The Future President, Donald Trump

Do you guys even read each other's posts? CI said he couldn't imagine someone working for Trump, Bill said maybe to support their families and put food on the table and somehow Bill (who defended low wage Trump workers) is blaming wage slaves?

Clash of Republican Con Artists
Paul Krugman, NYT, March 4, 2016

So Republicans are going to nominate a candidate who talks complete nonsense on domestic policy; who believes that foreign policy can be conducted via bullying and belligerence; who cynically exploits racial and ethnic hatred for political gain.

But that was always going to happen, however the primary season turned out. The only news is that the candidate in question is probably going to be Donald Trump. Establishment Republicans denounce Mr. Trump as a fraud, which he is. But is he more fraudulent than the establishment trying to stop him? Not really.

Actually, when you look at the people making those denunciations, you have to wonder: Can they really be that lacking in self-awareness?

Donald Trump is a “con artist,” says Marco Rubio — who has promised to enact giant tax cuts, undertake a huge military buildup and balance the budget without any cuts in benefits to Americans over 55.

“There can be no evasion and no games,” thunders Paul Ryan, the speaker of the House — whose much-hyped budgets are completely reliant on “mystery meat,” that is, it claims trillions of dollars in revenue can be collected by closing unspecified tax loopholes and trillions more saved through unspecified spending cuts.


Mr. Ryan also declares that the “party of Lincoln” must “reject any group or cause that is built on bigotry.” Has he ever heard of Nixon’s “Southern strategy”; of Ronald Reagan’s invocations of welfare queens and “strapping young bucks” using food stamps; of Willie Horton?

Put it this way: There’s a reason whites in the Deep South vote something like 90 percent Republican, and it’s not their philosophical attachment to libertarian principles.

Then there’s foreign policy, where Mr. Trump is, if anything, more reasonable — or more accurately, less unreasonable — than his rivals. He’s fine with torture, but who on that side of the aisle isn’t? He’s belligerent, but unlike Mr. Rubio, he isn’t the favorite of the neoconservatives, a.k.a. the people responsible for the Iraq debacle. He’s even said what everyone knows but nobody on the right is supposed to admit, that the Bush administration deliberately misled America into that disastrous war.

Oh, and it’s Ted Cruz, not Mr. Trump, who seems eager to “carpet bomb” people, without appearing to know what that means.

In fact, you have to wonder why, exactly, the Republican establishment is really so horrified by Mr. Trump. Yes, he’s a con man, but they all are. So why is this con job different from any other?

The answer, I’d suggest, is that the establishment’s problem with Mr. Trump isn’t the con he brings; it’s the cons he disrupts.

First, there’s the con Republicans usually manage to pull off in national elections — the one where they pose as a serious, grown-up party honestly trying to grapple with America’s problems. The truth is that that party died a long time ago, that these days it’s voodoo economics and neocon fantasies all the way down. But the establishment wants to preserve the facade, which will be hard if the nominee is someone who refuses to play his part.

By the way, I predict that even if Mr. Trump is the nominee, pundits and others who claim to be thoughtful conservatives will stroke their chins and declare, after a great show of careful deliberation, that he’s the better choice given Hillary’s character flaws, or something. And self-proclaimed centrists will still find a way to claim that the sides are equally bad. But both acts will look especially strained.

Equally important, the Trump phenomenon threatens the con the G.O.P. establishment has been playing on its own base. I’m talking about the bait and switch in which white voters are induced to hate big government by dog whistles about Those People, but actual policies are all about rewarding the donor class.

What Donald Trump has done is tell the base that it doesn’t have to accept the whole package. He promises to make America white again — surely everyone knows that’s the real slogan, right? — while simultaneously promising to protect Social Security and Medicare, and hinting at (though not actually proposing) higher taxes on the rich. Outraged establishment Republicans splutter that he’s not a real conservative, but neither, it turns out, are many of their own voters.

Just to be clear, I find the prospect of a Trump administration terrifying, and so should you. But you should also be terrified by the prospect of a President Rubio, sitting in the White House with his circle of warmongers, or a President Cruz, who one suspects would love to bring back the Spanish Inquisition.

As I see it, then, we should actually welcome Mr. Trump’s ascent. Yes, he’s a con man, but he is also effectively acting as a whistle-blower on other people’s cons. That is, believe it or not, a step forward in these weird, troubled times.

Bullshit wage slaves indeed as no one is tracking down walmart employees to return them to the stories and there are a million and one paths to get ahead in the US.

Hell if you do not care for colleges there are trade schools that allow for one hell of a good life.

No I am talking about a subset of young black males who had done trillions of dollars of damages to city centers in my lifetime.

As Sharpton had stated no justice no peace as in his provoking the death of a number of Jewish New Yorkers for example over a rental disagreement that should had been settle in courts not by blood flowing into the streets.

Measur s such as burning blocks of small businesses and such deeds as dragging out a truck driver out of his cab and beating him almost to death?

Sounds like the KKK.

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No they being blacks are not members of the KKK and most are not even members of the new black panther party.

Just hoodlums who being black used claims of racial injustices to justify their crimes.

Were there days when you didn't have anything to eat at all?

In Medieval times people could be killed for stealing a loaf of bread. The fact that they still took the risk shows how desperate they were.

It rarely foods stores that are the target of racial rioting in the US it more likely to be high end cloths, jewels, electronic stores.

You hit the nail on the head, my friend!

We had riots over here, there were people of all ethnicities involved in rioting and looting. It's not something confined to Blacks.

Not many black people involved in Enron and all the other multi million frauds perpetrated by corporate suited criminals.

Ikr? Enron has hurt more lives, and that doesnt even include the mortgage meltdown. While Enron traders were laughing about how CA wildfires and their purposefully created blackouts were making them rich, my husband has family in CA. (We were living in Tucson at the time).
While the mortage market was exploding into unobtainable levels for an average American to buy a home, we sat in a crappy 2 bedroom rental house, waiting for the bubble to pop. Cuz even us, knew it had to happen. Yet the best economists of the world, either denied or warned and those warnings were ignored. Well we didnt ignore them. We were living it. Sadly, for us to get our dream home, someone else lost theirs.
Do you think Trump cares at all about that? Do you think he wants realistic banking regulation? Pls!

Other then college kids doing some rioting after a sporting event I can not think of any large scale riots that was not mainly black citizens at least in my lifetime.

The deep south had some major riots between the two world wars where blacks was the victims of white rioters.

In fact some whites go ahold of military aircrafts an bomb out a southern black town in the 1920s.

We cant fix the past, but we sure should be learning from it. Apparently the rural white majority (and sadly I still live in that part of the US), have hardly cracked a history book, nor have any introspect into the history of the human race. Anyone that votes for Trump or seriously says they will, is a bunch of ignorant, sheltered, uncultured bigots. I know the type. When the argument goes south for them (pun inintended), they resort to insults and intimidation. A 60's rehash?
A guy I grew up with in school I got back in touch with on FB. The topic turned to politics. He attacked my FB page with remarks that disturbed my friends. At one point he tried to defend the KKK! He said they were formed to "protect farmsteads after the Civil War!" Can you believe it?
After a few of my friends blasted him with political cartoons lampooning his opinion, he responded with, (and my hisband thinks its the funniest thing ever), that, "Its like fingering your sister and finding your dad's wedding ring!" Omg! All my friends lost their mind! To this day, I dont know what point he was trying to make with that post, but what came out of it, was a typicl southern steotype that all southerners are inbred and therefore stupid. And he played right into it!

I don't think your memory is a reliable source.

Have you read my post, because you don't seem to have understood it?

Is it opposite day where you are?

Which post?

I read your post about Enron and agreed and expanded on it.

Judge Napolitano nails it all here, for mine.

http://thinkaboutnow.com/2016/03/watch-how-to-get-kicked-off-fox-news-in-5-minutes/

It didn't sound like you were agreeing with me. It sounded very much like the opposite.



Sounds very much like you're suggesting I think Trump does care about it all.