Mosque to be Built Near Ground Zero

Maybe the Imposter should look at the words of Xun Zi :

"The petty man is eager to make boasts, yet desires that others should believe in him. He enthusiastically engages in deception, yet wants others to have affection for him. He conducts himself like an animal, yet wants others to think well of him."

I want him to understand
that his alleged "proof" does not prove
what he claims it does. He shoud be able to see that.





David

Happy New Year from the peace loving Muslims.

Reporting from Cairo — At least 21 people attending a Christian Mass were killed and 79 injured when a bomb exploded outside an Alexandria church in the first hour of the New Year, Egyptian officials said.

The blast struck Coptic worshipers as they exited the Qidiseen, or saints, Church just after a New Year's Eve Mass in the eastern section of Alexandria, the ancient city along Egypt's Mediterranean coast.

According to the Ministry of Health, all but eight of the injured and all the fatalities were Christians. No one claimed immediate responsibility for the attack. The Ministry of Information quoted an unnamed official as saying a suicide bomber may have carried out the attack and "foreign terrorists" were responsible.



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The bombing sparked street clashes between police and angry Copts, who reacted by hurling stones, storming a nearby mosque and throwing some of its books out in the street. Security forces cordoned the scene and used tear gas to disperse the crowd. An eyewitness told state-run newspaper Al Ahram that a priest calmed the angry Copts and urged them to stay inside the church.

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak condemned the attack as a "criminal terrorist act" and called on the Christians and Muslims "to close ranks and confront the forces of terrorism and those who want to undermine the security, stability and unity" of the country, the official MENA news agency reported.

The bombing transformed a joyous New Year celebration into a grim reminder of the country's religious strife.

An eyewitness told Al Ahram that the massive explosion rocked the church.

"It was about 15 minutes after midnight when we heard the sound of the explosion. We came out of the church to find two cars on fire," said Sami Saad, who was inside the church at the time of the explosion. "Everyone was frightened and people were screaming after we saw scattered parts of the dead bodies mixing with blood to cover the ground."

While many described it as another in a series of episodes of sectarian violence, Alexandria's governor said Al Qaeda could be behind the bombing.

"There have been recent threats of Al Qaeda attacks on Egyptian churches," Gov. Adel Labib told Egyptian television.

Sectarian violence has become chronic in recent years in Egypt. Three Muslims are on trial for the killing of six Copts and a Muslim outside a church in the southern Egyptian city of Nagaa Hammadi a year ago, an incident that prompted riots by thousands of enraged Copts.

Conflicts are often the result of conversions by Muslims to Christianity and vice versa. Hundreds of Muslims have recently protested the alleged imprisonment by priests of two Christian women who converted to Islam.

With about 10% of the country's population, Copts are Egypt's largest religious minority and make up the largest Christian community in the Middle East.

Hassan is a special correspondent. Times staff writer Borzou Daragahi in Beirut contributed to this report.
Copyright © 2010, Los Angeles Times


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http://www.newsweek.com/content/newsweek/2010/12/23/feisal-abdul-rauf.html

AS predicted, these amateurs are not showing the ability to move this project forwards.

http://www.earnedmedia.org/judw1229.htm

As if Bloomberg needed any more problems

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-collins/bloombergs-blizzard-blund_b_802473.html

I lost 2 friends at ground zero and 1 on flight 93. My father helped build the twin towers and I worked on the reflecting ponds for a little while. It was hard being there. I kept thinking that there shouldn't be a second one built because the first
one should still be standing. I do not want the mosque built there. Its just wrong.
I find it very hard to believe that anybody would think its okay.Thats all I can say right now.

I think it's okay, because the people building it had nothing to do with the attack on the towers. Persecuting them for the actions of other is wrong.

A
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Mosques are used/had been used as a cover and support for terrorist acts and there is zero need to have the support of the people how build the Mosques in the first plac.

My sense of the situation is that the Moslems
r doing that to rub our noses in their victory over us on 9/11/1.
It is their way of gloating, on a permanent basis,
like putting up a monument to John Wilkes Booth in Washington, at Ford 's Theater.





David

David, I cannot find any valid reason for the mosque. Even without my connection to the site I would feel the same. Its a shame that some find it acceptable. Their logic escapes me.

Bill

What's escaping you is the US Constitution, and the facts surrounding this issue. They have all been discussed on this thread - ad nauseum.

I'm wondering if you know all of their reactions on 911. Did they cry or clap?

The constitution block the government from preventing the Mosque from being build not from citizens applying legal pressures to keep it from happening.

That's not the issue; the issue is the US Constitution. Those wishing to build the community center are not the terrorists.

What people like you are advocating is simple discrimination based on religion.

Are you white? Do you know of any white terrorists? I do. If you'd like, I can name many for you. Should we discriminate against you?

BTW, I'm talking about white terrorists who have killed more than 3000 people.

so if i understand you, Its okay because its legal? I have not said anything about
that. I just can't find any good reason to do it. Please enlighten me

The constitution does not block all kind of finance pressures by private citizens aim at any of the backers of the mosque for example or the labor unions not wishing their membership to work on such a project or.............

You are way off base. i have not said anything like that.

The good reason? Because they are American citizens and they want to build something. That's the only reason that you, I or anyone else needs. Because that's how America works.

Freedom isn't just for some - it's for everyone. If you support America and the ideals we stand for, you support the right for these people to build a mosque.

Cycloptichorn

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/08/20/2010-08-20_we_wont_build_it_hardhats_say_no_way_they_will_work_on_wtc_mosque.html


They won't build it! Hardhats vow not to work on controversial mosque near Ground Zero
BY Samuel Goldsmith
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Friday, August 20th 2010, 4:00 AM

A growing number of New York construction workers are vowing not to work on the mosque planned near Ground Zero.

"It's a very touchy thing because they want to do this on sacred ground," said Dave Kaiser, 38, a blaster who is working to rebuild the World Trade Center site.

"I wouldn't work there, especially after I found out about what the imam said about U.S. policy being responsible for 9/11," Kaiser said.

The grass-roots movement is gaining momentum on the Internet. One construction worker created the "Hard Hat Pledge" on his blog and asked others to vow not to work on the project if it stays on Park Place.

"Thousands of people are signing up from all over the country," said creator Andy Sullivan, a construction worker from Brooklyn. "People who sell glass, steel, lumber, insurance. They are all refusing to do work if they build there."

"Hopefully, this will be a tool to get them to move it," he said. "I got a problem with this ostentatious building looming over Ground Zero."

A planned 13-story community center and mosque two blocks from Ground Zero, Park51 has exploded into a national debate.

Louis Coletti, president of the Building Trades Employers' Association, said unions have not yet taken a "formal position" on Park51, but he understands why members would be hesitant to work there.

"It's a very difficult dilemma for the contractors and the organized labor force because we are experiencing such high levels of unemployment," he said. "Yet at the same time, this is a very sacred sight to the union guys."

"There were construction workers killed on 9/11 and many more who got horribly sick cleaning up Ground Zero," Coletti said. "It's very emotional."

L.V. Spina, a Manhattan construction worker who created anti-mosque stickers that some workers are slapping on their hardhats, said he would "rather pick cans and bottles out of trash cans" than build the Islamic center near Ground Zero.

"But if they moved it somewhere else, we would put up a prime building for these people," he said. "Hell, you could do it next to my house in Rockaway Beach, I would be fine with it. But I'm not fine with it where blood has been spilled."

Spina, who sells 9/11 apparel on his website, said he's printed thousands of stickers and plans to produce thousands more.

"They're going all over the country," he said. "They got pretty popular fast."

Popularity aside, there are some construction workers choosing not to set themselves against the project.

"Hundreds of guys here are wearing stickers as a sign of protest, but I'm on the fence about it," said Frank Langan, 50, a site superintendent from Queens working at Ground Zero.

I agree with you that they have the right to build it. Always have. That doesn't mean they should , it only means they could.

But why shouldn't they?

I was just at the very location of this place a few months ago. To say it is 'at ground zero' is a joke. It's blocks away and you can't see the WTC from the spot. There are other, smaller mosques closer to the WTC than this.

What's the rationale for saying they shouldn't build there?

Cycloptichorn