You will be able to have an ordinary hunting rifle but not an assault weapons like the AR-15 that can chamber at a 900 round a minute rate. You and I both know that an AR-15 is far from an ordinary hunting rifle.
America was created to get us out from under those outdated laws Europe.
There is no such thing as natural rights you have only the rights granted under the Constitution. You want to live under to completely different rule books and then pick and choose which of those laws you deem valid.
Inalienable right refers to rights that cannot be surrendered, sold or transferred to someone else, especially a natural right such as the right to own property. However, these rights can be transferred with the consent of the person possessing those rights. Inalienable is defined as incapable of being surrendered or transferred; at least without one's consent.
The government has not only a compelling interest but a responsibility to protect the population from dangerous and deadly weapons of war.
Yes, killing is possible by other means but not killing 59 people in 10 minutes.
You have a right to keep and bear an arm but not any gun whatsoever.
There is absolutely nothing about a compelling government interest in the second amendment, that comes from an activist judge.
The second amendment cannot protect a preexisting right. The founding fathers can use the preexisting right as an inspiration to create the second amendment but the Declaration of the Independence and the Constitution was to establish a distance from the old country.
No in this case my wording is dangerous and deadly because that is what they actually are.
The AR-15 is a dangerous and deadly weapon and it can be easily converted to far more dangerous weapon.
Keep, goes without saying if you can bear an arm you have it in your possession.
The only militias we have are outlaw right-wing nut militias. The United States spends ten times as much as any other country on earth on defense. The statement about militia does not modify or magnify the statement of the right to bear arms. It is simply used as justification for why the population should be allowed any gun.
I don’t think anyone has a problem with the keep as long as it is not assault weapons that they are keeping.
Keep telling yourself that and maybe you will believe and assault weapon is not really an assault weapon but it is hard to defeat what your eyes see.
Was the North Hollywood mass shooting not done with assault weapons?
They were purchased according to you as just ordinary hunting rifles but they fired exactly like assault weapons with over 2,000 fired in a matter of minutes.
I think you will find there are many right-wing groups who would violently try to take over and when Trump is impeached or voted out of office, they will come out of every crack to try and stop it.
Trump will call for it and you may see the first effort to overthrow the government since the civil war and they will all be armed with assault weapons.
That is reason you are saying they should have assault weapons in the first place. If they have assault weapons that is the road we are going down where everyone with assault weapons believe they should be in charge.
Zimmerman was out of place the teenager was where he belonged.
Zimmerman bought a gun to a fist fight because that gun made him feel like a bully.
This is going to happen wherever you have a stand your ground law and won’t take long before the bullies figure out, they can kill anyone they want by simply picking a fight.
How do you think the physical confrontation started?
Travon was going to visit his relatives and Zimmerman was playing police officer.
People had a right to defend themselves before the stand your ground laws, you just didn’t have a right to murder people.
Before you had a duty to walk away from a confrontation but the stand your ground gives you the right to escalate the confrontation and kill whoever.
You did read the 2018 election results it was a lead story about one of the biggest political massacres in history with even
presidential candidates are advocating assault weapon bans now.
In the House alone the Republicans lost 41 seats.
Everyone, of them was taking the NRA blood money and they were on the gun manufacturers payroll.
Of course, the Republican senate is blocking any gun control measure they all have A grade rating from the NRA and are taking all the blood money they can get their hands on. The majority gives one man the power to block any bill from being voted on.
I don’t know how long you can continue to lie to yourself.
Assault weapons are made far different than ordinary “hunting rifles.”
To keep weapons that were designed to massacre huge number of people on the streets will do far more damage to your case in the long runs and will make the regulations far more severe than they would ordinarily would be.
You are lying to yourself when you insist a semi-automatic assault weapon is not an assault weapon.
You are living a fantasy if you believe two identical assault weapons are completely different when the only difference is three small parts.
I agree you have a right to keep and bear arms but you do not have “a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever.”
Do you really thing we are bound by the Magna Carta?
The trouble with your ancient law theory is that you are either bound by all the old laws or your bound by none.
You can’t just pick the ones you like. The Founding Fathers were creating a brand-new country with brand new laws.
A semi-automatic and a full-automatic in single shot mode preform identically and look identical but yet you claim one is an ordinary hunting rifle and the other an assault weapon. Do you see something wrong with that picture?
No matter how many times you post that definition it will never be true.
You never list a source for that definition why is that?
The law says they were assault weapons and that is what counts.
If you chained the doors in a bar till no one could escape you could kill everyone with a pistol but as long as there is an escape route many will get away but if you can fire a 130 rounds a minute, they will never make the door.
You keep trying to convince yourself that no assault weapons were ever used in a massacre but for the rest of us we know what the actual subject of the assault weapon ban was semi-automatic assault weapons.
So, after the three tiny pieces have been changed and the two assault weapons fire automatically it isn’t an assault weapon because the three tiny parts were added later.
They both then have a selective fire switch but even with them being identical they are not the same in your convoluted logic.
So, your telling me the assault weapons are far more deadly than the Thompsons and the Thompsons had to be effectively banned because they were so dangerous and deadly. That caps the argument for banning assault weapons.
You still have not listed the source of that definition.
So, your telling me the assault weapons are far more deadly than the Thompsons and the Thompsons had to be effectively banned because they were so dangerous and deadly.
More guns more death at a high school in California today.
We have right to work laws, which is the right to work for less.
Rights are basically contracts between the government and citizens and like all contracts they are governed by the words in those contracts the words establish the lines. You want to color outside of those lines and claim all of your wildest dreams are inside those lines.
There is no doubt that government can control guns because some guns are already effectively banned so it comes down to where the government can draw the line.
All of this stems from one judge’s interpretation and you can almost bet that judge was autistic, probably the aspergers variation.
When you think that up is down and down is up there is something wrong. When you ignore all the writing and base your ruling on what is not there, there is problem. What you are doing is saying the shadow is real and the person is not.
The congressman is not the only one, Trump want to keep any of the press from criticizing him in any way and has threatened NBC and other networks with taking their license on several occasions.
Nations are sovereign and decide what rights their citizens will have.
They are in no way bound by laws of other countries that why different countries exist. Try claiming you have rights in dictatorship.
Shall not be infringed does not expand the “right to keep and bear arms” in any way shape or form.
You do not get any more than “a right to keep and bear arms.
Shall not be infringed is there simply to ensure the right is granted.
But then you need to talk to anyone with a felony whose right has been completely infringed.
Automatic assault weapons are effectively banned.
The point is massacres are not being done with full-automatic weapons for one reason and only one reason, you can’t go to the corner gun store and buy them.
The price is out of the reach of most mass murderers.
If the effective ban works for automatic assault weapons a similar effective ban will work for semi-automatic assault weapons. This will all but eliminate high body count mass murders.
This will all but eliminate high body count mass murders.
Abortion is not spoken to in the constitution but there is a right to privacy of your own body.
Fetuses have no rights under the constitution.
What the activist right-wing judges have tried to do is give Constitutional rights to two cells in a woman’s body.
The Supreme court has already ruled on the limit on gun rights and that decision is fully binding on the present court.
The current court cannot overturn previous decision without a new case and a new legal theory otherwise every time the court majority changed they would overrule all of the previous court rulings.
The Heller case had to do with a gun permit and the plaintiff did get to have the permit but they also ruled that people were not entitled to any weapon whatsoever for whatever purpose whatsoever. That is extremely clear and the court did not stutter.
When the decision says that you do not have the right to “any weapon whatsoever.”
That is very clear and all that we are asking for to control of assault weapons.
There are more assault weapons on the streets of America than the US military has. There 10 million assault weapons in America.
The Oklahoma City bombing was done by a right-wing NRA member and holds record for death toll in a single mass murder, that killed a 168 people an injured more than 680.
This was a right-wing statement against the government.
That is part of the right’s justification for having guns so they can use them to overthrow the government if they don’t like what it is doing. The violence is ingrained in the right’s political philosophy.
Violence in general is one thing, but politically motivated violence is a completely different animal. The El Paso massacre was inspired by Trump’s racial hate statements just as many other incidents.
When you put guns in school you are putting guns in the hands of children.
The guns will be in desk drawers or left on shelves and sooner or later the children will have the guns.
We already know that some of the people with guns in school have blown holes in the ceiling while show their guns off.
The odds of being shot by gun carrying teacher are better than be killed by a mass murderer.
Have you seen the recent tapes of teachers beating up students?
If they had a gun, they would kill them.
In just one 48-hour period there were three incidents where the guns were accidently misfired some into class rooms. The equation is simple more guns equal more death.
Gun manufactures have only one reason to exist and that is to sell more guns and death. Just as car manufactures exist for one reason to sell more cars.
Really, three students were injured when a trained gun professional was demonstrating “gun safety.”
There have already been 30 incidents with guns since the NRA solution was implemented in some schools. It seems a good- guys with guns are almost as dangerous as mass murderers. More guns is an idiots solution.
The mass shooting took place after the North Hollywood bank robbery was over. The bank was already robbed. Even if it took place in the bank it would still be both a bank robbery and a mass shooting. Just as if you went to classify a horse, it is both a horse and a mammal.
Here I am doing your research for you again “3% of Americans own 50% of the guns, 78% of Americans don’t own any guns: Harvard Study” use that for your search. All you needed to do was search for “78% of Americans don’t own a gun.”
That is exactly how it works all you need do is call up a list of mass shootings and you will find they take place during all sorts of different crimes but they are all mass shootings.
The shinning examples of Republican Party, the new Republican Party now, are the Neo-Nazis, the KKK, the guy that threw acid in the face of an American citizen who he thought might be an illegal alien, and the El Paso mass murder.
The kid was visiting relatives who lived there.
Do you think visiting relatives should be punishable by death because some thug on the right thinks he should control everybody?
Do you really believe every nut with a gun should have police powers?
There are only two people who actually know what happened and one of them is dead.
Do you think the teenager would jump someone much bigger than him?
At the time of his arrest on April 11, 2012, Zimmerman's height was reportedly 5 feet 7 inches (1.70 m) and his weight 185 lb (84 kg), according to the Seminole County Sheriff's Office Inmate Booking record.
According to his autopsy, Martin was 5 feet 11 inches (1.80 m) tall and weighed 158 pounds (72 kg) at the time of his death.
Bullies start fights all the time and they often get their ass beat.
No doubt Zimmerman was losing the fight he instigated and was down on his back when the shot was fired.
Zimmerman has already been in trouble with the law at least twice after the incident and no doubt he will continue to kill until they put that gun nut away.
The stand your ground law had everything to do with it and 7 years is recent in the scheme of time.
When the law was passed that type of murders were predicted.
With the stand your ground law every fist fight in America will end with someone brains being blow out.
Fights are a fact of life they will always happen. But unless a gun is involved both people walk away. Usually people that pick fights lose and they will be the gun night type.
Not the same as asking have you stopped beating your wife, fights happen.
If I had been able to fight, he could have shot me because I was beating the hell out of him under the stand your ground law.
The statistic for those sixty politicians has nothing to do with the 2010 election and involves more targeted politicians than just the House of Representatives.
For instance, in the State of Virginia the democrats took control of all three division for the first time in 25 years and gun control was a major issue. The Democrats gained the most seats since Watergate the most in a generation and you can bet none were on the NRA payroll.
37 was the largest gain for the democrats in a generation, since Watergate.
Most of the Trump vote came from those without a college education and who are gullible enough to believe the Trump lies like his tax cut for the middle class that he ran on that would eliminate income tax on anyone making less than $50,000.
Trump erased that from his website after he got elected and replaced with a huge tax cut for billionaires like him.
Studies of the vote showed it was education not income that determined the Trump voter.
. I have showed you repeatedly the page where it shows that the Republicans paid for that study.
You have read it a hundred times and still insist it is not there. None are so blind as those who refuse to see.
The research was done during the Republican primary and paid for by a Republican deep pocket. It was later sold to the democrats during the general election. The primary comes first and real Republicans despise Trump far worse than the democrats. “Did you not see that Fusion GPS was hired by “The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative political website.” Fusion GPS than sold the research they did for the Republicans to the Democrats.
Do you know where Trump got the Ukraine conspiracy theory from?
It seems it was a little birdy named Putin whispered in his ear. Putin wants us out of the Ukraine so he can continue his invasion and so far, Trump has done everything that Putin wants.
All 17 US intelligence agencies have discredited the Ukraine conspiracy theory.
But Trump believes everything Putin tells him and does not believe a word the US intelligence agencies say.
Did you know that Trump quietly ended the sanctions on Russia for interfering in the 2016 election? And there were not enough Republicans to veto his actions.
It doesn’t matter whether Biden has any experience in the oil industry, he is not an employee, he is on the board of directors.
The board of directors of any corporation is made up of a diverse crosssection of people.
If they wanted to do business in the United States, they would want somebody on the board from America. Biden was not going into the oil fields and run a drilling rig.
Biden was not going into the oil fields and run a drilling rig.
Board of directors are highly paid in America and they may only attend one or two meetings a year. You might want to look at what the directors are paid here and you will find that is small sum by comparison.
Moreover, broadly speaking, why are “celebrities” placed on boards of companies -- often in industries where they would appear to have no tangible connection to?
Indeed, many celebrities, including politicians, actors, musicians and even athletes have been named to corporate boards over the decades.
However, it is unclear what long-term value, if any, they provide to the companies’ underlying stock prices.
Generally speaking, celebrity directors endow companies with sudden prominence, name recognition, some glamour, and, in many cases, a short-term spike in the stock price.
Anna N. Danielova, assistant professor of finance at DeGroote School of Business in Hamilton, Canada, explained to International Business Times that corporations sometimes put celebrities on their boards because it provides an opportunity for the company to increase its visibility and exposure through the fame, reputation, and status associated with a celebrity director on board.
“In addition, a celebrity could bring in important networking connections, or shift investors’ perceptions of a firm into a more positive direction,” she said. “This could lead to value-creation. And in fact, it [often] does.”
Hunter Biden isn't a celebrity, he is the son of the VP who got a job for a foreign oil company because his dad was the VP.
What ever happened to the investigation that was taking place in Ukraine, it seems like it died after Joe Biden had the investigator fired, why is that?
In January 2018, Biden disclosed that during a trip to Kyiv he privately warned Ukraine’s then-president, Petro Poroshenko, and then-prime minister, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, that the U.S. would withhold $1 billion in loan guarantees if Ukraine failed to deal with corruption and remove Shokin as its prosecutor general. (Biden did not say when he made the threat, but he addressed the Ukrainian Parliament in Kyiv on Dec. 9, 2015, and dangled the prospect of future U.S. aid if the country rid itself of the “cancer of corruption.” )
“I looked at them and said: I’m leaving in six hours. If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money,” Biden recalled in remarks at an event hosted by the Council on Foreign Relations. “Well, son of a bitch. He got fired.”
But the U.S. was not alone in pressuring Ukraine to fire Shokin.
In February 2016, International Monetary Fund Managing Director Christine Lagarde threatened to withhold $40 billion unless Ukraine undertook “a substantial new effort” to fight corruption after the country’s economic minister and his team resigned to protest government corruption. That same month, a “reform-minded deputy prosecutor resigned, complaining that his efforts to address government corruption had been consistently stymied by his own prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin,” according to a Jan. 3, 2017, Congressional Research Services report.
Shokin served as prosecutor general under Viktor Yanukovych, the former president of Ukraine who fled to Russia after he was removed from power in 2014 and was later found guilty of treason. Shokin remained in power after Yanukovych’s ouster, but he failed “to indict any major figures from the Yanukovych administration for corruption,” according to testimony John E. Herbst, a former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine under President George W. Bush, gave in March 2016 to a subcommittee of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
“By late fall of 2015, the EU and the United States joined the chorus of those seeking Mr. Shokin’s removal as the start of an overall reform of the Procurator General’s Office,” Herbst testified. “U.S. Vice President Joe Biden spoke publicly about this before and during his December visit to Kyiv; but Mr. Shokin remained in place.”
In early 2016, Deputy General Prosecutor Vitaliy Kasko resigned in protest of corruption within Shokin’s office. In a televised statement, Kasko said: “Today, the General Prosecutor’s office is a brake on the reform of criminal justice, a hotbed of corruption, an instrument of political pressure, one of the key obstacles to the arrival of foreign investment in Ukraine.”
In reporting on Kasko’s resignation, Reuters noted that Ukraine’s “failure to tackle endemic corruption” threatened the IMF’s $40 billion aid program for Ukraine. At the time, the IMF put a hold on $1.7 billion in aid that had been due to be released to Ukraine four months earlier.
When 78% of Americans don’t own a gun, it seems many republicans also see guns as evil.
Assault weapons are designed to make evil deeds like massacres possible. 93% of Americans want something done about guns.
First you have to know the length of time that the 41 school shootings took place in, which in this case was 41 over 10 years. I was unable to find that particular FBI study but the variation may be that they decided to just study 41 active shooter incidents. Another FBI study shows that 160 school shootings took place between the year 2,000 and 2013. There were 1,043 casualties of which 486 were killed and 557 wounded. That is far worse than the other study and what is worse the incidents are getting more frequent.
Do you believe that if you had an assault weapon you could have stopped the planes from flying into the world trade center? That is the incident you sighted to justify needing an assault weapon.
That CDC study is just a guestimate based on nothing but thin air. There is absolutely no foundation for that back up that report, like police reports.
Two armed men don’t show up at your house and start beating your husband without a reason. If they were there to rob him, they would have taken what they wanted and left. That means he was involved in some type of criminal activity. Maybe a drug deal gone bad or he did not pay or his meth. I noticed you did not post a source for that article. Is it possible you know more than you want to post?
Post your source for that article. You seem to have left out the second guy in your first post. What other details did you leave out?
If you are beating someone with a gun you can’t shoot at the same time. Is that detail in the article?
If they were both beating her husband, she could have shot both with a pistol before they knew what was happening.
This idiot was firing through the walls and could have killed any other people in the office including children.
That particular ruling is upside down and backwards and could only be made by someone in the autism spectrum.
If the founding fathers had intended to put restriction on the government that is what they would have done. The Bill of Rights was intended to grant rights not take away the government’s power to govern.
If I write a contract to build you a house that does not put a restriction on me keeping me from doing anything else. The Bill of Rights is just another contract. The supreme court has ruled that rights are not absolute and that is your idea of freedom.
Did you ever have to fill out a 25-page census form that asks for fine details of your life? Your right to privacy is limited, all other rights have limits also.
Trump encouraged the lock her up chants in all of his political rallies. He could have stopped them but he encouraged them everywhere he went.
Trump cheated his way into the Whitehouse by publicly calling for the Russians to help him win the election and Russians immediately set out to break in to the democratic party’s server.
Try claiming that your neighbor’s wife is prostitute on the internet if you think you have freedom of speech. They can sue the daylights out of you. In fact, the King of lies, Trump, was so offended when a story was published that his wife had been a prostitute he immediately sued and won over a million. If you had unlimited free speech you could not sue for slander.
The only major social media site that has decided to continue posting the republican lies is Facebook.
I doubt that Romney pays any taxes that aren’t returned to him the next year. He takes advantage of the carried interest loophole letting him pay a far smaller percentage than the middle class.
You really think that neighbors don’t attack each other?
If they have a gun, they usually kill their neighbor?
You can bet all the witnesses are now getting death threats and telling them just where their children go school.
Trump was raised with mobsters who were his dad’s biggest supporters. Trump dad would take him to the bars where the mobsters hung out when he was child so he would learn the way of the mob.
Restaurants are public places and you know people have a right of free speech. When they encounter someone that lies for a living, they have a duty to speak up.
You can boo the players at any ball game.
I doubt there are any congressmen who have not received death threats it is an extremely common practice. Even celebrities who speak out often get death threats.
One thing in the future that the GOP and the republicans that want to get elected will have to face will be gun control. When 93% of the populations wants something done with guns republicans who support the NRA will find it harder to get elected.
There is no such right as a right to overthrow the government.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
In past surveys of gun nuts listed the major reason they had a gun was for hunting now you say the reason is to overthrow the government.
You can never assume you know their intention because anyone can make up what they think their intention was because it is just your imagination running away with you and everyone’s will think the intention that benefits them was the intention of the founding fathers.
That is why when you get into court and say well that was our intention the judge will say if it was intention you need to write it down. The writing prevails.
You are viewing tyranny now and this first time in American history where many people believe that the only way to remove Trump from office will be at the point of gun.
If Trump lasts to the election and loses, he will claim the election was illegitimate and refuse to leave. But the military will have to be called to remove him.
Your definition is not the actual definition and when they are converted, they do have the selective fire switch they are sold on the internet.
The problem is that you believe that you have the one and only absolute right and you don’t. The supreme court has made that extremely clear. You can’t give up something you never had in the first place.
You having a gun does not threaten me?
Really, you are going down the road with your wife but you are not going fast enough to suit the guy behind you. When he gets the chance to get around you, he pulls up beside you and shoots and kills your wife. He was in a hurry and had to take the time to kill your wife. (actually happened).
You get in argument with your neighbor over the property line. He older and showing signs of being senile. He takes his gun out and blows you away. Tell me again that it is not dangerous for you to own a gun.
The story was on NBC. I can’t find it on the internet either but the other study shows 4 times that amount of school shootings in a 13-year time period.
Anyway, you look at it if the only qualification for a mass shooting is four or more people shot, and it is, than any time that happens it is a mass shooting.
You can’t say murder is killing a human being and then when a human being is killed say it is not murder.
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mur·der | \ ˈmər-dər \
Definition of murder (Entry 1 of 2)
1: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought
was convicted of murder
2a: something very difficult or dangerous
the traffic was murder
carrying the luggage was murder on my back
b: something outrageous or blameworthy
getting away with murder
3: a flock of crows
There's a reason the proper term for a flock of them is a murder of crows, and it's not because we like having them around.
— Jeffrey Kluger
As the recent stories have shown if you put guns in schools you are arming the kids. The students simply have to pick up the gun the nuts leave laying around and the highly trained gun experts have already done that. The highly trained gun experts have already fired guns through class room walls and ceilings.
I have mentioned the top ten massacres several times. I frequently return to that page for reference.
If you read past posts you will find several references to the top ten massacres.
The killing of a human being is murder. If you kill yourself you have killed a human being.
If a mass shooting is the killing or wounding of four or more people there are no exclusions in the definition of mass shootings, none.
If a definition specifically lists exclusions, then they would be excluded. If there are no exclusions listed you can’t claim exclusions that are not there.
