13 years...is that too long? Of course not! No amount of time is too long when you love someone. You get to see them through many phases of life, and know them more completely. I believe, for most people, life is better when it's not lived alone. Perhaps that's why statistics show that married people live longer than single people.

I know a lot of people who are happily married, Gracie. I think it's sad that you do not. Perhaps one day you will...or maybe you will figure out how you could be married on your own terms. Your life doesn't have to copy anyone else's, y'know. And if you never marry, that could turn out OK, too. Marriage certainly isn't for everyone.


Never say never. You're right. I could end up married in the future....or not. LoL Laughing Laughing
Lustig Andrei
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 08:16 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

GracieGirl wrote:
But yeah, I dont know when my dad's gonna 'let me' date. I kinda still date guys anyway but he doesnt know about it. Rolling Eyes
Like Romeo n Juliet; I hope u reach a better result.
David


I do hope you all realize that in Shakespeare's play Romeo and Juliet are 14-year-olds.
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firefly
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 08:22 pm
@GracieGirl,
Quote:
Im getting tired of talking about married people though. I cant get married for atleast another 5 years anyway. LoL

I'm finding all these people trying to sell you on marriage rather funny. Good grief, they aren't even giving you a chance to begin dating first. Laughing

I really admire your patience, and your humor, in dealing with them. And I'm definitely paying you a compliment (in case David has doubts about whether I'm being condescending Laughing). I'd probably be ready to scream, "ENOUGH ALREADY!".

GracieGirl
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 08:45 pm
@Eva,
Haha! Laughing You're not ancient! Laughing But 28 years is a suppeerrrr long time to be married. Very Happy

I see what you're saying Eva. And yeah, you make being married sound great and wonderful but I cant really picture it being like that. I guess that is kinda pathetic huh? Smile

But yeah, marriage is more important than I thought it was I guess. And It cant be too bad if you've been a married person for soo many years. I like the way you describe marriage and stuff and I kinda want it to be like that for me too when Im older but I dont know. If I do get married Im gonna be really careful. I only wanna get married once if I decide to give it a chance. I have time to think about it. Smile

You're good at explaining things Eva. Thanks alot I mean it. And I hope you and your husband stay married forever and stay happy and stay loving each other. Hopefully I'll get lucky and end up like you guys or sozobe when Im older. Smile Very Happy

(This part includes the awesome Mrs.Eva but its for everyone elso too. Very Happy)

You guys are really awesome. I always learn alot of new stuff and you guys always give me advice and help when I need it. Im really glad I found this website. Thank you!! Mr. Green


I think Im done talking about marriage and stuff now. Laughing Can we get back to the original questions now guys? We're WAYY off topic. Haha! Laughing

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GracieGirl
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 08:54 pm
@firefly,
firefly wrote:

Quote:
Im getting tired of talking about married people though. I cant get married for atleast another 5 years anyway. LoL

I'm finding all these people trying to sell you on marriage rather funny. Good grief, they aren't even giving you a chance to begin dating first. Laughing

I know right?! Jeez! Haha!! Laughing Laughing

I really admire your patience, and your humor, in dealing with them. And I'm definitely paying you a compliment (in case David has doubts about whether I'm being condescending Laughing). I'd probably be ready to scream, "ENOUGH ALREADY!".

Thanks! Yeah, I know everyone is just trying to help or whatever but I've screamed "Enough Already" about 100 times in my head throughout this thread! Haha! Laughing



No, really. It's fine. Mr. Green I like hearing what you guys think and getting advice and everything. I know WAYY more about marriage than my friends do, now. Laughing Laughing
Eva
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 09:46 pm
@GracieGirl,
"I have time to think about it."

I think that's the smartest thing I've heard you say, Gracie! Yes, you have LOTS of time! Firefly may think I'm trying to "sell you on marriage," but I'm really not. I was just trying to give you another point of view to think about, since you haven't seen many successful marriages up close. I'm glad you got it! Enough said!

And to answer your original question... Yes, dating someone who's a different race is okay. Times have changed. You may get criticized by some old-fashioned bigots, but who cares what they think anyway?! The important thing is to find someone who understands you and wants the same things in life that you do. It's not that important what color eyes or hair or skin they have.
BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 10:13 pm
@firefly,
Firefly no one is trying to sell her on marriage as my concern is only her comment about out of wedlock child bearing being the way to go.

Others wish to give her information that being married is not as big a risk as she happen to think it is in relationship to becoming divorce.

Firefly I love you patting a 13 years old girl on the back and offering her support to having children out of wedlock.

Good going Firefly.............
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 10:25 pm
@BillRM,
wedlock is a funny word, bill.

how do you think it came about...?
GracieGirl
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 10:52 pm
@Eva,
Thanks Eva! I dont think Firefly meant you when she said that. "Selling me on marriage". You shared some experience and it helped. Smile

You're soo right about dating people who are different! Mr. Green

Im super exhausted. Like, Im gonna pass out. Laughing Laughing I'll probably posts a few more times then sign out. I don't know what time it is where you are but GoodNight Eva!! Mr. Green
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 10:55 pm
@GracieGirl,
she's in the middle near me.


say goodnight, gracie...
GracieGirl
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:05 pm
@BillRM,
Bill there's nothing wrong with having children out of wedlock. Just because you dont like it doesnt mean its wrong. You can't force people to think the same way you do.

Firefly isnt patting me on the back and even though its nice, I dont need her support or anyone elses'. It's good to know that someone thinks that I could grow up to be a good mom even though I dont wanna get married. Rolling Eyes Yeesh!

You've said it a thousand times,'wedlock harms kids' and I've said it over and over and over that I disagree. My dad's parents are married and he hates them and he hates his childhood.

I heard you the first 50 million times. WEDLOCK HARMS! I got it, but Im gonna do what I want and its stupid to argue about it when Im not even a grown-up yet. Rolling Eyes Neutral
GracieGirl
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:05 pm
@Rockhead,
GOODNIGHT! SIGNING OUT! Very Happy Very Happy
Rockhead
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:08 pm
@GracieGirl,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9a5FUpMaa2U&feature=related
firefly
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:39 pm
@GracieGirl,
You're right, GracieGirl, I wasn't referring to Eva.

On the other hand, that old guy who keeps harping on your having out-of-wedlock children...Laughing Laughing Laughing Even after you've said you're not even sure you want to have children. Laughing Laughing Laughing

Anyway, back to the topic....

Do you think your friend's mother was, perhaps, simply being overly protective when she suggested there were a lot of nice white boys she could date? I think it is fine to date anyone you like, regardless of their race. But interracial relationships can raise antagonisms in other people, and, sometimes, those people can take out those antagonisms on one or both members of the interracial couple. I might want to protect my 13 year old daughter from that sort of thing--from possible bullying, or taunting, or nasty comments, or hurtful behavior--which might go on in school or one of the social media Web sites--because of a particular dating relationship they were in. That wouldn't necessarily mean I was a racist, it would mean I was worried about someone else hurting my kid because of their racial attitudes. I might be much less worried about that sort of thing if my child was older-at least in college--than I would be when she is 13, for a variety of reasons. If my daughter was just starting to date, I think I might prefer to see her in a relationship that's as free from potential tensions, and complications, and conflicts, as possible, including those tensions, and complications, and conflicts, that might occur outside the relationship.

I'm just suggesting a different perspective on why your friend's mother might have made the remark she did.

Does interracial dating go on in your school? If so, does it create any sort of problems for the people involved?

saab
 
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Reply Mon 19 Sep, 2011 11:54 pm
@firefly,
Very well said.
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roger
 
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Reply Tue 20 Sep, 2011 12:54 am
@GracieGirl,
GracieGirl wrote:

GOODNIGHT! SIGNING OUT! Very Happy Very Happy


No No No. "Say goodnight, Gracie" has only one answer. It is "Goodnight, Gracie. It comes from the old vaudeville comedy team of George Burns and Gracie Allen known as Burns & Allen. Burns fed her the straight lines and Gracie, as the dumb blonde got the laughs. At the end of their later tv show, they did a humorous dialog which ended when George said "Say goodnight, Gracie." She always responded with "Goodnight, Gracie." I guess you kinda had to be there.

They were well liked people.

Edit: I see Rockhead posted a video.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 20 Sep, 2011 05:24 am
@GracieGirl,
There is something very very very wrong with not giving a child the best start in life that is possible whether you think otherwise or not or if adults fools are patting you on the back over your free thinking ways.

It is not a religion moral concern of any kind for me it is an economic and social concern of bringing children into the world without both parents having made a strong and public commitment to supporting and raising those children together in a stable home.

Even as an atheist I need to concur with the religion people that it is immoral to do so even if we happen not to agree on the basic reasons why it is immoral to do so.
wayne
 
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Reply Tue 20 Sep, 2011 05:41 am
@BillRM,
You speak as though the issue were a simple matter of action A results in B, which is certainly not the case.
There is absolutely no guarantee that marriage results in a stable home.
Single parent homes are no less likely to provide stability for a child.
Some of the worst damage is, in fact, done in the case of failed marriages and dysfunctional marriages.
Marriage, while an admirable pursuit, is not the perfect world it was once thought to be.
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 20 Sep, 2011 05:52 am
@wayne,
You are one hundred percents right Wayne there are no guarantees of any kind in life however there is setting up a situation where a bad outcome is far more likely then it would otherwise be.

Bringing a child into the world without a strong and legal commitment by the parents to raise that child together in a stable home mean that the chances of that child ending up being raised in a far poor environment is greatly increase over having both partners being committed at the start.

There are all kind of firm statistic on this subject just a Google search always.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 20 Sep, 2011 05:55 am
@Rockhead,
THANK U, Rocky!
I had forgotten that Carnation is the Milk From Contented Cows.





David
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