The Communist Origin of the Modern Conservative Movement VI

But I asked you whether or not I have the right to stop you.

However, both the concept of "natural rights" and government are artificial constructs devised by human beings.

There is no such thing as "natural law", we simply apply this term to our social customs because to admit that the whole enterprise is phony would undermine the forces of social control and cultural legitimacy.

Obviously, in a situation where you're physically threatened the motivations for rapid response and accompanying neural pathways evolved long before anyone ever made up the idea of "rights". It's not a matter of having them or not having them; "rights" don't even come into play.

Duh...overturned by rightist courts stocked by conservative presidents.

Self defense isn't a "right" — it's an instinct shared with many other animals. "Flight or fight" are natural reactions which help to insure the survival of individuals and species as a whole. There are no "natural rights"; the very idea is itself is the product of human beings, not nature.

No need to insult the OP, comrade.

These "rights" you believe in aren't "naturally occurring" — they're an artifice of human society. They weren't floating around in the ether, waiting for the hominid line to evolve into Homo sapiens. That's just another variety of religious thinking.

You're the one whose projecting, comrade.

Apparently you're not mature enough to realize that there are different meanings of the word"parasite".

The scientific term is neutral.

A living organism whose existence is dependent on a host body is a "parasite". A fetus can be likened to a parasite because its survival is dependent on the environment of the mother's womb and nutrients provided by the mother through the umbilical cord.

It has nothing to do with "hating babies". Try to look at things more objectively and less emotionally.

No, to the extent that they exist at all they are simply an outgrowth of social evolution which people agree to observe.

"Every year, worldwide, about 42 million women with unintended pregnancies choose abortion, and nearly half of these procedures, 20 million, are unsafe. Some 68,000 women die of unsafe abortion annually, making it one of the leading causes of maternal mortality (13%). Of the women who survive unsafe abortion, 5 million will suffer long-term health complications. Unsafe abortion is thus a pressing issue." source

Nowhere did he claim that. It was one non-exclusive example. Sheesh.

Somebody has to pay it and it isn’t going to be that 18-year prostitute.

And you, comrade, are pathetic to read.

That's about the stupidest post you ever made. Do you really think that those gangbangers are registered Democrats working as agents of the "progressive cause" or "Never Trumpers"?

It's not "funny" it's just pathetic. You and Trump just happen to believe the same discredited conspiracy theory.

So what? Some rinky-dink company wants to get some cred in the gas industry so they hire an American with a famous name and ties to the White House. He doesn't have to do anything. His mere presence helps land the firm lucrative contracts which would more than cover his salary. $50.000 is chump change. Not that I'm surprised, but you're pathetically ignorant of how the real world of gangster capitalism works.

At this point you are like most republicans, “hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.”

On the evening news they reported about an FBI study of 41 school shootings in the last ten years but you don’t see that as a problem that is crying out for a solution.

Not only that you want to throw road blocks to stop the obvious solution. “If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem.”

Guns take ten times as many lives as they save.

If the guy was beating her husband all she needed was a base ball bat and he would not been beating anyone.

A hand gun would have stopped the intruder because he was distracted beating her husband.

He could not beat her husband and hold a gun.

What she didn’t need was a gun capable of slaughtering 50 people. Usually people armed like that sell drugs for a living.

Usually people armed like that sell drugs for a living.

You are still basing your black is white and white is black argument on one lame court decision.

If the founding fathers had intended the bill of rights to be a bill of restrictions on the government, they would have named it the bill of restrictions.

A right to privacy is something granted to a citizen.

Would the government be prevented from doing the census?

We all know who was responsible for the lock up chants to start with.

Trump used them to cheat his way into the Whitehouse.

Free speech has limits and they are trying to stop lying to win an election.

The Republicans posted that the election was on Nov 5 when in fact it was on the Nov 4 to suppress voter turnout in certain communities.

Since social media can be used to selectively bombard specific voters with false information many social media sites are just refusing all political adds.

Other right-wing nut jobs, like Trumps good buddy, posting that no children were killed at Sandy Hook that it was done with actors got himself banned.

This is Putin method to create an alternate universe of lies so no one will know what the truth is. Trying to intimidate political candidates by death threats is a popular political game. I came to work one morning and the mayor’s car was in the grease bay with the bomb squad going over it with a fine- tooth comb. Threats are a crime and the law should be enforced. If someone threatens a congressman or his family that is not free speech.

This is Putin method to create an alternate universe of lies so no one will know what the truth is.

Trying to intimidate political candidates by death threats is a popular political game.

Threats are a crime and the law should be enforced. If someone threatens a congressman or his family that is not free speech.

At this point it is hard to get two people to agree on anything let alone millions.

So, you believe the government should be violently overthrown by right wing nuts.

Iraq was bombed back to stone age and Iraq had far more than a 100- times the casualties we suffered.

What we are left from the founding father is the actual writing it is a nice history lesson to find out what their intensions were but the actual writing prevails.

We already have another way to remove a tyrannical government it is called voting them out.

Then the converted semi-automatics used in the North Hollywood shootout were assault weapons but the day before they were converted, they were just a regular semi-automatic rifle.

The full-automatic assault weapon does not require the trigger to be pulled each time, one pull of trigger will fire the entire magazine. It loads automatically and it fires automatically. The semi-automatic version loads automatically also.

The death toll is terrible but the children that were wounded and survive will have Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and even those who come to school everyday wondering whether this will be the day a mass murder shows up with an assault weapon will be scared for life.

We all realize that gun nuts are inviting trouble into their lives. “you live with a gun you die by the gun but the rest of us do not want to invite the additional risk into our lives.

The gun nuts are always going to shoot each other as long as there are guns but the massacres are another matter. They require assault weapons.

There have been 41 school shooting in the last ten years according to the FBI. How many other massacres have taken place at all other locations?

Since the only requirement to mass shooting is that four or more people be shot how do you figure a domestic dispute where four people are shot is not a mass shooting.

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Murder is simply the killing of a human being whether you like it or not.

You would have a bunch kids with immature brains and no impulse control running around with guns.

Your source only cited the school massacres done in 2018 not the top ten massacres.

My figure was not just school shootings it was the top ten highest body count massacres. All you have to is a search for the top ten mass murders and it will show you that assault weapons are made for massacres.

The killing of a human being is the killing of a human being. To be sure suicides are a subset of murders just as those killed with guns would be another subset but they are all murders.

Again, you can have a subset but the bank robbery was one thing the shoot out was another.

I gave you the direct quote from the Wikipedia article that said they had several converted assault weapons that were full-automatic. Read it and weep.

Columbine did take place in 1999 but only the sale of assault weapons was banned the ones already out there were not confiscated.

Thus, it was an easy matter for the Columbine shooters to get their dads assault weapons. Gun violence may have been down but massacres went up.

Gun violence may have been down but massacres went up.

The increase in massacres is traceable back to the expiration of the assault weapon ban.

On the all-time high list 3 of the top 5 of the highest body count massacres occurred in the last three years. The deadliest massacre 10 years ago left just 16 dead.

...the majority of crime in the US comes from the biggest cities, which are controlled by the Dems.

I was talking about it long before Trump ever said anything.

In an April 2017 interview with The Associated Press, President Trump suddenly began talking about the hack of the Democratic National Committee a year earlier, complaining that the F.B.I. had not physically examined the compromised server.

“They brought in another company that I hear is Ukrainian-based,” the president said.

“CrowdStrike?” the surprised reporter asked, referring to the California cybersecurity company that investigated how Russian government hackers had stolen and leaked Democratic emails, disrupting Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

“That’s what I heard,” Mr. Trump resumed. “I heard it’s owned by a very rich Ukrainian; that’s what I heard.”

It's good to know you approve of corruption from the left.

Joe... is guilty of stopping an investigation by threatening to withhold military funds unless the Prosecutor who was investigating his sons company was fired...

...the SC wasn't "stacked" with rightist judges during the Obama years, yet they still had more overturned cases than any other court.

You have no right to protect yourself and your family?

We do actually have natural rights...

No one uses the term parasite as a good term, it is packed with negative connotations.

Except it isn't being used as a "scientific" term, it's being used as a degrading term to allow for the killing of unborn babies.

Would you think it was a good thing to call poor people a parasite on taxpayers?

I don't care what happens world wide, I'm concerned with the US and what happens in our borders.

It's pathetic that Zardoz has to have you to protect him from his on words.

Remember G.W. Bush? He was a conservative and he placed a lot of conservative judges in the judiciary. His father put the ultra-conservative Thomas on the SC.

Self-protection is an instinctual response. People engaged in self-defense before we even had language, let alone the concept of "rights".

Where do these "rights" exist? The concept simply describes widely-shared social conventions dressed up to appear "special".

As I explained yesterday, scientifically the term is neutral, neither good nor bad.

You're using it that way because you can't wrap your head objectively around the concept.

Um, the USA is included in the "world".

I'm not "protecting" anyone. I'm criticizing your method of debate, just as I do on other threads.

So then as I said before, that means the right to self-defense is a natural right.

Name a couple of good parasites.

It isn't being used in a scientific way, it's being used in a negative way.

No, labeling it a "right" just window-dressing applied to a basic instinct.

comrade