Are you suggesting that you have the RIGHT to smack your wife
Yes, he does feel he has the right to hit his wife, and he sees nothing wrong with hitting her
Unfortunately, his preoccupation with his sexual needs also prevents him from discussing the topic of domestic abuse/violence with any degree of objectivity
What I love is that we now grant the police the power to come into someone home even on the complain of a neighbor and on their judgment arrest one or both of a married couple against the wishes of both of them. Hell it is now required by police procudures on such calls, for the most part, that at least one member of a couple will be arrested.
Anytime that you are ready to talk about what the defintion of domestic abuse is, what it should be, who gets to decide according to the law, and what the limits are to the states rights to look into and punish this human activity
Domestic violence laws specify behaviors against a spouse or intimate partner that are considered crimes. These behaviors include physical, psychological, and sexual abuse; harassment; stalking; and destroying property, among others. Domestic violence laws vary from state to state; this guide focuses on Washington State laws.
How domestic violence laws can help
Both the criminal and civil legal system offer some protection against domestic violence.
A protection order is a civil order that restricts someone accused of domestic violence from harming, harassing, or contacting the victim. In Washington State, you do not need a lawyer to get a protection order. The court issues a temporary order once you document the facts that support your charge. The sheriff delivers a copy of the order to the person the order is filed against. A hearing for a final order occurs two weeks later.
If a person was physically attacked, sexually assaulted, threatened with a weapon, or had property damaged or stolen by an intimate partner, he or she may file criminal charges with the police. Criminal charges may be filed whether or not a protection order has been approved.
If you file charges in Washington State, you may have to go to court to testify. The court may provide an advocate to help you through your case. Because a hearing can take several months to come to trial, the court can grant a no-contact order if you fear the perpetrator may hurt you again. This order prohibits the perpetrator from having any contact with you before the trial.
According to a federal mandate, protection orders must be enforced in every state. This prevents perpetrators from going across state lines to abuse, threaten, stalk, or commit other acts of domestic violence.
Domestic violence laws in Washington State
Washington State defines domestic violence as criminal acts committed by one family or household member against a spouse, former spouse, present or former cohabitant, or a person with whom the perpetrator has had a child. Criminal acts committed by individuals 16 years of age or older against a person they are dating or have dated can also be considered domestic violence.
Crimes of domestic violence in Washington can include the following acts when willfully committed by one family or household member against another:
- Manslaughter or murder
- Reckless endangerment
- Drive-by shooting
- Criminal trespass
- Property damage
- Interfering with the reporting of domestic violence
- Violation of protection order
- Stalking or cyber stalking
- False imprisonment
Barriers to victims leaving
1. Perpetrator violence
Perpetrator’s escalating violence and control.
2. Economic barriers
Lack of housing, loss of income for self and children, loss of health, transportation, or other resources.
3. Protection of the children
Connection to the perpetrator through the perpetrator’s access to the children.
4. Lack of support
Religious, cultural, or family values that the family unit must be preserved at all costs; or victim blaming by service providers, law enforcement, or the courts.
5.Effects of trauma
Immobilization by psychological and physical trauma.
6. Inadequacy of court response
Failure of court to hold perpetrators accountable or protect victims.
Maybe you're the abuser...what happened to you in your childhood (because that is where the root started) that would cause you to degrade women in such a fashion. Do you hate yourself? Most men who abuse women have been neglected or abused themselves; and the only way that they know how to get satisfaction from what they have experienced is to take out their frustrations on the person that they are with.
Many couples don't realize this, but abuse is an illness! The behavior of an abuser originates from a place of pain and suffering; and it has must be dealt with or the behavior will continue. I have known men who have abused their wives physically and verbally because of what they saw in the interactions between their own parents. And if the victimized child does not receive the help, or the guidance that is needed, there is a possibility that the child will grow up and duplicate what he saw.
The topic of this thread is why women remain in abusive relationships. I prefer to address the topic.
It would kill you to have to admit that women of strong mind make choices that do not conform to what you want them to do,
But a considerable number of women felt their abusive male partners still possessed some good qualities: More than half (54 percent) saw their partners as highly dependable, while one in five (21 percent) felt the men in their lives possessed significant positive traits (i.e., being affectionate).
Based on the survey findings, the researchers divided the male abusers into three groups: "Dependable, yet abusive" men (44 percent of the sample) had the lowest scores for controlling and generally violent behaviors, and the highest scores for dependability and positive traits.
"Positive and controlling" men (38 percent of the sample) had moderately high scores for violence and also for dependability and positive traits. However, they were more controlling than men in the first group, displaying significantly higher levels of generally violent behaviors.
"Dangerously abusive" men (18 percent of the sample) had the highest scores for violence, controlling behavior and legal problems and the lowest scores for dependability and positive traits.
The researchers say their findings suggest there is value in studying the problem of male violence through the perceptions of abused women, including those who are currently "outside" the social services and legal systems designed to help them.
"The importance of listening to women's voices cannot be highlighted enough and needs further exploration," says O'Campo.
Do you think that "normal" men choose to be in relationships with abusive females? Why do you think that men stay in abusive relationships?
and I know for a fact that these women tend to have nothing but contempt for Firefly types who come around claiming that they are so traumatized that they can not see straight, that they need to be helped to see the light, which of course is the "it is all men's fault" line of thinking...
What do you mean by abuse?
You have already claimed that coercion is abuse so I know my definition is not the same as yours
How come you are gushing comments and explanations when the abused person is female, but you cannot address the same issue when the person being abused in the relationship is male? Do you think these men are seeking to be abused? Getting what they want by being abused?
Women are naturally bitches a lot of the time, it comes with the territory. That is why we say we can't live with them, and can't live without them.
Well, that's certainly a new low, but maybe not for you. Wow.
But no, you just go on and on with this big lie that domestic violence is cause by men and that the women get the worst of it. It is a damn shame that feminists have gotten away with this willful distortion of the facts in pursuit of their political agenda for so long, but now that the mens rights groups are rising maybe we can do something about that. And I think it is time to call out that feminists have proven themselves to be cold heartless lying bitches as well, with absolutely no interest in honesty nor in the wellbeing of men.
With men all this changes, female generated abuse tends to be verbal and emotional, and men tend to not consider that abuse but rather her being a bitch...it is about her being defective but not about her doing something to him for which he has a right to object to...This business about men dont speak up about abuse because of custom or shame is bullshit...more often then not men dont speak up because they dont think that they have anything to speak up about. Women are naturally bitches a lot of the time, it comes with the territory
domestic violence" that affects "the wellbeing of men
It's nice to know that you don't think men are really being victimized, or physically harmed, by actual domestic violence. They simply have to put up with some bitchiness, and that's no big deal because all "women are naturally bitches a lot of the time".
Women, and not just feminists, do take the issue of domestic violence quite seriously.
I've wasted enough time with you.