Osama Bin Laden is dead

For me it was your room temp. beer.

So you are not completely without taste, Bill.

I guess I'm not patriotic then, my favourite beer is Czech. I'll choose a bottle of Urquell pilsner, or original Czech Budweiser over anything.

I love it! Falklands off the coast of Scotland!

Americans are always criticized, justly so, for not knowing geography, but when my daughter was an au pair in France, she and her Danish friend, would be hit on by guys who always asked where they were from. When Ann-karina would say, "denmark," a recurring answer was, "Oh, the capitol of Amsterdam."

Here, of course! I've never been to England.

You never had a serious conversation with friends about why Americans are Anglophiles? That was a huge topic, beginning with the popularity of British invasion bands.

When I went to the opening of the Monte Python film at the Detroit Institute of Arts, possibly in '72 or '73, after having been separated from my hippie grad school friends, I was reunited with them at the movie's showing.

In between the Beatles on Ed Sullivan and the showing of the film, there were many conversations about America's envy of England.

Monte Python was another reason. The American born painter and fabric designer Kaffe Fassett (who has a cult following among quilters) moved to England in the '60s because the English have a better sense of humor than Americans do.

I always like that one too, Izzy. Do you like it cool, cold, ice cold or room temp?

Most of the European beers were skunky by the time they were bought. I've always wondered if Heinken is actually made skunky.

I like it cold, but I usually have it at room temp, or kitchen temp (I've got a cold kitchen) because the fridge is usually full.

Talking of Heineken, I've been to Amsterdam five times, and still not visited the Heineken brewery. The heineken export on draught is a hell of a lot better than the stuff they have in cans.

Finn


I know it was a slog going through that list but it was included

I just learned from a source I trust (Mr.Irish) that Osama was killed in his underwears!

That's some clever ****

"Talking of Heineken,"

I ordered a Heineken bottle last night at my gig and just drank half.
The word "skunky" comes to mind.

One of the banes of my existence is that I can no longer find Whitbread Pale Ale at my grocers.

Want me to ship you a Lone Star?

It's better if you note someone who has been drinking it, follow them into the can and ask them to go in a bottle. The skunky taste is mellowed out, Pan.

I'd love to have watched you do that bud!

I'm not much for beer but I do like some west coast california ales like red tail and downtown brown, and some mexican beers - I think of mexican beer best cold, with good food, in vibratingly hot weather. Have tried Heineken and Harp, have no memory of it. Probably haven't tried Guiness stout. Never did try italian beer, Perone. Too much good wine available at the time..

On being an anglophile - I've two irish american friends (as am I) who are gaga re England. Maybe they put me off of it early, as I probably do to others by always going on about Italy and its wonders while not going on about Italy's deep and complex problems. Plus, I don't really understand the irish being -philic re England.

This isn't that I'm not interested in England - I like a lot about it - but I'm just not describable as an anglophile.

On the language differences between the US english and England's english - obviously the US's is derivative. On the other hand, I think the differences were in part purposeful; at least I've read as much about some early US authors purposely making changes to distinguish the two.. Alas, no links on that, even though I read something about that again in the last month or two.

I enjoy both modes, and their variations, and I'll add Australian to that too. On Canadians, their usage seems much as ours - I don't know enough about variations to comment further.

You're right, Osso, and of course those changes had to come. Language is used to describe one's world, not the worlds of those distant.

"You're right, Osso, and of course those changes had to come. Language is used to describe one's world, not the worlds of those distant."

I agree

And dammit, I can't dredge up where I last read about that purposeful change.
I remember three articles that interested me recently about authors; one was about Ismail Kadare (Albania); one about Theodor Fontane (Germany); the other about Blankedy Blank (early U.S.)

Obviously all versions have changed re local usage, getting richer all the time, with local splintering making the soup thicker.

Oh, and Osama bin Laden is still dead.