I can't tell if he's having an orgasm without ejaculation, or if maybe I just really suck at oral.

@ossobuco,

Oh, wait, what was the question?

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@hawkeye10,

Quote:

Everyone here - from what I can tell - is very stubborn

hawkeye10 wrote:

Stubborn as mules, many of us.

For so long as we believe that we r right,
it is ignoble to surrender our principles and defer to the rong. We must stick to our guns.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

What are you saying, David?

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@ossobuco,

ossobuco wrote:

What are you saying, David?

For as long as u consider yourself to be right, u shoud stand up for your convictions.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Well, yeh. Mostly I'm sad.

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@ossobuco,

ossobuco wrote:

Well, yeh. Mostly I'm sad.

It does not pay to be sad.

David

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@aidan,

You know what Aidan?

I just remember What exactly you reposted that I said that made me so irate.

It wasn't me "spewing **** at you" Maybe (most likely) I did some of that, but here is what you reposted that appalled me.

You were, in a thread, having a back and forth with another A2K member.
You and that person were not seeing eye to eye, but you weren't aware of some background that made that person what they were.

I PM'd you telling you something about that person that would make you understand why they were acting the way they did.
I was cluing you in to something about them, that you didn't know.

You copied and pasted that conversation, using that other A2Kers name, one that is known to everyone, and printed exactly what I had said to you, in confidence, about that person.
Did I say derisive things to you, included in that? Probably.

But you, from a private message, using someone elses name, publicly printed my words about someone else here, that everyone knows.

You did far worse than what the OP did.

You, without my permission, reposted my comments, using someone's name, and what I privately said about why that person may be acting like they did.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

No, I don't carry anger around.
But I don't develop amensia.
It took me awhile to remember what exactly it was that angered me, but now I remember.
I couldn't, and won't deny, that I probably wasn't nice to you. But what was the crux of the matter was that you named names, and repeated what had been said in confidence

I remember, if not specifics about an event, what the end result was.

In this case, you can't be trusted.

Now you get on somone anonymous, anonymously talking about a situation going on in their lives?

Look in the mirror.

(you didn't know PRIVATE messages weren't sent around? Oh please)

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@chai2,

Am I the only one that got a PM from Aidan 4 or 5 years ago claiming to be a man posing as a woman and doing a phychological study. Not sure why I got that. And, further saying that his cousin, aunt or some such would use the account in the future?

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@Intrepid,

The only PM's I ever get are from chai2 with recipes for dark chocolate brownies and the proper amount of herb to add.

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@questionableasker,

questionableasker wrote:

No pun intended.

I've attempted to give my boyfriend oral sex several times. I'm entirely new to everything, because I've never been physical with anyone else. He hasn't been physical with anyone else either, so he can't really give me any experienced advice. I've never been able to get any reactions out of him, up until a couple of days ago. I used to just lick and use my hand (badly, meaning i don't even know how to use my hand, because I haven't given him a h.j.) But the other day I tried literally sucking, like, creating a vacuum with my mouth. I managed to get some incredible reactions from him. He was squirming and moaning and all that good stuff, but he also kept laughing. I know it was because he was embarrassed. He even told me he was embarrassed and it was causing him to laugh. Then, because he was laughing, I would begin to laugh, and I'd playfully tell him to shut up or I would threaten to bite him (or threaten to just stop in general) so I could concentrate on what I was doing.

After about an ENTIRE HOUR he still hadn't come. The reaction lasted the entire time, and it was very...much like a seizure, except there was no release. Of anything. Not semen..not even tension. He described one part of it as a tickling sensation. He says that he hasn't ever experienced that kind of sensation (meaning the entire sensation of the whole hour, not just the tickling.) He has masturbated before, but not much, and he doesn't "jack off." He rubs the base of the penis. Apparently that causes him to "come" as far as he can tell, but it's always just enough to run down his leg a little, and he's not actually ever sure if he's ever really come.

What the heck. Please help. Am I terrible at everything in that I've never been able to get him to come, or do you think that my playful yelling may have caused him so much stress that he couldn't come? Could he have been having orgasms all those times he masturbated, but... just hadn't ever had an orgasm quite as strong as the one I gave him? Is the tickling sensation normal? Could I maybe just have stopped too soon? I mean, I kept on for like an hour, but with the giggling and the embarrassment/fear, maybe I needed to wait until he got comfortable? Also, do you think that maybe he has been having what is called "retrograde ejaculation" ?

PLEASE help. I'm very confused, and so is he.

Back to the topic...

Have him masturbate for you. Watch what he does and how he does it. Ask him how much pressure he uses and what tempo he uses. When he does finally cum, smell it. It should smell a bit like bleach if he is having an actual orgasm.

Embarrassment can lead to performance anxiety and could effect his ability to reach climax. He could also have a very sensitive head on his penis and that is why he only rubs the base. Your mouth may be causing him to be over sensitive.

Try first to emulate his technique for masturbating first. Once you can make him ejaculate manually, you can then experiment orally. Every person has a different technique for getting off. Learn what makes him finish and move from there. You obviously care enough to put in the effort.

Good luck!

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@McGentrix,

Thank you so much for your answer. That was excellent advice.

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@OmSigDAVID,

Quote:

COMING BACK ?

I'll be back in October for two or three weeks.

I didn't know people would pass other peoples' private messages around either David - because I would never even think of doing something like that. What is this - junior high?
You can rest assured that as far as I know - I'm the only person who ever read your private messages to me. I can only speak to what I've done - and I've never forwarded yours or anyone else's private message to anyone and I never would.
I'm glad to know that you are the same in that. Thank you for not betraying my trust. I appreciate that.

Intrepid - I've told you five or six or seven times now that I never sent you a private message saying what you describe. YES - I did post it on the open forum for about ten minutes one day before I came back and said, 'Yeah - ha ha ha - it's a joke' - just like people had 'joked' with me. Was it silly to do that? Yes. Was it immature to play payback? Yes. Did I admit what I'd done and apologize? Yes. Is the opening poster right in saying that it's ridiculous to keep this **** up? Yes.
If you got a private message or letter from an Aiden - it wasn't sent or written by me.

Ya'll have a nice evening.

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@aidan,

aidan wrote:

I didn't know people would pass other peoples' private messages around either David - because I would never even think of doing something like that. What is this - junior high?
You can rest assured that as far as I know - I'm the only person who ever read your private messages to me. I can only speak to what I've done - and I've never forwarded yours or anyone else's private message to anyone and I never would.
I'm glad to know that you are the same in that. Thank you for not betraying my trust. I appreciate that.

Than why did you do worse to me?

You didn't pass my private message to anyone, you put it out there for everyone to read.

You can't see that? You really don't see what you did? You "passed" my private message to you to everyone, in one fell swoop.

You thank someone for not betraying your trust, but unthinkingly betray somone elses?

You want me to stop talking about it, because time has passed?
Bull, you want me to stop talking about it because it reminds you of how you screwed up.

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@chai2,

I'm sorry Chai - truly - that you don't see my reasoning. I DID NOT KNOW YOU! You wrote me this piece of crap about me and some other poster that was saying the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you were saying to me and the other poster on the public thread.

I thought - WHAT THE HELL?! Who is this person and why is she sending me this **** privately? I had just enough experience with this forum to know that people would automatically look at me as the guilty party. I felt that the only way I could keep everything above board and out in the open was to make what was TRULY happening known.

I didn't engage in a private conversation with you and fool you or lull you into confiding anything to me and then make it public! I read what you wrote and I was like, 'Holy **** - what the hell am I supposed to do with this?'
Maybe I knew instinctively not to trust that anything I said would be treated with privacy or respect, so I wanted people to see what I was being faced with.
And why was I being faced with this ****? Because you didn't agree with me? Because you didn't like me?

I didn't promise you any privacy within which you could feel free to deride me and/or anyone else. I didn't ask you to write to me.
And I'll say it again - if someone tries to bully me in private I don't feel any compunction about calling them out on it in public.

I'd do the same thing tomorrow. And I do think that's less morally reprehensible than pretending to cater to someone's trust and accept and try to engage them in correspondence knowing you were going to ridicule them to other people behind their back.

I told you at the time - I have nothing to say to you in response to this - don't write me again.

You and I are obviously very different in our viewpoints. I can leave it at that.

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I believe that we 'd have a better and more sanitary forum
if so many posters did not find a need to refer to excrement.
Those references, at least for an instant, force a reader to consider this, which is less than optimal.

I 'd rather think about beauty than ugliness n revulsion.

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@aidan,

What does having to KNOW someone have to with with anything?

So, if you don't know someone, it's okay to betray them, when it was explicitly said in a PRIVATE message?

If you were walking around Walmart, and a stranger said "which one of these dolls do you like better? I'm going to buy one for my grandbaby, who's right over there, for her birthday."

Then, the 5 year old grandchild comes running up.

Do you turn to the child and say "Your grandmother is going to buy you one of these dolls for your birthday."

You don't think grandma might be a little upset, and look at you weird?

You live in a strange world Aidan, where the rules are made up and changed as you go along.

Just so you know, if an absolute stranger PM's you, you don't post it for others to see.
I think even a 5 year old could tell you that.

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@OmSigDAVID,

I apologize. That was a little excessive. My sister commented on my dirty mouth and how it's gotten worse lately- I think it's because I'm hanging out with people all day who use this sort of language routinely.

Again, I apologize and I will make a real effort to clean up my language.

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@chai2,

Just so you know Chai - if you ever pm me an abusive e-mail deriding me and another poster while at the same time y expressing eexactly opposite sentiments to that poster on a pulic thread - I will do the same thing again.

I had no relationship or trust to be betrayed with you. You inserted yourself into my life in a very negative way without asking me or considering my feelings. I didn't want you there at all - much less privately.

And no - I would not hurt or harm an innocent party. But you weren't an innocent party. YOU started this ball rolling that day - not me. I'm sorry if I didn't react the way you expected me to.

But I had no obligation to. Maybe you should have thought of that before you decided to write an abusive e-mail to me. Then the whole thing would have been avoided.

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@aidan,

aidan wrote:

Maybe I knew instinctively not to trust that anything I said would be treated with privacy or respect, so I wanted people to see what I was being faced with.

Who is this person and why is she sending me this **** privately? I had just enough experience with this forum to know that people would automatically look at me as the guilty party

Oh wait, this is rich.

you knew not to trust me, that I wouldn't treat you with privacy and respect, so ...........you decided to betray what was told you in a PRIVATE message, obviously negating an trust, privacy or respect.

what's that? beating me to the punch? A punch I didn't even know you thought I was going to throw?

You had enough experience to know people would automatically look at you as the guilty party? How would they know that if they didn't know what was being written to you, as they obviously wouldn't, since it was a PRIVATE message.

You, are a lunatic.

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@aidan,

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Just so you know Chai - if you ever pm me an abusive e-mail deriding me and another poster while at the same time y expressing eexactly opposite sentiments to that poster on a pulic thread - I will do the same thing again

that would be a mistake. What you should have done was to characterize her PM here, state that you were offended and think poorly of her for this action and why, and left it there. If Chai disputed your version of her PM THEN perhaps you would have been justified in posting it and letting everyone decide for themselves. Probably though you would have been better off not though, leaving it at registering offense.

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I can't tell if he's having an orgasm without ejaculation, or if maybe I just really suck at oral.

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