House of Reps. member Giffords shot in Arizona today

@BillW,

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bs - it is relevant for legal, political and Psychology purposes - duh

What is your argument? Mine is that the definition of crazy is that we the majority no longer recognize the processing of their minds as being similar to ours. If we cant make any sense out of their mind then we dont place any value on the results of their minds.

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@plainoldme,

a paranoid schizophrenic can plan - but, this is not something the right want to believe - it gets too close to home

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@hawkeye10,

....if you want to believe that, but, not the majority, about 22% on the far right. The rest of us care and can see that the 22% on the far right is for the most part ones to be very close to one and the same. The majority are trying to spot it and stop it - legally, mentally and politically.

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@BillW,

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a paranoid schizophrenic can plan - but, this is not something the right want to believe - it gets too close to home

They can also watch Fox news and pick up all kinds of ideas...

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@firefly,

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They can also watch Fox news and pick up all kinds of ideas...

I suppose that we could do away with the Fourth Estate and eliminate what remains of individual freedom also , but what are you going to do about the crazy persons ability to tune into Cartoon Network for Road Runner and Coyote?? There are loads of ideas in that show that a crazy person might find appealing....and none of them too appetizing for the rest of us.

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@hawkeye10,

Yes, but watching Fox News routinely exposes the viewer to all that gun-themed and violent political rhetoric, coupled with a call to action...it specializes in getting people angry and worked up toward it's political "targets"

Who knows whether Jared Loughner watched Fox News? It's not beyond the realm of possibility...

And, we don't know who else out there might decide to take the gun-themed, violent, call-to-action message to heart...

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@firefly,

firefly wrote:

Yes, but watching Fox News routinely exposes the viewer to all that gun-themed and violent political rhetoric, coupled with a call to action...it specializes in getting people angry and worked up toward it's political "targets"

Who knows whether Jared Loughner watched Fox News? It's not beyond the realm of possibility...

What DIFFERENCE does it make whether he did, or not?????
He acted upon the basis of his own psychotic derangement.

firefly wrote:

And, we don't know who else out there might decide to take the gun-themed,
violent, call-to-action message to heart...

Free speech remains what it is,
regardless of how popular it is with the left.

David

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@firefly,

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Yes, but watching Fox News routinely exposes the viewer to all that gun-themed and violent political rhetoric, coupled with a call to action...it specializes in getting people angry and worked up toward it's political "targets"

And so do all agents of revolution...are you going to claim that Citizens do not have the right to mount revolution? And if we do have the right then what are you complaining about? If you think we dont have the right then I suggest that you sit yourself down with the Declaration of Independence and get yourself some education.

BTW....You are avoiding the question.....Is Coyote next to go in your seemingly endless project to keep the peace and protect all weak and/or stupid and/or crazy people from getting harmed or harming others? Is he the last? No matter how deeply we intrude upon the sovereignty of the individual are you EVER going to stand up and say enough is enough..are you EVER going to be willing to allow that even a single person might be too weak or too stupid to make a go at life and that we need to let them go so that we can live? We hear a lot about the nutty right around A2k, but you dear lady prove that the nutty left can match.

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@hawkeye10,

In Britain we do not allow nutty people to possess guns, nor anyone else to do so for that matter.

This works well.

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are you going to claim that Citizens do not have the right to mount revolution

This argument, if you can call it that, is so daft.
If you are suggesting that an armed citizenry has a chance to overthrow a modern state by force, I have to inform you that the days of the flintlock musket are over.

Under what circumstances can you forsee a successful revolution in your country?

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@McTag,

what, you never watch Red Dawn Razz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Dawn

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@McTag,

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This argument, if you can call it that, is so daft.
If you are suggesting that an armed citizenry has a chance to overthrow a modern state by force, I have to inform you that the days of the flintlock musket are over.

Under what circumstances can you forsee a successful revolution in your country?

Seizing military equipments is going to be a first step to any revolt so it not going to be tanks and jets against citizens with handguns and rifles for long. Handguns and rifles will be useful however to do that seizing in the first place.

Second, all the military forces in the world is not going to work if soldiers by the individuals and by the small units and by larger units start to refused orders to fire on and engage in combat their fellow citizens and turn on that modern state themselves.

The tanks unit send to seize Yeltsin during the collapse of the USSR is an example of that.

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@McTag,

Second you can use personal weapons to make the cost to the state so high that they cannot go forward with some action or other.

If the Jews in Nazis Germany for example would had been heavily arm the price in SS lives to round them up and place them onto trains to the death camps would had likely been too high to do so.

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@BillRM,

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If the Jews in Nazis Germany for example would had been heavily arm the price in SS lives to round them up and place them onto trains to the death camps would had likely been too high to do so.

Well that's probably very true. (Although the Nazis kept the "resettlement/ Arbeit macht frei" lie going very successfully up to nearly the end. No-one believed they were really intending mass murder until too late).

So Mr Obama can stop building these mysterious camps. You're way to savvy for him.

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@okie,

I see you are not willing to connect the dots okie. How unusual for you to not connect dots.

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@parados,

The last time Okie played connect the dots, everyone else in class got a zebra, and he got a Cheshire cat.

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@DrewDad,

OH no.. Okie is happy to call Obama a Marxist and accuse anyone that doesn't agree with him of not connecting the dots. And certainly there is more evidence that Palin motivated the shooter if he was willing to connect those dots.

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@BillRM,

Give over Bill. You've been watching too many movies and inserting yourself into the heroic freedom fighter role.

All communications can be shut down and connurbations isolated and dealt with one at once. If the army does help the "citizens" it is to take power itself.

Your guns are only useful for killing each other and, in the last analysis, the power elite isn't too bothered about that. The big fuss over such things is to do with careers.

The idea that you are free is ridiculous. One whiff of serious trouble and the shops would be cleaned out in an hour. Electricity turned off.

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@spendius,

What are you, a communist?

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@Ticomaya,

I think you are Tico. Labels mean nothing to me. Nepotism is the same all ends up and there's none of that in the Catholic Church.

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@McTag,

McTag wrote:

In Britain we do not allow nutty people to possess guns,
nor anyone else to do so for that matter.

WE have a free country; u don't.

McTag wrote:

This works well.

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are you going to claim that Citizens do not have the right to mount revolution

This argument, if you can call it that, is so daft.
If you are suggesting that an armed citizenry has a chance to overthrow a modern state by force,
I have to inform you that the days of the flintlock musket are over.

Under what circumstances can you forsee a successful revolution in your country?

In the beginning of my Republic, that was set forth
by its Founders, as more than abstract theory.
(Thay had just finished DOING it.)

As of now,
the THEORY continues intact
that we citizens have the RIGHT
to fire our hireling government.
Circumstances that woud justify that,
woud include, for instance,
a suspension of elections
or an order that Christians be rounded up
to be put in camps.

Do u see the theory, Mr. McTag?

David

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