The Communist Origin of the Modern Conservative Movement VI

Even though Zimmerman wasn’t charged he was the proximate cause of the confrontation and he was doing what he was told not to do by the police department.

Zimmerman had a gun and was going to play cop.

If you don’t confront them what are you going to do run?

It can’t have happened the way Zimmerman says it did. It is literally impossible.

Did you ever visit anyone? Were you shot for visiting them?

Zimmerman had no right to follow him.

You have absolutely no idea who attacked who, you have only the word of a known criminal.

There has been castle law in most all states that lets you defend your property. What it didn’t do was allow you to start a fight and then when you started to get your as whipped to take out your gun and murder the person you started a fight with.

Not all Mustangs are created equal, some Mustangs have 4cly and some have 8clys motors.

While some Mustangs have completely different power plants that is not the case with AR-15s they come down the same assembly line and are exactly like in all aspects except the three small parts.

Did you watch the video I posted of the semi-automatic AR-15 firing just as fast as the automatic version using a bump stock?

There were 4 ejected shell casing in the air at the same time. We know the Pulse Night Club was recorded firing at a 130 round per minute rate.

Do you think your children could escape a mass murderer firing at 130 round a minute rate? There is no reason to have weapons designed for the military on the streets.

NASCAR was started as a stock car racing organization you could drive your car to the race track.

We had a local drive his car to the Southern 500.

The AR-15 semi-automatic has all of the same capabilities as the automatic version you just need to take advantage of them.

If you watched the video of the full-automatic AR-15 and the semi-automatic AR-15 with the bump stock they fired at pretty much the same rate. It is just a matter of taking full advantage of the AR-15s design capabilities.

The AR-15 are deadly enough without be converted as can be seen at the Pulse Night Club massacre.

The fact that there are 10 million assault weapons on the streets already if even a small percentage is converted it would kill hundreds.

A violation of the second amendment would be taken to court and the courts decide whether someone’s second amendment rights had been violated.

The only purpose of the statement shall not be infringed serves is guarantee that the gun rights of the criminals and the mentally cannot be infringed.

None of the rights should be infringed.

There has to be a reason for that statement something was going on at that time. It in no way expands the statement “a right to keep and bear arms.”

There is not a conservative on the planet who believes in rights when they deny the right of a woman to control her bodily functions.

Control off your own bodily functions is the bases for any freedom. If you can’t support that then don’t cry about any freedom.

Abortion would be listed as a restriction not a right.

How about other bodily functions would you need to have a right to breath in the Constitution? The vice president Pence has supported a bill to block a woman from having an abortion even if it is going to kill her. Only one exception and that would be rape it is alright to kills those babies.

Limits on freedom? You are all for taking away the right of women to control their own body.

So, you would have no problem with traffic driving by your house at 120 mph everyday after all they need to get to work. Serial killers are people too we should let them continue to kill. If your neighbor decided to take your car that shouldn’t be a problem. If an arsonist wants to burn your house down you might not agree with him but you should support his freedom to do so. All laws are restrictions on someone’s freedom.

But a restriction on the speed you drive is a violation of your rights. You mean the states can take your rights.

Converting semiautomatic rifles to near full-auto done with ...

That is the way the stats are kept. When four or more people are killed or wounded it is a mass shooting and logged into the stats. That mass shooting took place after the bank had already been robbed.

The stand your ground law allows you to be in a fist fight go to your car and get your gun and go back and start shooting people.

If they were still after this gun nut, he would not have made it back to the car and he would have been able to unlock the glove box and get his gun. What this allows is anyone that was hit to go get his gun and start executing people because he was punched. That is an actual incident at trial the jury was hung.

You aren’t that naive, you know why the assault weapon ban was not renewed the gun manufacturers were stuffing the crooked Republican politician’s pockets full of their blood money.

You have absolutely no right to weapons designed for mass murder. There was no outcry from the public about the assault weapon ban.

There was no outcry from the public about the assault weapon ban.

It does not protect the students, more gun nuts with guns only ends with more deaths and injuries in and out of schools.

That is not true either the gun manufacturers are pushing for college students to carry guns.

The Republicans almost passed that law last year it was only derailed at the last minute.

The gun manufactures would push for a law to make it legal for elementary students to carry guns if they thought they could make a buck.

Arming Teachers Introduces New Risks Into Schools ...


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If it is a contest between bad guys with guns vs good guys with guns the bad guys are winning. After all, when have you heard of good guy with gun shooting 50 bad guys with a gun?

Would heroes be handcuffed and hauled to the police department?

“The FBI examined 160 shootings between 2000 and 2013 and found most of the violence ended when the assailant stopped shooting, committed suicide or fled.”

Unarmed citizens successfully restrained shooters in 21 of those incidents, according to the FBI.” Only 5 incidents were stopped by armed civilians and most of them were armed security guards.
Source: the above reference

Don’t ever quit your day job to be psychologist.

If that was the case then all these gun nuts could return the assault weapons because they have been defrauded by the gun manufacturers who sold them to win firefights.

The human body when trained can exceed all expectations.

The AR-15 is capable it is just a matter of training your trigger finger.

We know the Pulse Night Clube mass murderer fired his at a 130 rounds per minute rate. Even that makes escape almost impossible.

One of the references posted in yesterday post listed the 900-round figure. You only had to watch the videos of the AR-15s being fired with four casings in the air at the same time to know how fast it is being fired.

Suicides are the killing of a human being. Murder is the killing of a human being.

Suicides are a subset of murders they maybe a special case but they will forever be the killing of a human being.

That is why the word especially was used in your definition. There is no other possible case but suicide.

The word makes people uncomfortable but it is a human being killing a human being. /quote]
It is a human killing themselves, nothing more nothing less. Unless it's a murder-suicide. Why don't they call them murders-murders? Because suicide and murder are 2 different things.

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The same with mass murders and mass shootings not all mass shootings are mass murders but all mass murders are mass shootings. There can be two different categories that fall under a major category.

That is some special and concerning mental gymnastics you have gone through to prove nothing.

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I posted a link that shows you how to quickly make any AR-15 fire automatically with a paperclip and a few other parts.

The only thing you showed was your inability to be honest. You posted a video of people firing either modified AR's, which is illegal to modify and you showed a video with a bump-stock, of which is also illegal to purchase and use. All of this because you can't find the proof that AR's can fire 900 rpm. You've been at this for months, I would have thought it would be easier to just publish the manufactures stats on the guns. You won't do that because the manufactures know their semi-auto rifles don't shoot that fast. You have lost but you won't stop with the lies and propaganda.

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You act like modify an assault weapon that was already designed to fire automatically in the first place is a mountain to high to scale.

Well it must be because there have been zero mass shootings with a modified AR and no mass shootings with a fully auto rifle.

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It is not, evidently it is far easier than you imagine.

You are the only one who imagines such things, it's part of your gun fever dreams, your own little projection on the world.

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The danger of having 10 million assault weapons that can be easily modified to automatic is terrible.

Except you are living in fear for no reason, this modified shooting fest has never happened. I'm sure if people like you keep talking about how easy it is, someone will actually do it. Then you only have yourself to blame for wishing such things to happen. You want to world to live like it's a Tom Cruise movie, thought crimes.

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All bank robberies may not be mass shootings but some mass shootings may also be bank robberies.

No, not one single bank robbery has been considered a mass shooting except by you. You are the only one who thinks this and have gone to great lengths to make it seem like one. Notice none of the anti-gun groups share your claims about bank robberies?

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Well now that you know how easily the assault weapons can be converted you will realize how many are out there.

No, I know it's not easy to modify a gun for full auto. It's only the gun uneducated who make such claims.

You are going down this road because you failed to prove semi-auto's can fire 900 rpm, so now you have to make things up to prove your point. Good luck with that, it only makes you look slow and desperate.

If magazines were limited to one round mass murderers would have to kill people one at a time and give the police a fair chance to catch them.

The second amendment does not say no restrictions you are wishful reading again. It says you have a right to keep and bare arms and that right is met in full as long as you have an arm to bear.

Semi-automatics are easily converted as the original design was intended to be automatic.

That is wishful thinking on your part the legal definition designates semi-automatic assault weapons as assault weapons.

You just made that requirement up out of thin air.

You will always find exceptions for every rule and it is the same with school shootings. It may have been a mass shooting with a pistol but it was not a massacre that requires an assault weapon.

12276.1 (a) Notwithstanding Section 12276, "assault weapon" shall also mean any of the following:
1. A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
A. A pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon.
B. A thumbhole stock.
C. A folding or telescoping stock.
D. A grenade launcher or flare launcher.
E. A flash suppressor.
F. A forward pistol grip.

2. A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

3. A semiautomatic, centerfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches.

4. A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and any one of the following:
A. A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer.
B. A second handgrip.
C. A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel that allows the bearer to fire the weapon without burning his or her hand, except a slide that encloses the barrel.
D. The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.

5. A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.

6. A semiautomatic shotgun that has both of the following:
A. A folding or telescoping stock.
B. pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon, thumbhole stock, or vertical handgrip.

7. A semiautomatic shotgun that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine.

8. Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

A. "Assault weapon" does not include any antique firearm.
B. The following definitions shall apply under this section:
1. "Magazine" shall mean any ammunition feeding device.
2. "Capacity to accept more than 10 rounds" shall mean capable of accommodating more than 10 rounds, but shall not be construed to include a feeding device that has been permanently altered so that it cannot accommodate more than 10 rounds.
3. "Antique firearm" means any firearm manufactured prior to January 1, 1899.
This section shall become operative January 1, 2000.

Assault weapon is a term used in the United States to define some types of firearms. The definition varies among regulating jurisdictions but usually includes semi-automatic rifles with a detachable magazine, a pistol grip and sometimes other features such as a vertical forward grip, flash suppressor or barrel shroud.

The only people here who are making up definitions are the progressives.

If magazines were limited to one round mass murderers would have to kill people one at a time and give the police a fair chance to catch them. Thirty round magazines are considered high capacity and mass murderers often show up with several extra clips.

By now you should have read several sources that not only confirm that fact but show you assault weapons firing at that rate. Seeing is believing.

Sorry but it is a fact. The Pulse Night Club shooting was recorder and the rate of fire was determined from the recording.

Assault weapons are built to fire at a 900 round per minute rate the only limit is the trigger finger not the assault weapon.

We have no idea how many rounds a practiced shooter could fire from an assault weapon.

A mass murderer does not have to fire 900 rounds a minute, only firing at a 130 rounds a minute is good for a 50-victim massacre. Once you are firing at over a 100-rounds a minute rate that good enough for most massacres.

The second amendment does not say no restrictions you are wishful reading again.

It says you have a right to keep and bare arms and that right is met in full as long as you have an arm to bear.

They have developed a machine gun that can fire 6,000 rounds a minute mounted in helicopters and armored vehicles.

Next you would insist that you need one to protect yourself from the upcoming Zombie apocalypse. You could mount one in the back of your pickup.

Semi-automatics are easily converted as the original design was intended to be automatic.

They are just dummied down versions of the automatic. That is wishful thinking on your part the legal definition designates semi-automatic assault weapons as assault weapons. You just made that requirement up out of thin air. Even the gun manufacturers sold them as assault weapons and you know that.

You will always find exceptions for every rule and it is the same with school shootings. It may have been a mass shooting with a pistol but it was not a massacre that requires an assault weapon.

When I was in the military no one referred to the firearms we used as "assault weapons".

I don't know what your beef is. I'm just trying to point out that there's no one universally agreed upon definition of the term because it's used to describe different types of weapons, often by people who don't know that much about firearms.

It's a descriptive term that was applied to weapons which were already in use.

So instead of constantly repeating the same arguments here about whether or not a gun meets your definition of "assault weapon" just accept that people may be using the term differently, determine what they mean, and deal with the point they are trying to make.

The terms must be accurate because they are using their uneducated terms to ban guns that shouldn't banned.

Just avoid using the descriptive term. Then you won't be muddying the water. You can refer to any specific firearm by its proper identifying name instead of continuing to use a misleading or misunderstood name.

You could stop muddying the waters by also correcting people, but you won't because you agree with their aims.

The definition varies among regulating jurisdictions...

You could stop trying to tell me what I think and whose aims I agree with.

There is no one correct set of terms and definitions. Is that too complicated for you to understand?

If I wasn't correct, you would be correcting me.

All of the DNC candidates have been pretty clear on what they want to do, it's shameful you are a party to it.