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Osama Bin Laden is dead

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 08:08 am
@OmSigDAVID,
If that were so he would not have acted as if Bin Laden had written his script for him. There was a huge amount of internatioal goodwill for America following 9/11. Even Iran was feeling compassion. Jack Straw flew out to Tehran, and got some level of concorde established. Iran had had problems with Afghanistan and the Taliban and so was sympathic.

Bush decided to piss all that away with his 'Axis of Evil,' speech. He then waged an illegal war against Iraq. So not only did he wind up the Iranians but he then strengthened their hand in the region. Basically Bush's presidency can be summed up by trying to prove that Bin Laden was right, that America is a crusader force dedicated to the subjugation of Moslems. Bush was so stupid he even used the word crusader.

I'm sorry Dave but I can't think of one accomplishment of the Bush administration, and I have tried.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 08:24 am
@farmerman,
I think that david is in the SPED chapter of MENSA.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 08:25 am
@izzythepush,
Very Happy
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panzade
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 10:18 am
@izzythepush,
Izzy says
Quote:
I'm sorry Dave but I can't think of one accomplishment of the Bush administration, and I have tried.


paul krugman agrees

Quote:
These days Americans get constant lectures about the need to reduce the budget deficit. That focus in itself represents distorted priorities, since our immediate concern should be job creation. But suppose we restrict ourselves to talking about the deficit, and ask: What happened to the budget surplus the federal government had in 2000?

The answer is, three main things. First, there were the Bush tax cuts, which added roughly $2 trillion to the national debt over the last decade. Second, there were the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which added an additional $1.1 trillion or so. And third was the Great Recession, which led both to a collapse in revenue and to a sharp rise in spending on unemployment insurance and other safety-net programs.

So who was responsible for these budget busters? It wasn’t the man in the street.

President George W. Bush cut taxes in the service of his party’s ideology, not in response to a groundswell of popular demand — and the bulk of the cuts went to a small, affluent minority.


yadda yadda yadda...read the rest of this editorial
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/09/opinion/09krugman.html?_r=1&src=ISMR_HP_LO_MST_FB
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 10:31 am
@izzythepush,
According to Lash, Bush was responsible for the flowering of democracy in the ME.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 02:01 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
I'm sorry Dave but I can't think of one accomplishment of the Bush administration, and I have tried.
He saved us from Kerry n from Al Gore.
He has my gratitude.

He also took out Saddam (as his dad shoud have done).





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 02:03 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme wrote:
I think that david is in the SPED chapter of MENSA.
In the NY Chapter; we have the biggest Chapter in the World.

Thank u for your interest.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 02:38 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Now you are demeaning MENSA.
Obama had been invited in because his LSATS were in the 98=%ile. and MENSA only requires 95%.
As a scientist, u shoud know better
than to go around making inaccurate assertions.
In 1945, Mensa was established for the top 1% of I.Q.s,
but we did not get enuf female women. That is IMPORTANT,
so we took it down to the top 2%; i.e. the 99th and the 1OOth percentiles.
(We r a social club and we DON 'T wanna have the female gender underrepresented.)

Your "95%" claim has no basis in fact (and then u accuse ME of "demeaning" Mensa).



farmerman wrote:
NOONE has similarly accused George W Bush of being MENSA material. Or have I missed something?
I don 't know W 's I.Q.,
but he graduated from some prestigious academic institutions
and he was 2ice elected Governor of Texas.
That may be some evidence.

I don 't look upon him as a friend.
I 'd have preferred a more conservative Republican President
than either of the Bushes. Reagan chose Bush for ideological BALANCE.





David
JTT
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 02:44 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Reagan chose Bush for ideological BALANCE.


Really? Which one supposedly balanced out the wacko ideology? Was Bush a little less of a war criminal or was he the one who pushed Reagan to greater war crimes?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 02:56 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
If that were so he would not have acted as if Bin Laden had written his script for him.
There was a huge amount of internatioal goodwill for America following 9/11.
I resented that.
Mentally, I rejected that.
In my posts on Internet fora, I said so.






izzythepush wrote:
Even Iran was feeling compassion.
Speaking as an American citizen: I don't want that.



izzythepush wrote:
Jack Straw flew out to Tehran, and got some level of concorde established.
Iran had had problems with Afghanistan and the Taliban and so was sympathic.





izzythepush wrote:
Bush decided to piss all that away with his 'Axis of Evil,' speech.
I approve of his statements,
ESPECIALLY the one of the "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED".
We went there to overthrow Saddam; we DID it.
We shoud have brought the troops home then.





izzythepush wrote:
He then waged an illegal war [??] against Iraq.
Izzy, will u be kind enuf
to explain to me WHAT is "illegal" about that war???????
Inquiring minds wanna know.

What statute did he violate??????





David


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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 03:08 pm
@JTT,
David wrote:
Reagan chose Bush for ideological BALANCE.
JTT wrote:
Really? Which one supposedly balanced out the wacko ideology?
Reagan' s ideology was simply playing it straight,
acting as the Founders of this Republic woud approve,
fully consistent with his duties under Article 2
of the US Constitution and avoiding deviation therefrom.
I will not claim that he was absolutely 1OO% perfect, but he was close.
The Bushes were never conservatives.
I disapproved of Reagan 's choice when I heard it.

(Sadly, candor moves me to admit that Reagan's filosofy qua the War on Drugs
and against freedom of abortion were not in accord with the Founding Principles.)






JTT wrote:
Was Bush a little less of a war criminal or was he the one who pushed Reagan to greater war crimes?
WHICH "war crimes" r these ??





David
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 03:13 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
I'm sorry Dave I stand corrected. That's a legacy to be proud of. I'm sure historians will take note.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 03:53 pm
@izzythepush,
izzythepush wrote:
I'm sorry Dave I stand corrected.
That's a legacy to be proud of. I'm sure historians will take note.
Yeah, that 's what historians do.





David
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jcboy
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 05:02 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Did you forget what Bush said about OBL? "I don't know. I don't really think about him very much. I'm not that concerned."
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 06:40 pm
@jcboy,
jcboy wrote:
Did you forget what Bush said about OBL?
"I don't know. I don't really think about him very much. I'm not that concerned."
I did not take much notice of it. (I did not think much of him, either.)
What is your point?
plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 10:54 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
This is david's response:
Quote:
In the NY Chapter; we have the biggest Chapter in the World.


To this:
Quote:
I think that david is in the SPED chapter of MENSA.


Obviously, my reference flew about three feet over his head.
plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 10:55 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
we did not get enuf female women


Were there enough male women?
plainoldme
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 10:58 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
Reagan' s ideology was simply playing it straight,

That's not an ideology.
Quote:
acting as the Founders of this Republic woud approve,

You certainly are misinformed about the FFs.
tenderfoot
 
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Reply Tue 10 May, 2011 11:40 pm
@plainoldme,
plainoldme...
That's not an ideology........ of course it is, to poor dum David, it's in his mind as it dwells in idiocy, not ideology.
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Wed 11 May, 2011 02:01 am
@OmSigDAVID,
David, I'm not going to go into the nitty gritties of international law. Suffice it to say we've had various select committees over here that have agreed that the UN resolution was not sufficient to start a war. George Bush never accomplished the mission, the mission was to find the weapons of mass destruction not kill Sadam.

You said that speaking 'as an American,' you didn't want the compassion of the Iranian people.' What about their co-operation? How many British and American soldiers were killed by Iranian funded/sourced weapons in Afghanistan and Iraq? I think things would have been a lot better if Iran hadn't have wanted to help blow our troops up. I think Arlington cemetery and Wootton Basset would have seen a lot less business. I think that would have been a good thing.
 

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