revelette2
 
  2  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 09:00 am
@tsarstepan,
Please tell me, (didn't watch so don't know) Trump didn't actually refer to his genitals during a presidential debate?
BillRM
 
  2  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 09:02 am
@McGentrix,
Quote:
try to compare him to the Robber Barons of old are you?


LOL you hardly need to go that far in the past, let see the Coulter brothers my former bosses , Land of polaroid, Bill Grate of microsoft, Jobs of Apple, Sears of Sears and on and on and on.

Trump is a no body.
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McGentrix
 
  -3  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 09:06 am
@engineer,
engineer wrote:

Successful means that the reward/risk ratio is higher than the average person could achieve. While most of my money is invested in well diversified funds, I do have some money that I try to invest on my own. Sometimes I win big, sometimes I lose. I measure my success on beating the market with less risk. If I tie the market, I consider that I lose since I put time and effort into it, usually take more risk and didn't get a better return.

Trump has significantly under performed the market. If he had retired in 1982 and put all his money in an index fund, he would have made significantly more money than he made on his business ventures. He had higher risk and lower rewards. He is in a business where he should have been able to make a killing if he was successful. He in under performing on reward while taking higher risk so I deem him not successful.


Ok, that is a valid way of determining success. I hope you don't think it the only way though. How boring a life would that be to just retire 30 years ago? Does Trump seem like the kind of guy that would just retire? Nah. He has a zest for life and he uses his money to try new things and new endeavors. He is trying to make the name Trump synonymous with luxury and wealth. He has been successful and he has failed. His main business and the one he started in was real estate. He has been very successful in that. He's used that success to try other business opportunities and some have failed, like the airlines, the vodka, the magazine, the steaks, etc. But none of those are his primary bread and butter.

He has risked a lot and in doing so has failed a lot. But. he's also had successes like The Apprentice, Trump International Tower Chicago, Trump Place and others previously mentioned. His books have been best sellers.

I understand you don't like him, but that doesn't mean he isn't successful. Look at Hillary Clinton. She is a successful politician, but she is also a giant, well, let's just leave it at that.



spooky24
 
  -4  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 09:08 am
@Lash,
Donald Trump has done absolutely nothing. He is a private citizen and does not have any power at all in politics or law enforcement. Saying things on the campaign trail for president-while still being private citizen means nothing.
Would you like to hear what President Kennedy said on the campaign trail in 1960? In one appearance he looked very tired and answered about his religion that 'Catholicism was incompatible with the secular office of president-however my faith is'---compatible'. Nobody took it seriously because he was just spouting off-like Trump does. How about some of the stupid things Obama said in 2008? Or Reagan's ad- hock about chipping away California and 'let it slip away'. Mondale told NBC that 'a couple of more wars ought to improve things' and FDR's 'work them till they drop.
Obliviously you know nothing of history and all you have is google education.
The Fuhrer knew nothing of Mexicans-blacks-Asians and had a good relationship with the middle east. You people never stop bitching about 'socialism' however your lack of history-or knowledge that your only source of history is brainwashing google. National Socialism after 1933 every single German had a job, a house, birth to death health care, food the state even buried you. There was little crime, the state sent you on vacation, provided everyone with theater tickets along with extra money at Christmas. For the first 7 years it was a socialist dream. And of course Party membership was not required. Not surprisingly, there is nothing about this on google.
In his own way the Fuhrer was perhaps a great man-however his wanton militarism, purposeless attacks and driven by his own hatred brought it all down-however the Reich's destruction there was plenty of guilt to go around-mostly the general staff and his collection of brawling donkeys.
Now-for the rest of your nonsense this dopey message:"mob scenes where members of these groups are physically attacked" These rallies are on PRIVATE PROPERTY-and I can throw anyone off my land if I choose-and so could you-if you owned any land which I doubt. There are huge sighs that point this out before you enter the rally. You wouldn't know that since you have never been to a political rally.
So lets see-you were wrong in that the Fuhrer didn't even know these groups-you were also wrong because presidential elections sling the mud and everyone says stupid stuff. You know absolutely nothing about socialism-and are helpless in you understanding of the censorship, and bias of google.

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revelette2
 
  3  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 09:29 am
A couple of minutes ago I deleted a post because upon further reading I read the bottom of the source and realized it wasn't a very good source to leave up in my post. I found some other ones. My point is simply to show how Trump eggs on his supporters to violence at rally's when BLM and other protestors show up. (what ever happened to the notion of free speech?) The following may not be the best source either but at least it has embedded links and shows a pattern.

In Ugliest Rally Yet Trump Supporters Shove African-Americans While Spewing Hate

engineer
 
  8  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 10:59 am
@McGentrix,
That seems like a selective way measuring success. If I look at only my good stock picks, I am the world's best investor. There is no doubt that Trump has a name and that "The Apprentice" has been a success. But in his real estate as well as his other ventures, his "success" seems to be more about luck than business acumen. Yes, there are some very nice hotels in places where someone was going to build a very nice hotel, but there doesn't seem to be any consensus that Trump has a unique eye for spotting areas of the market that are underdeveloped or undervalued, that Trump has a principled formula for adding value or that Trump has a knack for seeing opportunity where others don't. Warren Buffett has had a few losses in his days, but his techniques for evaluating companies, spotting underperforming assets that can be turned around and then joining the boards of these companies and guiding them to success is legendary. Trump started a mortgage company at the top of the real estate bubble. He built casinos in overheated markets and had them go under. There just doesn't seem to be any overarching knowledge that separates him from others. It's not like he sees value where others don't. Some of his other ventures make it look like he just doesn't care. Trump University is an interesting concept, but it would require an insane amount of work to translate his experience into something others could learn from. It looks like he likes the idea but wasn't willing to put in the work. Same with the vodka and steaks. It is one thing to say these are the finest products available, it is another to make sure that they are (and they weren't.)

Trump has had successes and failures but it doesn't look like work on his part is making the successes more successful and the failures less likely.
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BillRM
 
  0  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 11:44 am
@revelette2,
.
Quote:
(what ever happened to the notion of free speech?)


There is no free speech rights on someone else property.
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glitterbag
 
  4  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 11:57 am
@revelette2,
Watching Trump stir up a crowd makes me sick. As a private citizen, he can be as much of a jerk as he wants, but let's say the worst thing in the history of the USA happens, and that clown actually becomes the president. Will press conferences become travesties like Jerry Springer shows. Will he answer to the people of this country or will he ridicule us. Can you imagine him delivering the State of the Union? Will he tell our country that things are so good you'll get tired of how good it is, it's very very good, it can't get gooder.

Tragically there will be another massacre of young children in a school killed by another deranged person, that seems to be the path we are on. Imagine Trump standing and addressing the country on TV attempting to comfort the parents and all the rest of those in shock over another senseless shooting. Will he mug, do one of his shoulder shrugs and say it's terrible, terrible, some people I'm telling you , am I right? Of course, I hate to tell you but some people.

So for those of you who want a carnival barker at the helm, you will have one. Unless the American people realize this is not an event meant to entertain us, but the freeking election of the President of the United States I see our country becoming the laughing stock of the rest of the world.

PS for Revelette, yes that idiot Trump did indeed reference his withered man parts and assure the crowd "there's no problem, believe me" while the cheering yahoos went nuts.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 01:12 pm
@glitterbag,
What can we do when there are so many ignorant people in this country who believes Trump is god's gift to our country. He's so ignorant, I'm afraid of his power to nuke another country, just so he'll be in the history books. He's a "ME" guy, an egotistic ignoramus of the worst kind.
glitterbag
 
  2  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 01:25 pm
@cicerone imposter,
It's a dark period in our history. He truly frightens me, any man that feels he needs to crow about his man parts is not fit to run a bake-sale.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 01:30 pm
@glitterbag,
Unfortunately, the fact is, Trump runs many companies. He claims many minorities work for him. I wonder why they even work for this racial bigot.
ehBeth
 
  2  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 01:33 pm
@cicerone imposter,
He does? is he correct?
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 01:39 pm
@ehBeth,
Also, http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-07-07/donald-trump-s-employees-don-t-share-wealth-in-401-k-plan
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 01:40 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Trump's claim that he's going to make "America Great Again."
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-companies-foreign-workers-report/
Lash
 
  2  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 07:26 pm
I don't know but the last few parcecs of this thread is like a bad acid trip.
BillRM
 
  -1  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 08:51 pm
@Lash,
Quote:
last few parcecs of this thread is like a bad acid trip.


So you are an expert on acid tripping?
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BillRM
 
  0  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 08:54 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
I wonder why they even work for this racial bigot.


To support their wives and kids and put food on the table perhaps?
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 09:14 pm
@BillRM,
I knew you'd never 'get it.'
BillRM
 
  1  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 09:28 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
I knew you'd never 'get it.'


Of course not as in your universe hungry kids and a home without power or heat are minor compare not working for such an asshole as Trump.
cicerone imposter
 
  2  
Mon 7 Mar, 2016 09:33 pm
@cicerone imposter,
The Donald said he's going to bring back jobs to the US, but he's applied to import 1,100 jobs from foreign countries.

Quote:
Records show Donald Trump's companies have applied for at least 1,100 temporary visas for foreign workers since 2000, according to a new report. Pictured: Presidential Candidate Donald Trump outside his hotel at Turnberry Resort, Scotland.


Any one want to buy a bridge I have to sell? Cheap.
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