Mosque to be Built Near Ground Zero

joefromchicago wrote:

Foofie wrote:

The "object lesson" I refer to is the same "object lesson" that makes me, in the way of analogy, never to visit Germany, or buy anything "expensive" from German companies (I do buy Bayer aspirin). Continuing - I believe that I as a Jew am telling all people (not just Germans) that if one chooses to kill Jews, do not expect them to come back after the "killing" has ended like friendly puppies.

So Islam is responsible for 9/11 in the same way that Germany was responsible for the Holocaust?

An "object lesson" has nothing to do with who may be "responsible." All Germans were not responsible for the Final Solution (the Holocaust is a misnomer, since 12 million Jews and Christians died in the Holocaust); however, an "object lesson" is what I am saying by having nothing to do with Germany as a vacation destination, or the direction of any purchases (beyond the cost of Bayer aspirin).

So it is a non-sequitor to feel that the antipathy to this mosque at Ground Zero has anything to do with the culpability, or non-culpability, of all Moslems. It might be an "object lesson," based on the possibility that the radical Moslems might then realize that their Jihad against the west has detrimental effects on fellow Muslims living in the west.

Foofie wrote:

joefromchicago wrote:

Foofie wrote:

The "object lesson" I refer to is the same "object lesson" that makes me, in the way of analogy, never to visit Germany, or buy anything "expensive" from German companies (I do buy Bayer aspirin). Continuing - I believe that I as a Jew am telling all people (not just Germans) that if one chooses to kill Jews, do not expect them to come back after the "killing" has ended like friendly puppies.

So Islam is responsible for 9/11 in the same way that Germany was responsible for the Holocaust?

An "object lesson" has nothing to do with who may be "responsible." All Germans were not responsible for the Final Solution (the Holocaust is a misnomer, since 12 million Jews and Christians died in the Holocaust); however, an "object lesson" is what I am saying by having nothing to do with Germany as a vacation destination, or the direction of any purchases (beyond the cost of Bayer aspirin).

So it is a non-sequitor to feel that the antipathy to this mosque at Ground Zero has anything to do with the culpability, or non-culpability, of all Moslems. It might be an "object lesson," based on the possibility that the radical Moslems might then realize that their Jihad against the west has detrimental effects on fellow Muslims living in the west.

I'm sorry. It has been a few days, and I haven't had a chance to respond to your post, but I didn't want it to get buried under all of the subsequent posts and forgotten. Anyway, that's the biggest pile of horseshit I've ever seen -- and I've been to the rodeo.

My apologies. I paraphrased, I should have used single quotation marks. You wrote in full...

My apologies. I paraphrased, I should have used single quotation marks. You wrote in full...

I am under the impression that single quotation marks (aka, apostrophe)
are used to denote a direct quote within a quote that uses quotation marks.

I have never been to a rodeo. I do like horses.

When I lived in Arizona, I attended some rodeos.





David

So, I would predict that when American Muslims evolve their livelihoods beyond taxi cab drivers, food cart vendors, small retail store owners, or franchise owners, and start to serve the general public as doctors, teachers, dentists, etc. (aka, "professionals"), I believe that a good percentage of the general population will have an epiphany that Muslims are nice.

According to a 2004 telephone survey of a sample of 1846 Muslims conducted by the polling organization Zogby, the respondents were more educated and affluent than the national average, with 59% of them holding at least an undergraduate college degree. Citing the Zogby survey, a 2005 Wall Street Journal editorial by Bret Stephens and Joseph Rago expressed the tendency of American Muslims to report employment in professional fields, with one in three having an income over $75,000 a year. The editorial also characterized American Muslims as "role models both as Americans and as Muslims".

Unlike many Muslims in Europe, American Muslims do not tend to feel marginalized or isolated from political participation. Several organizations were formed by the American Muslim community to serve as 'critical consultants' on U.S. policy regarding Iraq and Afghanistan. Other groups have worked with law enforcement agencies to point out Muslims within the United States that they suspect of fostering 'intolerant attitudes'. Still others have worked to invite interfaith dialogue and improved relations between Muslim and non-Muslim Americans.

As of May 30, 2005, over 15,000 Muslims were serving in the United States Armed Forces

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_States

When I lived in Arizona, I attended some rodeos.





David

Did they have mosques there as well?

I think that they should be allowed to build a mosque where ever the city allows it legally.

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According to a 2004 telephone survey of a sample of 1846 Muslims conducted by the polling organization Zogby, the respondents were more educated and affluent than the national average, with 59% of them holding at least an undergraduate college degree.