Obunga: Palestine must be based on 67 borders........

If for some reason Americans started acting like a bunch of Palestinians and murdering Mexican children, and Mexico rightfully defended themselves from the murderers, anyone who was attacking Mexico would not be a patriot. They'd just be an evil child-killer like the Palestinians are.

Nasty diatribe..... Like all the anti-Semitism that's been vomited all over the thread?

Man you are twisted,

You're avoiding the occupation part, the land stealing,

the constant humiliation and the slaughter.

I'll say again if Mexico OCCUPIED part of the States and demolished US towns and built Mexican settlements on US land, OH and sent a million American refugees off to say, Canada. Would you then think you had the right to resist.

Here's the death toll since 2000.

Although i'm sure in your warped mind it's all one sided and Israel are fully justified and completely without fault.

Don't bother answering, like i said to the other fanatic i've heard enough diatribe for one day.

Nah. I just won't let your Jew hatred go unchallenged.

if you could just spew vile anti-Semitism and no one ever spoke up to challenge your hate.

BOTH sides have.

Are you retarded?

Maybe the 1940s would have turned out differently if the Germans who were like me had been willing to stand up to the Germans who were like you.

Maybe your phony posturing would amount to something if you were willing to stand up and call out the terrorists/mass murderers that are the US governments.

Nope. Not an atrocity for Jews to defend themselves when people try to murder them.

Oralloy wrote:

Nope. Not an atrocity for Jews to defend themselves when people try to murder them.

So Mr high IQ, by you're own logic,

Nope. Not an atrocity for Palestinians to defend themselves when people try to murder them.

You see it's people like you who ferment this trouble, who cant see there's blame on both sides.

I think you've done some excellent research.

The main problem with Gunga is that he is so motivated by nothing but bitterness and hatred, that he cannot possibly conceive of anyone being motivated by anything else.

My IQ is higher than you can count.

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My IQ is higher than you can count.

An oft repeated bit of silliness that finds no support in what you write, Oral.

No such terrorism or mass murder, at least not within the past hundred years.

Well, to begin with, what is terrorism? Got to say something about that. That is supposed to be a really tough question. Academic seminars and graduate philosophy programs and so on -- a very vexing and complex question. However, in accordance with the guidelines that I mentioned, I think there is a simple answer, namely, we just take the official U.S. definition of terrorism. Since we are accepting the pronouncements of our [US] leaders literally, let's take their definition. In fact, that is what I have always done. I have been writing about terrorism for the last twenty years or so, just accepting the official definition. So, for example, a simple and important case is in the U.S. army manual in 1984 which defines terrorism as the calculated use of violence or the threat of violence to attain goals that are political, religious or ideological in nature.

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So who wins the prize for the worst acts of terrorism in the Middle East in 1985? Well, I know of three candidates, maybe you can suggest a different one. One candidate is a car bombing in Beirut in 1985, The car was placed outside a mosque. The bomb was timed to go off when people were leaving to make sure it killed the maximum number of people. It killed, according to the Washington Post, 80 people. It wounded over 250, mostly women and girls leaving the mosque.

There was a huge explosion so it blew up the whole street, killing babies in beds and so on and so forth. The bomb was aimed at a Muslim sheik who escaped. It was set off by the CIA in collaboration with British intelligence and Saudi intelligence and specifically authorized by William Casey, according to Bob Woodward's history of Casey and the CIA. So that is a clear-cut example of international terrorism. Very unambiguous and I think it is one of the candidates for the prize for the peak year of 1985.

READ ON FOR MORE US TERRORIST ACTIONS AT,

http://www.chomsky.info/talks/200202--02.htm

No such terrorism or mass murder, at least not within the past hundred years.

Oralloy wrote:

No such terrorism or mass murder, at least not within the past hundred years.

CHOMSKY: Well, for example, the United States happens to be the only state in the world that has been condemned by the World Court for international terrorism, would have been condemned by the Security Council, except that it vetoed the resolution. This referred to the U.S. terrorist war against Nicaragua, the court ordered the United States to desist and pay reparations. The U.S. responded by immediately escalating the crimes, including first official orders to attack what are called soft targets -- undefended civilian targets. This is massive terrorism. It is by no means the worst, and it continues right to the present, so for example...

Your dislike of facts does not make them silly.

Chomsky is evil and a liar.

And speaking of Chomsky and terrorism, Chomsky was pretty upset over his buddy Osama being killed.

As for Nicaragua, the US has not targeted any civilians in Nicaragua within the past hundred years.

Well, in 1986, the International Court of Justice condemned the United States for international terrorism -- "unlawful use of force" -- in its war against Nicaragua. Again I am going to keep to the guidelines, bend over backwards, and allow this to be interpreted just as international terrorism, not the war crime of aggression. So we will call it "international terrorism." The court ordered the United States to terminate the crimes and to pay substantial reparations, millions of dollars. Congress reacted by instantly escalating the war by new funding...

Nicaragua took the matter to the Security Council, which debated a resolution calling on all states to observe international law, mentioning no one but everyone knew who was meant. The U.S. vetoed it. Nicaragua then went to the General Assembly which passed similar resolutions in successive years. The United States and Israel opposed and in one year they got El Salvador [to join them].

http://www.chomsky.info/talks/200202--02.htm

Oralloy wrote:

No such terrorism or mass murder, at least not within the past hundred years.

The Philippines kinda started off the mass murder, on the international scene at least. Genocide against Native Americans had long been going on, fully supported and instigated by US presidents.

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Well, to begin with, what is terrorism? Got to say something about that. That is supposed to be a really tough question. Academic seminars and graduate philosophy programs and so on -- a very vexing and complex question. However, in accordance with the guidelines that I mentioned, I think there is a simple answer, namely, we just take the official U.S. definition of terrorism. Since we are accepting the pronouncements of our [US] leaders literally, let's take their definition. In fact, that is what I have always done. I have been writing about terrorism for the last twenty years or so, just accepting the official definition. So, for example, a simple and important case is in the U.S. army manual in 1984 which defines terrorism as the calculated use of violence or the threat of violence to attain goals that are political, religious or ideological in nature.

So who wins the prize for the worst acts of terrorism in the Middle East in 1985? Well, I know of three candidates, maybe you can suggest a different one. One candidate is a car bombing in Beirut in 1985, The car was placed outside a mosque. The bomb was timed to go off when people were leaving to make sure it killed the maximum number of people. It killed, according to the Washington Post, 80 people. It wounded over 250, mostly women and girls leaving the mosque.

There was a huge explosion so it blew up the whole street, killing babies in beds and so on and so forth. The bomb was aimed at a Muslim sheik who escaped. It was set off by the CIA in collaboration with British intelligence and Saudi intelligence and specifically authorized by William Casey, according to Bob Woodward's history of Casey and the CIA. So that is a clear-cut example of international terrorism. Very unambiguous and I think it is one of the candidates for the prize for the peak year of 1985.