The Communist Origin of the Modern Conservative Movement VI

@hightor,

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Probably not.

You are likely right, but it will be because of people like you, Joe Biden and the other weak leftists who want to see China as the next super power.

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OP did neither.

He did both.

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As has been explained to you before, the Chinese aren't "communists". .

That's exactly what apologists like you claim.

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The country is an example of one party "state capitalism".

There is no such thing as capitalism in China, not even close. This is just another term for communism, none of those "businesses" are owned by people, they are all owned by the govt of China. They have people on paper so the companies would be more acceptable to people like you. They really do have you fooled don't they.

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That party is called the "Communist Party" but the country's political system is not communist at all.

You have said this before but have failed to provide any proof of the claim. It's more like a head in the sand mentality and the quick hopes of dropping on your knee's to your new masters before they kill American ass. You don't seem to understand how China see's the rest of the world, you've been taken in by their indoctrination.

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Pointing out that the 1918 flu originated in the USA is hardly "attacking" the country. Don't so sensitive.

If you think those comments related to the 1918 pandemic, then you are not as smart as I thought. For Zardoz, it's an overall attack on the US and a favortism towards China. Remember the rocket conversation or the very fact he believes any of the virus information coming out of the China is enough to prove the point. He thinks China did a wonderful job and hasn't lied to the world at all, while the US is just the worse and did nothing correct despite new info that shows we killed our economy for no reason. Zardoz's daily death masturbation count proves that point. We have been under 1000 deaths in the US for over a week, the way Zardoz and the left report it, we are still seeing over 5000 deaths per day...

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The Trump political rally is going on despite the fact it is illegal any place in the country. A study from China showed that out of 319 coronavirus outbreaks only one occurred outside. That means that people at the Trump political rally are 318 times more likely to get coronavirus to take home to their families. There should be a preacher at the door of the Trump rally drawing an S with ashes on their head telling them that “from dust they came and dust they shall return,” soon.

Today we have 2,205,567 cases of coronavirus, yesterday we had 2,159,787 cases of coronavirus. That means that another 45,780 Americans came down with coronavirus today.

The death toll now stands at 119,741, yesterday the death toll stood at 117,893. That means another 1,848 Americans died today.

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@coldjoint,

You knew you were taking a chance driving a race car especially before all the safety equipment was developed but in pales in comparison to risk going to Trump's rally which will be at least a thousand time more dangerous.

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@Zardoz,

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You knew you were taking a chance driving a race car

No, you said you were, and I asked you a question. You wished other risk takers dead, did you wish it on yourself?

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@Baldimo,

The massive outbreak of coronavirus in Oklahoma has been the subject of the evening news all week. The Bing coronavirus tracker will provide all the information you need.
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The study from China proves an inside rally is 318 times more likely to spread the coronavirus than an outside event.
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The protests are civil disobedience they could have been arrested but they are not as likely to spread the coronavirus. Trump knows his rallies are hundreds of times more likely to spread the coronavirus but he does not care.
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There was a glitch in the site yesterday today it shows over 45,000. The two day average would be 25,000 cases of coronavirus.
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Outside protests are not nearly as likely to spread the coronavirus. Inside rallies are hundreds of times more likely to spread the coronavirus.
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The death toll today was approaching 2,000 wait till a couple of weeks after the Trump rally, each one death will be one less Trump voter come November.

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@Baldimo,

Everything happened at that Trump coronavirus briefing as described that is why he canceled all the future briefings because he looked like such a complete idiot.
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If you actually watched the briefing you weren’t paying attention. It was all the press talked about for a week. There has never been a president who is that stupid.
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You can call it bleach or you can call it disinfectant it is the same thing and Trump could not understand why if it killed the coronavirus why you could not take it internally.
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The only media claiming it was no worse than the common cold was Rush Slimbaugh and that is who Trump listens to. If Slimbaugh says it, Trump thinks it must be true. When a city of millions is in total lockdown and the hospitals are full and they are constructing more hospitals. That was happening in January how could it possibly be transmitted but person to person. You were witnessing that live on television everyone knew exactly how the Chinese were getting coronavirus. It was two rednecks down south who drank the bleach after Trump told them to. They survived despite how stupid Trump is.
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China would not of quarantined a city of millions if they were getting from the water. There is only one reason to quarantine people and that is that the disease is spreading person to person. If it was spread from rats, they would have killed the rats and not quarantined people. If it was spread in any other way there would be no need to quarantine people. Trump did not lock down the borders he loaded thousands of people with the coronavirus and seeded them all over the country to air bases that were not equipped to handle them and Trump spread the coronavirus from sea to shinning sea. Coronavirus was raging in Europe where we got most of our coronavirus. As people flew back from Italy where 800 people were dying a day and were surprised that their temperature was never checked. Trump closed the door after he let in the first million cases of coronavirus in. Then he says see I locked the country down after the fact.
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Trump was busy flying people sick people with coronavirus into the country. Only Alabama put their foot down and refused to let Trump fly the coronavirus into their state.
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Fauci is a talking head for Trump he will say what ever Trump tells him to say. All you had to do was watch television as a major city was quarantined. The history of pandemics tells you they spread round the world. The flue does it every year. We can’t even contain the flue let alone coronavirus.
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Diseases know no country, they have no nationality, they have only a beginning. If today a vicious virus began in Kansas slaughter houses as it did in 1918 it would spread round the world and kill millions before a vaccine was developed. When it gets down to what happened to America is Trump’s fault first, he spread coronavirus has four times as many coronavirus cases than any country on earth and then he claimed it was no worse than the common cold. America. Trump is spectacular failure.

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@Zardoz,

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Everything happened at that Trump coronavirus briefing as described that is why he canceled all the future briefings because he looked like such a complete idiot.

You are lying again, it did not happen the way you and the media described it, if you had, you would know he mentioned having a Dr. involved in the decisions you make. He never said the word bleach, that was you and the media.

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If you actually watched the briefing you weren’t paying attention. It was all the press talked about for a week. There has never been a president who is that stupid.

I was paying attention, he never said bleach and never said you should drink anything. If he had, you would have provided a link were he uses those words.

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You can call it bleach or you can call it disinfectant it is the same thing and Trump could not understand why if it killed the coronavirus why you could not take it internally.

See, these are the games you play and why you can never be trusted, you insisted he told people to drink bleach, now you are changing your claims.

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The only media claiming it was no worse than the common cold was Rush Slimbaugh and that is who Trump listens to.

Wrong again, it was the entire media who was saying this, to include the WHO and CDC. Remember Nancy Pelosi inviting people down to all those Chinese New Years parties that were taking place in China town? The media made sure to play those tapes of the Dems encouraging people to go to the festivals...

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When a city of millions is in total lockdown and the hospitals are full and they are constructing more hospitals.

Except those events never took place. The hospitals of NY were never over run and they never used those "field hospitals" that they built. In fact the city of NY never needed half of the stuff they were saying they needed. The Gov and Mayor both lied and people died because of the panic they created. How many old people died in those old folks homes because they were forced to be taken?

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That was happening in January how could it possibly be transmitted but person to person.

This is the lie you keep telling. China and WHO both claimed until the end of Jan that there was no human to human spread of the virus. In fact Taiwan was the only one at the time trying to warn the world of the human to human spread but they were ignored by the WHO in favor of China... those are the facts, nothing you have claimed here is fact. It's an attempt to rewrite history.

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It was two rednecks down south who drank the bleach after Trump told them to. They survived despite how stupid Trump is.

You keep repeating that lie, he told no one to drink anything.

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China would not of quarantined a city of millions if they were getting from the water.

You actually have no idea what China would do about things. We know they welded doors shut to keep people inside... we also know that millions died in China and that they are lying about how much it spread and how many it killed. China can't be trusted, they let this spread around the world to weaken the worlds economies, did you see the buying spree they went on over the last several months? Your masters are coming for you.

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Trump was busy flying people sick people with coronavirus into the country.

You mean he was letting US citizens and legal immigrants back into the country? This is funny, because if he had prevented them from coming into the country, you would have claimed he was abandoned US citizens and had something else to complain about. This is why your fake outrage is a joke, you don't really care.

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Fauci is a talking head for Trump he will say what ever Trump tells him to say.

Fauci has worked for the same govt agency for over 30 years, since 1984, does that mean he has been a mouth piece for every President since Reagan? Is that why you don't like him?

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When it gets down to what happened to America is Trump’s fault first, he spread coronavirus has four times as many coronavirus cases than any country on earth and then he claimed it was no worse than the common cold. America. Trump is spectacular failure.

Enjoy your propaganda.

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@Baldimo,

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The hospitals of NY were never over run and they never used those "field hospitals" that they built. In fact the city of NY never needed half of the stuff they were saying they needed.

After they took drastic steps to close down the city — including shutting down the subways overnight — were able to arrest the speed of transmission. The dire warnings were based on the trajectory of the curve as seen at one time. Conditions changed because people largely complied with the lockdown. That's why they didn't need the hospitals, or the ventilators, or for that matter, millions of doses of Trump-hyped useless hydroxychloroquine — that's a good thing. One would almost think you were disappointed more people didn't die. And no, it wasn't necessary for every city and locality in the country to go as far as NYC did but the specific conditions there made it imperative.

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You mean he was letting US citizens and legal immigrants back into the country?

Exactly. Without screening any of them for symptoms. Many of them came from Europe — the majority of them disembarked in the NY metro region. 430,000 people returned from China in the two months following Trump's order. How do you think the disease got here?

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@hightor,

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After they took drastic steps to close down the city — including shutting down the subways overnigh

Yeah, like more than a month after the pandemic was declared, did they finally shutdown the subways and clear them... for the first time in 115 years. May 6th was the shutdown, when did NY go on lock-down? NY lock-down started about March 20th, subway shut down, May 6th.

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The dire warnings were based on the trajectory of the curve as seen at one time.

Dire warnings, yeah that was the problem, they didn't need to issue dire warnings and put the whole country into lock-down. It should have been done based on actual science and not projections written by someone who has a history of being drastically wrong. In fact so wrong, that a google search for "virus models wrong" provides a plethora of articles making excuses for why they were wrong and what we can learn from them. Never mind the fact we destroyed one of the best economies in history on over hyped data from non-medical experts.

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Conditions changed because people largely complied with the lockdown. That's why they didn't need the hospitals, or the ventilators, or for that matter, millions of doses of Trump-hyped useless hydroxychloroquine — that's a good thing.

They weren't needed because the models were completely wrong, it had nothing to do with the lockdown or or well people followed the tiny tyrants rules.

The one study that was used to "discredit" the HCQ claims has been withdrawn because of poor data collection. Image that...
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-52929916

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An influential article that found hydroxychloroquine increases the risk of death in coronavirus patients has been retracted over data concerns.

Three of the study's authors said they could not longer vouch for its veracity because Surgisphere, a healthcare firm behind the data, would not allow an independent review of its dataset.

Its findings led the WHO to suspend its testing on the anti-malaria drug.

But leaders including US President Donald Trump continue to tout its use.

Surgisphere chief executive Sapan Desai, the study's fourth author, told The Guardian newspaper he would co-operate with an independent audit but said transferring the data would "violate client agreements and confidentiality requirements".

This article was from June 4th, I wonder why it wasn't given the same airtime the original story was given to discredit HCQ. Could it be MSM bias? Even you didn't know about the study, proving my point about the airtime.

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One would almost think you were disappointed more people didn't die.

Yeah, nice switch around. You and Zardoz are the ones watching the daily materbation death count. I'm disappointed that we destroyed an economy and put millions of people, including myself, out of work for faulty models and because of a media that hated our current President. Much like Zardoz and you, they are now hooked on the death and destruction that the US is becoming, and it only happened in a few short months because of the left. WTG guys!!!

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And no, it wasn't necessary for every city and locality in the country to go as far as NYC did but the specific conditions there made it imperative.

Bullshit, there was never any reason for the rest of the country to take the same steps that NY did. There were no specific conditions, there was hyped reports of a deadly virus that had mainly killed the elderly and people with weak immune systems. Healthy people for the most part don't know they are sick, you don't quarantine the healthy, you quarantine the sick.

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Exactly. Without screening any of them for symptoms.

Yeah, which symptoms were they looking for back then? The 2 week or 4 day soak time? How about if they were asymptomatic, which it seems a majority of people were? Tell me again with your current knowledge what they were suppose to do 3 months ago, 4 months ago or even 5 months ago?

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Many of them came from Europe — the majority of them disembarked in the NY metro region. ?

We were talking about the shutdown of travel from China, why are you changing the subject? Easier to duck and dive for Zardoz if you change the subject.

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430,000 people returned from China in the two months following Trump's order. How do you think the disease got here?

Look around, it was a virus, did you really think it wasn't going to spread across the world? Did you think the US is a magic place where virus's don't spread?

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Trump will look like Scarface with an UZI mowing down republican voters with coronavirus instead of bullets at his upcoming political rally. This shows that Trump does not care for the American people anymore than the Kurds that help us defeat ISIS who Trump left behind. It seems Trump is all for concentration camps in China as long as the Chinses make a deal to help Trump get reelected.

We have 2,228,902 cases of coronavirus today, yesterday we had 2,205,597 cases of coronavirus. That means an additional 23,305 Americans came down with coronavirus today.

The death toll now stands at 120,101, yesterday it stood at 119,741. That means an additional 360 Americans died today of coronavirus. WE now have double the number of deaths from coronavirus that the Trump administration originally projected.

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@Baldimo,

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An influential article that found hydroxychloroquine increases the risk of death in coronavirus patients has been retracted over data concerns.

I saw that story. There were concerns with the study's methodology because there wasn't a third-party review but the conclusions were recently upheld:

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June 15, 2020 Update: Based on ongoing analysis and emerging scientific data, FDA has revoked the emergency use authorization (EUA) to use hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine to treat COVID-19 in certain hospitalized patients when a clinical trial is unavailable or participation is not feasible. We made this determination based on recent results from a large, randomized clinical trial in hospitalized patients that found these medicines showed no benefit for decreasing the likelihood of death or speeding recovery. This outcome was consistent with other new data, including those showing the suggested dosing for these medicines are unlikely to kill or inhibit the virus that causes COVID-19. As a result, we determined that the legal criteria for the EUA are no longer met. Please refer to the Revocation of the EUA Letter and FAQs on the Revocation of the EUA for Hydroxychloroquine Sulfate and Chloroquine Phosphate for more information.

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Bullshit, there was never any reason for the rest of the country to take the same steps that NY did.

Um...that's what I said.

I wrote:

And no, it wasn't necessary for every city and locality in the country to go as far as NYC did but the specific conditions there made it imperative.

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We were talking about the shutdown of travel from China...

I don't care what you think we were talking about. I was talking about letting citizens back into the country from all over the world. Most of the cases in the NY metro region originated in Europe. The fact that the TSA withheld PPE from its staff helped to spread the disease as well. The government response was chaotic and disordered due to Trump's ineffective "leadership".

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Look around, it was a virus, did you really think it wasn't going to spread across the world?

Of course I knew it would spread, that's why it was labeled a "pandemic". But it didn't have to spread as quickly and as widely. Other countries managed the outbreak more successfully and protected their citizens and their economies to a much greater extent.

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Did you think the US is a magic place where virus's don't spread?

No, Donald Trump thought the USA was a magical place where, “It’s going to disappear. One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear."

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The truth will come out, no matter how many lies Trump tells to hide it. The truth is now coming out about who is causing the violence during the demonstrations it is a far right, second amendment extremist group called the boogaloo whose objective is to start a civil war. They have bomb making directions on their website as well as a list of police target. Boogaloo members use peaceful protests for cover. Members of “the boogaloo hang on Trump’s every word. And even in ambiguity they see support.” There have been over 20 arrests of boogaloo members for violent crimes since 2016 including murder of a police officer and a federal law enforcement officer there have been no arrest for serious crimes of Antifa members in the same time period. Police officials in Washington DC have been warned that Boogaloo members are planning an attack. This is Trump’s army of idiots who he hopes will keep him in office after he loses the next election.

Today we have 2,263,770 cases of coronavirus, yesterday we had 2,228,902 cases of coronavirus. That means an additional 34,868 Americans came down with coronavirus today.

The death toll now stands at 120,688, yesterday the death toll stood at 119,741. That means an additional 947 Americans died today.

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Trump’s effort to kill off republican voters in Oklahoma suffered from a lack of attendance, empty seats inside and no crowd outside. Fox polls show Trump is now 12% down and it is showing on the campaign trail. Not many masks on the crowd with the exception of the crowd around the speakers stand. Six of Trump’s team tested positive for coronavirus including two secret service agents. We will need to wait two weeks to see how many thousands of coronavirus cases can be traced to Trump’s rally.

Today we have 2,295,615 cases of coronavirus, yesterday we had 2,263,770 cases of coronavirus. That means another 31,835 Americans came down with coronavirus today while New Zealand has totally wiped out coronavirus but we have a total idiot in charge.

The death toll now stands at 121,441, yesterday the death toll stood at 120,688 dead Americans. That means another 753 Americans died today.

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@Zardoz,

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We will need to wait two weeks to see how many thousands of coronavirus cases can be traced to Trump’s rally.

Then we will have the results of how many cases the protests caused first, right? Let us hear those numbers.

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Trump’s campaign strategy of everybody is always picking on me seems to be wearing thin. When he goes to a state where he won by 36 points in the last election and only 6,100 show up to watch him verbally masturbate it shows we have a country that is drowning in coronavirus with people afraid to go out. Even third world countries showed Trump how to handle a pandemic.

Today we have 2,311,345 cases of coronavirus, yesterday we had 2,295, 615 cases of coronavirus. That means an additional 15,370 Americans came down with coronavirus today. We have past another milestone we now have over two million three hundred thousand cases of coronavirus and some states are talking about closing back down.

The death toll now stands at 121,609, yesterday we had 121,441 dead Americans. That means an additional 168 deaths due to coronavirus today. It will be a month or so before we start seeing the Trump voters who attended the Trump rally start to die.

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I am surprised that the Trump team didn’t try to lie their way out of the fiasco by saying that they drew the biggest crowd ever for a political rally. After all that is what they did with his inauguration despite the pictures. Trump drew a crowd of 25 fans for the outside venue. They tore the stage down before the event. Bozo the clown draws a bigger crowd than Trump. Trump had further plans for bigger and better Trump political rallies but more spectacular failures would make Trump look like the failure he is.

Today we have 2,355,680 cases of coronavirus, yesterday we had 2,311,345 cases of coronavirus. That means that another 44,335 Americans came down with coronavirus today. Trump is certainly able to claim the worst possible response to the coronavirus in the world. According to Trump the coronavirus would just disappear like the flu during the summer but instead it is getting worse in 26 states.

The death toll is now 122,132, yesterday the death toll was 121,609. That means an additional 523 Americans died today. That is enough dead Americans to fill another crashed airliner.

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Trump has decided to declare victory over the coronavirus despite the fact that coronavirus is spreading in 26 states. Trump plans to end the National Emergency Declarations. This would be like the president of Poland declaring victory after Nazi Germany invaded them, don’t worry about all those Germany tanks they are just tourists.

The Trump Coronavirus Express is in Arizona today held in a mega church. The Trump team had 8 of its operatives come down with coronavirus in Oklahoma imagine how many cases there were in the crowd. Trump is the king of coronavirus he can’t deny it.

Today we have 2,391,336 cases of coronavirus, yesterday we had 2,355,680 cases of coronavirus. That means another 35,656 Americans came down with coronavirus today.

The death toll now stands at 122,985, yesterday we had 122,132 Americans dead from coronavirus. That means an additional 853 Americans died of coronavirus today. Remember Trump says coronavirus is just a tourist that will disappear any day now.

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Trump new poll numbers are in, taken after Trump singlehandedly claimed to have defeated coronavirus. The trouble with his victory lap is that we now have a record number of daily coronavirus cases. Trump is use to lying his way past reality it won’t work this time. At this point 36% of people say they will vote for Trump while 50% say they will vote for Biden. Trump’s numbers will get closer to zero as the coronavirus rages.

Today we have 2, 425,361 cases of coronavirus, yesterday we had 2,391,336 cases of coronavirus. That means another 34,025 Americans came down with coronavirus today. We passed another milestone today we have now passed two million four hundred thousand cases of coronavirus.

The death toll now stands at 123,726, yesterday it stood at 122,985. That means an additional 741 Americans died today.

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@Zardoz,

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That means an additional 741 Americans died today.

Do you know who they were going to vote for? Do they know they can still vote Democratic?

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Coronavirus continues to run wild across the United States setting records each and every day. Trump continues to make it worse by not wearing a mask and setting a good example for the stupid. Instead Trump makes a political issue out of not following the health experts’ advice. A World Health Organization study shows that the use of masks reduces the spread of coronavirus by 85% and the Republicans are making an issue of not wearing masks. This may forever change the American electorate as coronavirus will be recalled as primarily a republican disease.

Today we have 2,465,127 cases of coronavirus, yesterday we had 2,425,361 cases of coronavirus. That means another 39,766 Americans came down with the coronavirus today. That is a record amount of coronavirus cases in a day even during the worst of the pandemic.

The death toll now stands at 126,218, yesterday the death toll stood at. 123,726 dead Americans. That means another 2,492 Americans died today.

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