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Obama's Ties To The Christian Brotherhood

 
 
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2011 06:34 pm
@parados,
I will not read your post after you make your first post when you quote only part of my response. You've been told that, yet you still do it and then whine about it like you are now when I don't read your entire post. I don't know what else to tell ya. Your demands are not going to be fulfilled. Take it or leave it.
Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2011 06:57 pm
@JTT,
Of course you are a hypocrite . You hate 300 million people, hold no war criminals responsible for their actions but trace everything through the most tenuous connections back to the USA . Have you proven they were responsible for the sack of Carthage yet ?

Quote:
That wasn't name calling
Very Happy And war criminals are not responsible for the actions . They are like poor hippies, badly maligned by Western Imperialist Running Dogs...right ?

You are a ******* bad joke .
JTT
 
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Reply Sun 12 Jun, 2011 11:26 pm
@Ionus,
Have you proven that you're not a war criminal yet?
Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 02:01 am
@JTT,
Are you the only person who doesnt see how stupid you are ?
parados
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 07:13 am
@Renaldo Dubois,
And you have been told you don't get to dictate the way other people post here. If you don't like it then take your ball and go home.


Meanwhile..
You claimed the Muslim Brotherhood was a terrorist organization..
You said the FBI supported that statement.

But the only evidence you provided was a statement by Mueller where he said "elements within the Muslim Brotherhood support terrorism".

I can only continue to point out your faulty logic which you refuse to defend. Instead you try to make me the issue by claiming you don't like the way I present my argument.

So.. let me ask you again Renaldo.

Can a group be a terrorist group if they never commit a terrorist act?
Is support of terrorism the same thing as being a terrorist?
If elements of a group support terrorism then is the entire group terrorist?
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 09:23 am
@Ionus,
You're the one who keeps bringing up the issue as to whether you are a war criminal, Ionus.

Given your level of anger against women and people of Arab background, and given that your elevator doesn't access your top floor, it's certainly a possibility.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 09:25 am
@parados,
I will do what I please. If you don't like it then cry and whine to someone else. When you edit my words then you will only get a response to what you reply to the first time. Your choice. No one is dictating anything to you. You just don't like it because I will not let you play your silly game with me. Grow up.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 02:21 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
I see... you prefer to play your silly games it seems

You lied to us about what the FBI said.

Now when confronted with your lies you make it about those people that pointed out your lies.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 02:41 pm
@parados,
Show us the lie.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 02:42 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
I already did.. numerous times.

Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 02:44 pm
@parados,
Show the lie.
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parados
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 02:51 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Here.. Let's look at his statement again

Statement by Mueller to Congress -
Quote:
“Elements of the Muslim Brotherhood here and overseas have supported terrorism,”


Care to explain how that equates to
http://able2know.org/topic/172875-6#post-4634774\
Renaldo wrote:
The muslim brotherhood is a terrorist organization


Your statement is at best a logical fallacy or an outright lie.
Your refusal to even examine the fallacy shows that is more likely to be an intentional lie on your part.

But you go even further Renaldo..
You stated this
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

The muslim brotherhood is a terrorist organization and has committed and supported acts of terrorism.


Where does the FBI state that the Muslim Brotherhood has committed terrorism? You have presented ZERO evidence in support of your statements. Your statements are factually incorrect. This is your support for your statement

Renaldo Dubois wrote:

Are you calling the head of the FBI a liar?


So.. in conclusion..
1. You are lying when you claim Mueller referred to the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 03:07 pm
@parados,
That isn't a lie. It is a fact that there are members of the Muslim Brotherhood who fund and support terrorism. The FBI said so. Are you a masochist?
parados
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 04:01 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
So.. the USA is a terrorist country then because it is a fact that some US citizens support terrorism.

This leads to the conclusion that your argument with JTT is disingenuous on your part and should be considered a lie.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 04:10 pm
@Renaldo Dubois,
Renaldo Dubois wrote:

That isn't a lie.
It is a lie on your part. It has been explained to you several times.
Quote:
It is a fact that there are members of the Muslim Brotherhood who fund and support terrorism. The FBI said so.
I never denied it but you didn't make that claim. You made THIS claim..

Quote:
The muslim brotherhood is a terrorist organization
The FBI never said that.

There is a difference between some members doing something and the organization doing something.

Some male members of congress are homosexual. Are you arguing all members of Congress are homosexual?
Some statements by you are lies. Are you arguing ALL your statements are lies?

You clearly are making a fallacious argument Renaldo. Some is not the same thing as all. The FBI didn't say that the Muslim Brotherhood was a terrorist organization like you claimed. They said SOME elements support terrorism You are attempting to pass your fallacious conclusion off as fact and pretending the FBI said something they didn't.


Quote:

Are you a masochist?
Why do you want to make the issue me instead of YOUR statements? Is this another attempt at a fallacious argument on your part? You seem to be filled with them.
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 04:18 pm
@parados,
Quote:
So.. the USA is a terrorist country then because it is a fact that some US citizens support terrorism.


Certainly that, Parados, and the fact that US governments have regularly engaged in and do regularly engage in all manner of terrorist activities.


parados
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 04:23 pm
@JTT,
And you want to apply your logical fallacy only to the US while exempting everyone else.

You are as guilty as Renaldo is JTT in letting ideology trump logic.
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 05:04 pm
@parados,
Quote:
And you want to apply your logical fallacy only to the US while exempting everyone else.


Not in the least, Parados, but nice try. I've never given the slightest hint that I want to exempt anyone from being held accountable for war crimes.

Don't get yourself bogged down in Ionus type drivel. I believe that you are brighter than that.
Renaldo Dubois
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 05:30 pm
@parados,
There's now law against believing whatever you want.
parados
 
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Reply Mon 13 Jun, 2011 05:30 pm
@JTT,
On several occasions you have refused to talk about other war crimes. You always seem to want to only bring up US war crimes in threads that have nothing to do with the US or with war crimes.

It's you that gets bogged down in drivel JTT.
 

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