Robert Gentel wrote:
You can't possibly be that daft. It should be obvious that not all cases of "defending yourself" are created equal
It is not obvious to me.
I still refuse to believe you are this daft, something must be getting lost in translation here.
Are you saying that all forms of self-defense are perfectly equal in scope, intensity, proportionality etc? Because that is quite obviously absurd. It is clear that the nature of responses can vastly differ.
There is nothing even remotely disproportionate about Israel's defense.
If anything, Israel is far too restrained.
We disagree there too, but that wasn't even the point of disagreement we were having and I'm not going to get into the political part of the discussion. I am just trying to see if you are capable of awknowledging basic logic. That a lack of proportionality and self defense are not mutually exclusive concepts.
You tried to rebut a claim of lack of proportionality with an argument that it is self-defense. Whether it is self defense or not is irrelevant to the question of whether it is proportional, these are distinct concepts and I just want to see if they can both occupy your brain at the same time or if you really are gonna double down on the strength of conviction and insist that disproportionate responses and self-defense are mutually exlusive concepts.