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Osama Bin Laden is dead

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 03:53 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Quote:
I don't think that's the sole reason we were providing that aid to Pakistan.
We shall see how fast it drys up now. China has already said that it expects the US to largely withdraw from the region, and says that it is ready to take over.
Quote:
The exchange of views between China and Pakistan on assessing how to maintain closer coordination and cooperation is to address the uncertainties in the region in the context of the United States aiming to scale down or withdraw forces from July 2011,” Rong Ying, vice president of the China Institute of International Studies (CIIS) and an expert on China’s relations with Pakistan, told The Hindu.

“Now with the death of Osama bin Laden, this kind of coordination and consultation is even more significant,” he added.
http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/article1985265.ece
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 04:09 pm
@hawkeye10,
Apparently you get a lot for 1 million in HAbadababad. I gotta check the paper real estate section.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 04:09 pm
@hawkeye10,
I will add that last year a Pakistani official said publicly that the government had fears that once Osama was gotten that the Americans would abandon them again. Given past performance and the desire of the Amercian people to cut the costs of government and to stop playing global police man this is a very high percentage bet. The fact that it now looks like the Pakistani's hid Osama for years so that they could continue to collect their $1 billion a year makes this pretty much a lock.
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 04:11 pm
@hawkeye10,
ALSO, we support India in any popularity contest.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 04:15 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

ALSO, we support India in any popularity contest.
India has money to buy stuff from us, that is the big difference. And they are anti China, another big plus. We just last week lost a multi billion dollar fighter jet sale package to Europe, but we still expect to sell many billions of dollars worth of war goods to India over the next few years...as in they give us money in return, unlike Pakistan where we pay for it.
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 04:20 pm
@farmerman,
With each successive post, your signature line is becoming clearer all the time, Farmer.
snood
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 04:30 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

With each successive post, your signature line is becoming clearer all the time, Farmer.


Yours captures your substance perfectly.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 04:34 pm
@hawkeye10,
hawkeye10 wrote:
Predictably the fast dumping of the body at sea is being seen by Islamic scholars as another disregard of their faith by the American cowboys...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110502/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_bin_laden_sea_burial
Thay said that it had been dumped in the water b4 the public was alerted to the killing.
I wish that it had been saved for taxidermy.

Put it in the Smithsonian Institute, in front of the Imax Theaters.
(Some have suggested putting a ham sandwich into his hand.)

Thay coud have moven it to the WTC Memorial Museum,
when that is ready.

We shoud have done that with Saddam n his boys, too.





David
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 04:40 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Did you see where US officials were trying to float the explanation that the body was dumped at sea because they did not figure that any nation would agree to take it??? America is known for bold faced lies like this, but it still makes me sick. Everybody knows why we did it, so why lie about it?
Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 04:48 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
Funny, I never took you for a ghoul, Soz.
Very Happy Tell us about all those rapes and breasts being cut off you sick **** .
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Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 04:48 pm
@JTT,
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Gotta hit the propaganda skillet while its hot.
The Vietnam War is over, right ?
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Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 04:51 pm
@JTT,
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he was summarily executed?
You are quick..... have you had a gallon of those smart drinks again ?
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Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 04:54 pm
@JTT,
Quote:
hapless brown skinned people of arab descent
Who crash plan loads of people into buildings.....you are not mentally well.....what do your professional help say is wrong with you ?
Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 04:56 pm
@farmerman,
Quote:
CAn I start a fund to buy you a ticket to Yemen?
Actually, FM, they dont want her.....once they got a GOOD propaganda officer, they didnt want her anymore .
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 05:07 pm
@Ionus,
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Who crash plan[sic] loads of people into buildings.


Fled the other thread because you couldn't stand facts being put in front of you and you show up here, doing the same old desperate song and dance routine.
JTT
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 05:31 pm
@farmerman,
Farmer, you sound like h2oman.

How does factually pointing out that some group or other has committed or commits war crimes "demonize" that group. I'd say the facts do the "demonizing", not the pointing them out.

That's simple honesty.

US misadventures, mistakes, errors in judgment, ...

That's dishonesty, Farmer
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Ragman
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 05:53 pm
@hawkeye10,
Wait, wait...but did you hear that the 'body dumping' was done according to Islamic tradition? Wonder if they're Islamic sharks that munched on bin Laden's toes?
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High Seas
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 05:55 pm
@joefromchicago,
joefromchicago wrote:

High Seas wrote:

Do you know if - legally - "burial at sea" involves wrapping up the body in a sheet and dropping overboard, or is there an anchor / chain wrapped around as well?

I don't think that's so much a legal matter as it is a religious or practical matter. Fortunately, I've never had to dispose of a body at sea -- at least not intentionally.

Thank you. Under Islamic rules only people who die at sea can be buried at sea - not the case in Abbotsville (sorry can't remember local version of name).

Wonder why Saudi Arabia refused to take in his body for burial. Their "empty quarter" is an endless sea of sand - that's where they dispose of their hapless dissidents. No swords, no beheadings - just drive them out couple of hundred miles into the desert, push them off the truck, drive back. Doesn't take long after daybreak to get to 120 Fahrenheit in the shade - and there is no shade. Nobody even finds their bones. Unmarked graves are OK in Islam.
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Ionus
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 05:57 pm
@JTT,
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Fled the other thread
What thread ? Very Happy
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sozobe
 
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Reply Mon 2 May, 2011 06:20 pm
This is an interesting point -- I knew the components but hadn't put 'em together:

Quote:
Obviously one can argue that any president with this type of intel could have and would have done the same as President Obama. Fair enough. Yet, what strikes me the most is this: The C.I.A. tracked down the courier last August to the compound in Abbottabad. By September "the C.I.A. had decided that there was a “strong possibility” that Bin Laden himself was hiding there."

If you recall, this was all happening while Obama and the Democrats were getting crushed in the polls. Any President could have taken the information, simply bombed the hell out of the compound, claimed they killed for Bin Laden for a nice "October surprise" to score political points. Obama not only decided not to do this, but not even a whisper of it leaked out. That to me is something this president could have done and did not do. I'm not sure every president would have done the same.


http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2011/05/an-october-surprise-that-could-have-been.html
 

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