Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

Teen charged as adult in Muncie Central rape
Nov 22, 2010

A 16-year-old boy will be charged as an adult in the rape of a fellow student.

Police say Steven Moore raped a 16-year-old girl in a restroom at Muncie Central High School earlier this month.

A tentative jury trial is set for March 1, 2011 at 9:00 a.m. Bond was set at $20,000. The Delaware County Prosecutor didn't respond to an Eyewitness News request for an interview regarding the decision to charge the teen as an adult.

The girl reported the rape to the school office, but police say the school never called officers. The school also waited more than four hours to make the required call to Child Protective Services.

Police say the 16-year-old suspect admitted to forcing himself on the girl. He says she tried to fight him off during the attack.

Eyewitness News contacted the victim's mother, who declined to comment on the case. Moore's attorney tells Eyewitness News the contact between the students was consensual, not rape.

"This was a consensual interaction between two people that were not in an established relationship," said Jake Dunnuck. "I think there is likely some evidence they knew each other, that there was a mutual liking and a mutual decision to do this."

He can't say the victim would then report it as rape if it wasn't.

"Is it inappropriate? Absolutely. Is it uncommon? Sadly, it's not," Dunnuck said about sex in school.

But Deputy Prosecutor Eric Hoffman says, "All the evidence so far indicates it was not consensual. It was by force, or the threat of force and, in fact, the victim tried to push him off of her."

Hoffman says Moore admitted that to police and told police he knew he caused her pain and "that he had crossed the line."

He denies his client tried to destroy evidence in the case by washing his clothes when he got home. The defense says that wasn't to hide evidence, but that Moore is just a "clean-cut" kid. The prosecutor's office disagrees.

"We have a victim who has been very consistent with what she's told law enforcement and that will help us in the trial of the case," Hoffman said.

The Muncie Community Schools superintendent was out of the office and unavailable for comment Monday, but did speak about the delay in reporting the alleged crime with Eyewitness News last week.

"I don't know if I can speak to the delay, but we are cooperating," said Dr. Eric King.

Muncie Police are also investigating why school officials never reported the alleged attack. Police described school officials as "interfering" and "delaying with the investigation." Police say officials are now cooperating, but are also under investigation for possibly violating state law for failing to report the crime.
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This acquaintance rape occurred in a high school bathroom. The defense attorney claims the sex was consensual, but the young man admitted to police that he forced himself on the girl and she tried to fight him off. That sure doesn't sound consensual, does it?

That allowed the young man to go home, shower and change his clothes, and during that time, the school bathroom in which the rape occurred was also cleaned

you are not so slow that you think corporate media is an unbiased independent source for truth, are you?

And you point being what Firefly as no one had question that sadly real rape does happen now and then?

That's correct. Isnt that what I was saying from another direction ? Or is it you dont have enough people to argue with ?

Sexual Assault: Any unwanted act of a sexual nature that is imposed on another person

A tamer version of that observation is borne out in the economists' work among high schoolers. Unsurprisingly, the majority of high school boys want to have sex (though only 47.6 percent of freshmen boys do). Unsurprisingly, the majority of high school girls do not (though 50.1 percent of senior girls do). Over the course of four years, the power shifts from the freshman girls who don't want to have sex to the senior boys who do.

The conclusion? Though high-school girls don't really want to have sex, many more of them end up doing so in order to "match" with a high-school boy. For them, a relationship at some point becomes more important than purity. Because of that phenomenon, in schools with more boys than girls, the girls hold more cards and have less sex. Where there are more girls, the male preference for sex tends to win out.

The law that I live under requires no words either way.

That is not a law. It is delusion.

(7) "Consent" means that at the time of the act of sexual intercourse or sexual contact there are actual words or conduct indicating freely given agreement to have sexual intercourse or sexual contact

I love Firefly idea that if a man placed any pressure of any kind on a woman for sex he is a rapist meaning that all men are rapists

If we reference, either intentionally or not, the conventional criminal-code definition of rape to describe the phenomenon of "compuls0ry heterosexuality" because coercion is central to both, then we invite the mistaken conclusion that promoting greater enforcement and prosecution of rape crimes, as understood by the state, will end patriarchy.

But this conclusion is not warranted,and not simply because the sex described by the inclusive definition of "rape" previously is not what the state will prosecute,no mater what the definition of rape. It isn't warranted, more fundamentally, because the compulsory conditions that elicit consent to unwanted sex might be more central to obnoxious regimes than the knives and fists employed by rapists to overpower their victims will. Even if it is true, as McKinnon begins the most important book, that 'sexuality is to feminism what work is to Marxism; that which is most ones own and most taken away" 22 then the conflation between rape and consensual sex seems all the more particularly ill advised: Wiping out all theft, through more aggressive use of criminal law, will not fundamentally return sex to women. Economic exploitation of laborers is not the result of the states underinformcement of laws against theft,and likewise sexual exploitation is not the result of the states underenforcment of the laws against rape. By conflating the problem of exploitative and expropriated sexuality with the problem of rape , we encourage not only the conceptual confusion but also strategic misdirection. Much of third wave feminism- the "Take Back the Night" rallies, self defense and anti-rape education initiatives on high school and college campuses- though arguably vital to ensuring women's safety on the street, might be oversold as a means for ensuring women's equality, and an end to their sexual exploitation. We do need to address the conditions, states of mind , and social structures that so overwhelmingly prompt, suggest,or compel women to consent to sex that they do not desire or want: That is the deepest,most vital, and most profoundly historic claim at the heart of McKinnon's reconstruction of radical feminism. That sex, however, is not rape, and we don't come any closer to addressing it by calling it something that it is not

Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?

That woud be an oxymoronic contradiction in terms.

Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?
That woud be an oxymoronic contradiction in terms.

Logic dictates the fourth camp of women who say rape laws are unreasonable in their current form. They are absent for the same reason they were quiet when the libbies were damaging society with their male bashing

There are three camps here....
1) Women demanding to be protected beyond reason...
2) Men saying of course I will protect you...
3) Men saying that level of protection is silly...
Logic dictates the fourth camp of women who say rape laws are unreasonable...

Hey, Can A Woman "Ask To Get Raped"?
That woud be an oxymoronic contradiction in terms.

David by the theory Firefly is working by a woman can beg you
to have sex with her and then claimed later that you had rape her as she was in no condition to consent to sex.

In real life after woman jump into a sleeping man bed and started
sexual activities the man found himself facing a full scale court marshal over the matter.

A general court martial?
What was the judgment of the court martial ?

Well framed, genius.

5) Men who.......just want this to end.