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Kiss My Ass Irene

 
 
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 08:14 am
Just dropping by with a word of encouragement. Hope all my friends and acquaintances stay safe.
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JPB
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 08:15 am
@JPB,
Glad to hear from Bear and engineer that everything is ok with you and yours. Squinney posted on FB a little while ago so she seems to be fine.

North of New Bern seems to be the rainfall winner with 10+" and counting.
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jespah
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 08:17 am
Long Island evacuations (looks to be Nassau County only) and here's Suffolk County (looks to be just way out on the East End).
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blueveinedthrobber
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 08:19 am
@engineer,
Very Happy
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 08:46 am
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
My bitch is that the "Storm of the Millenium" bullshit that was being pitched by the Weather Channel and taken up by local stations is despicable reporting
hawkeye10 wrote:
NO different than NYC doing evacuations for the first time or Amtrak shutting down the NEC for the first time for a storm that hit North Carolina as a CAT 1.........there is zero chance this degree of panic is warranted,
That is how I see it.
The data thay give us do not support the emotion thay give us.





David
JPB
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 09:10 am
11am updates show a stalling Irene and a track back towards NY/NJ.

http://icons-ecast.wunderground.com/data/images/at201109_model.gif
http://icons.wunderground.com/data/images/at201109_model_zoom.gif
http://icons-ecast.wunderground.com/data/images/at201109.gif
http://icons-ecast.wunderground.com/data/images/at201109_sat.jpg
http://radblast-mi.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/radar/WUNIDS_map?station=AKQ&brand=wui&num=40&delay=15&type=N0Z&frame=0&scale=1.000&noclutter=0&t=1314444467&lat=36.02166748&lon=-75.68067932&label=Kill+Devil+Hills%2C+NC&showstorms=0&map.x=400&map.y=240&centerx=400&centery=240&transx=0&transy=0&showlabels=1&severe=0&rainsnow=0&lightning=0&smooth=1
http://radar.weather.gov/ridge/lite/NTP/MHX_loop.gif
JPB
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 09:20 am
additional 72 hours rainfall predictions.
http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/d13_fill.gif
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 12:19 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
That is how I see it.
The data thay give us do not support the emotion thay give us.
Bloomberg is spreading panic to atone for the snow storm last year that he took little interest in that sacked the city for days, and Obama is jumping at the chance to talk about something other than the economy and his other failures in office. We shall see after the storm if the citizens appreciate the shutting down of the transit systems and the theatrics ...they might well decide that they would rather have had stuff working as it has during worse storms than this, and that government can't tell the truth.
JTT
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 12:33 pm
@hawkeye10,
Quote:
We shall see after the storm if the citizens appreciate the shutting down of the transit systems and the theatrics ..


First you tell us that this is all one big staged event then you tell us that the citizens won't appreciate these officials shutting down the theatrics. Can you make up your find, for gosh sakes, Hawk!
Smile
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 12:37 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:
We shall see after the storm if the citizens appreciate the shutting down of the transit systems and the theatrics ..


First you tell us that this is all one big staged event then you tell us that the citizens won't appreciate these officials shutting down the theatrics. Can you make up your find, for gosh sakes, Hawk!
Wow, for an english major you are certainly having trouble with english today.

We shall see after the storm if the citizens appreciate the shutting down of the transit systems and appreciate all of the theatrics.

Better?
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 12:44 pm
@hawkeye10,
The weather service is calling for winds up to 80mph and rain over two days of up to 8 inches for New York City...the wind prediction has already gone down once but I bet that sustained winds end up less than 70 mph and rain less than 6 inches...in other words not a big deal, certainly no reason to bring the city the never sleeps to a nearly complete stop.

as for storm surge and Flooding, minor.

This is going to go down as an expensive blown call....another whack to Bloomberg's evaporating reputation.

EDIT: current prediction is surge 4-8 feet....in other words they dont know, but considering the surge when the storm first hit land was 3.4 foot this prediction looks inflated to me. 300,000 + people are going to wonder why they were forced from their homes for this.
Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 12:52 pm
Some amazing images from NASA:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hurricanes/archives/2011/h2011_Irene.html

Examples:

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/582642main1_3D_20110826-irene-670.jpg

http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/582594main1_Irene.A2011238.1630.250m-670.jpg

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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 12:59 pm
@hawkeye10,
Interesting that noaa gives the prob of a 4 ft surge on the east side 40-50% prob, on the West side 50-60%... the claimed 8 ft surge possibility on the West side is 5%.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/psurgegraphics_at4.shtml?gm
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 01:01 pm
@hawkeye10,
They aren't shutting down just based on the speed of this hurricane's winds. They're also going on prior history when heavy rains have flooded and shut down the subway system.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/08/flooding-cripples-subway-system/

Quote:
“The cause of the cascading outages across the mass transportation system this morning was the inability of our drainage system to handle what was, we believe, three inches of rain within a one-hour period,” Mr. Spitzer said. The drainage system was designed to handle only about an inch and a half of rain over an hour, he said.

Governor Spitzer said it was the third time in seven months that a sudden downpour of rain had led to “a total outage of our mass transportation system,” although the two previous failures were not nearly as severe and dramatic as today’s.


http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/08/why-do-the-subways-flood/

Quote:
The paralysis of the subway system this morning has happened before. On Aug. 26, 1999, and Sept. 8, 2004, to be specific.

In 2004, torrential downpours associated with Hurricane Frances inundated the city with more than two inches of rain an hour. Hundreds of thousands of commuters were stranded. The 1999 downpour brought 2.5 to 4 inches of rain over two hours.

As Ian Urbina of The Times explained in 2004, a quick, heavy rainfall can be a formula for chaos in the city’s subways.

As rainwater seeps through tunnel walls and flows down subway grates and stairwells, sump pumps in 280 pump rooms next to the subway tracks pull the water back up to street level. That water then naturally flows toward the storm drains — but the storm drains themselves are often unable to handle the flow of water.
...
The fact is we have a 100-year-old system, and that is a constraint. We may be dealing with meteorological conditions that are unprecedented.


JPB
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 01:04 pm
The 2pm updates auto-loaded above. Another very small shift to the west bringing NY and NY more into the center of the target.
Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 01:04 pm
@Butrflynet,
Hawkeye, If you want to shriek about government's response, shriek about the fact that they could be putting people to work fixing the problems with their 100 year old system so the subways don't shut down every time it rains heavily.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 01:10 pm
@Butrflynet,
Butrflynet wrote:

Hawkeye, If you want to shriek about government's response, shriek about the fact that they could be putting people to work fixing the problems with their 100 year old system so the subways don't shut down every time it rains heavily.
And lets be mindful that the NEC (North East Corridor rail line) is in such bad shape that it routinely loses power and shuts down these days, normally part of it goes dead at least once a week. It is a disgrace....it used to go years or most of a decade without major power failures, back in the days before Amtrak ran it. We are not willing to pay for it, the last major maintenance was during the early 80's....it needs about $10 billion to fix it right, $40+ billion if we want to put modern trains on it, but no soap.
JPB
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 01:26 pm
@JPB,
JPB wrote:

The 2pm updates auto-loaded above. Another very small shift to the west bringing NY and NY more into the center of the target.


Er... that's NY and NJ.

I also notice that she's down to 12mph. That's not good.
farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 02:10 pm
@JPB,
I hate it the way you people ignore DELAWARE!!! WHAT ARE WE CHOPPED LIVER?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Butrflynet
 
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Reply Sat 27 Aug, 2011 02:35 pm
This is hilarious. Prior to this, this Weather Channel guy spent 15 minutes hyping it up about how bad the winds and rains were while standing in the wind tunnel between buildings. He then berated all the drivers behind him who were out and about. Soon after that, some pedestrians decided to have some fun with him.

There is a brief moment of lunar and frontal nudity as some guy's low riders fall off.

 

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